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I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html

I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon, and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive, as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue, white balance, etc?

30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
 
There have been many examples in the latest STF challenge which is located http://www.pbase.com/stfchallenge/challenge4__darkness . You will have to look at the ones for the F707. I use an F707 and have some long exposure pictures here: http://f707.shay.ws/

Shay
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
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--Shay http://f707.shay.ws
 
Nice pictures. No exposure time info though. And I did look at the challenge4 pictures, but they were either of fairly short exposure times or did not give the time, but it did give me an idea of what the camera is capable of; I would like to try it for some night shoots under more extreme conditions.

Does anyone else know what I mean by the cool colors of the Sony? I really notice it in examples of people or bright outdoor shots.
Shay said:
Shay
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
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--

Shay

http://f707.shay.ws
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Here is a sample I did last night just playing around in my front yard. This was shot down my street at about 50% zoom.

20 seconds
F4.0
ISO 100
focal length 25.1



SuperSize version at : http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28846919ba77ee8460138c4950d28dfa/fe1c1da2.jpg.orig.jpg
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
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Hmm, interesting. I did a similar shot up my street the other night with a Canon S300 to show some friends the fog here. Thre is a 1 sec. min. shutter speed only with that camera.
http://www.eplatt.com/foggyTest/

The Sony certainly does have potential. And it managed to capture quite a range of brightnesses with little noise. Check out the short star trails in the upper right in your photo. What are the green glows in the trees - more street lights, or is there an imminent UFO invasion?

I'd like to see some 30 sec. shots under the full moon this Friday (Nov. 30) without city lights interfering.

Thanks.
TurboTed said:
20 seconds
F4.0
ISO 100
focal length 25.1



SuperSize version at :

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28846919ba77ee8460138c4950d28dfa/fe1c1da2.jpg.orig.jpg
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
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Ted,

What is that large green-eyed monster up in the tree?

Looks like lens/filter coating relections from the porch lamps on one of the houses.

Also, in full res, just below and to the right of the bright street lamp there is either a bug flying through or your filter has a scratch! What detail!

Which WB setting did you use here?

Macroman-
TurboTed said:
Here is a sample I did last night just playing around in my front
yard. This was shot down my street at about 50% zoom.

20 seconds
F4.0
ISO 100
focal length 25.1



SuperSize version at :

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28846919ba77ee8460138c4950d28dfa/fe1c1da2.jpg.orig.jpg
Click to expand...
 
Oorick said:
Hmm, interesting. I did a similar shot up my street the other night
with a Canon S300 to show some friends the fog here. Thre is a 1
sec. min. shutter speed only with that camera.
http://www.eplatt.com/foggyTest/
The Sony certainly does have potential. And it managed to capture
quite a range of brightnesses with little noise.
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It did do a decent job. In addition to increasing the time to 30 seconds, I could also open up the aperture to F2.0 to let in even more light. I purposely went with F4.0 to try to get a sharper image.
Oorick said:
Check out the
short star trails in the upper right in your photo.
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Yeah, that still amazes me.
Oorick said:
What are the
green glows in the trees - more street lights, or is there an
imminent UFO invasion?
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I'm not really sure, I need to go outside again tonight to see if there are any lights in those trees. I have a feeling that is happens to be lens flare from a nearby streetlight.
Oorick said:
I'd like to see some 30 sec. shots under the full moon this Friday
(Nov. 30) without city lights interfering.
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I'll see what I can do, not sure where I can go to get away from street lights.
Oorick said:
Thanks.
TurboTed said:
20 seconds
F4.0
ISO 100
focal length 25.1



SuperSize version at :

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28846919ba77ee8460138c4950d28dfa/fe1c1da2.jpg.orig.jpg
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
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Macroman said:
Ted,

What is that large green-eyed monster up in the tree?

Looks like lens/filter coating relections from the porch lamps on
one of the houses.
Click to expand...
Yes, I think you are right (about the porch lamps)
Macro said:
Also, in full res, just below and to the right of the bright street
lamp there is either a bug flying through or your filter has a
scratch! What detail!
Click to expand...
You mean the horizontal light streak? That was an airplane behind the trees. You can see a repeating pattern in the streak which is the flashing lights on the plane.
Macro said:
Which WB setting did you use here?
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I'm pretty sure I used Indoor WB.
Macro said:
Macroman-
TurboTed said:
Here is a sample I did last night just playing around in my front
yard. This was shot down my street at about 50% zoom.

20 seconds
F4.0
ISO 100
focal length 25.1



SuperSize version at :

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28846919ba77ee8460138c4950d28dfa/fe1c1da2.jpg.orig.jpg
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Is this from only the lens coating? Or did you have a filter attached? What kind of filter?

Macroman-
TurboTed said:
Macroman said:
Ted,

What is that large green-eyed monster up in the tree?

Looks like lens/filter coating relections from the porch lamps on
one of the houses.
Click to expand...
Yes, I think you are right (about the porch lamps)
Click to expand...
 
As I write this Ulysses was seen walking in the night with his sack of Coke and Sprite cans and 505 and 707's.

He'll have long exposures of both cans for tomorrow.

Just kidding
Rob
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
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--Take lots of of pictures - Have fun with your cameraRobert
 
Good one...
Robert Holloway said:
He'll have long exposures of both cans for tomorrow.

Just kidding
Rob
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
Click to expand...
--
Take lots of of pictures - Have fun with your camera
Robert
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Macroman said:
Ted,

What is that large green-eyed monster up in the tree?

Looks like lens/filter coating relections from the porch lamps on
one of the houses.
Click to expand...
Ah ha - definitely: I measured the distance between in PhotoShop and it's the same as the porch lights. I wonder how many elements that big long Karl Zeiss lens has.
Macro said:
Also, in full res, just below and to the right of the bright street
lamp there is either a bug flying through or your filter has a
scratch! What detail!
Click to expand...
Looks like it's behind the trees - an airplane perhaps.
Macro said:
Which WB setting did you use here?

Macroman-
TurboTed said:
Here is a sample I did last night just playing around in my front
yard. This was shot down my street at about 50% zoom.

20 seconds
F4.0
ISO 100
focal length 25.1



SuperSize version at :

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28846919ba77ee8460138c4950d28dfa/fe1c1da2.jpg.orig.jpg
Click to expand...
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Did you figure out which house it's coming from? ;)

Surprised to see such strong reflections with just the lens and no filter attached.

Macroman-
Oorick said:
Macroman said:
Ted,

What is that large green-eyed monster up in the tree?

Looks like lens/filter coating relections from the porch lamps on
one of the houses.
Click to expand...
Ah ha - definitely: I measured the distance between in PhotoShop
and it's the same as the porch lights. I wonder how many elements
that big long Karl Zeiss lens has.
Click to expand...
 
Really? I'm not surprised. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if there were more, with that dark background and those bright lights shooting right in to the lens. But what do I know...
Macroman said:
Surprised to see such strong reflections with just the lens and no
filter attached.

Macroman-
Oorick said:
Macroman said:
Ted,

What is that large green-eyed monster up in the tree?

Looks like lens/filter coating relections from the porch lamps on
one of the houses.
Click to expand...
Ah ha - definitely: I measured the distance between in PhotoShop
and it's the same as the porch lights. I wonder how many elements
that big long Karl Zeiss lens has.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Oorick said:
Hmm, interesting. I did a similar shot up my street the other night
with a Canon S300 to show some friends the fog here. Thre is a 1
sec. min. shutter speed only with that camera.
http://www.eplatt.com/foggyTest/
The Sony certainly does have potential. And it managed to capture
quite a range of brightnesses with little noise. Check out the
short star trails in the upper right in your photo. What are the
green glows in the trees - more street lights, or is there an
imminent UFO invasion?

I'd like to see some 30 sec. shots under the full moon this Friday
(Nov. 30) without city lights interfering.
Click to expand...
Check this thread out if you haven't already for a quick 30 sec shot at home last night...

http://www.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=1831319
Oorick said:
Thanks.
TurboTed said:
20 seconds
F4.0
ISO 100
focal length 25.1



SuperSize version at :

http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid27/p28846919ba77ee8460138c4950d28dfa/fe1c1da2.jpg.orig.jpg
Oorick said:
I am considering the Sony F707 after seeing some wonderfuly sharp
pictures of the desert on pbase.com. I am interested in
experimenting with night photography, using moonlight and
supplemental lighing, like in these examples (with film):
http://www.ericplatt.com/art/photog/Night_06_06_01/index.html
I also want to do macro photography and nature photogrphy. However
I like the picture quality and the color reproduction of the Canon,
and the fact that the Nikon CP5000 will have a 5 min. bulb shutter
speed. But the clarity and resolution of the Sony are attractive,
as well as the facilities for night work. One of my concerns
however is the "coolness" of the daytime shots from the 707. I am
referring to their color. Can this be corrected in Photoshop? How
does a TIFF format compare to RAW for after-shot changing of hue,
white balance, etc?
30m seconds might be just barely enough time to do some
supplemental lighting. Does anyone have some examples of long
exposure times from the F707?

Thanks,
Eric
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