Canon 30D or Nikon D100

--I am considering a Canon 30D, with an eye to use 200 telephoto lens to enable well focussed sports day light action shots. A friend has lent me a Nikon D100 to get a feel of digital SLR performance. How far behind is the D100 from Canon 30D in producing sharp sport images? I would value any comment, thanks, Paul

because the Nikons don't perform as well at higher ISOs.
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I think you would be best to compare the Nikon "D200" to the Canon 30D.............not the D100. D100 is not up to par with either the 20D or the 30D. My opinion................

Also, all the info you need to make up your mind is on this site............read, read, read.............LOL

Lenny

Thanks for your suggestion. The problem for me is to discover a good Digital SLR and tele lens that is known for excellent (accurate) AF lock. I suspect that the D200 is overkill for my sports based aims.

you might look for a used 1D mkII.
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situation, mabye not directly comparing the 30D to the D100, becuase i think you are going to find the comparison is very one sided....more towards the 30D

take alook at Phils review of the D100, and compare the high ISO and IQ shots to the 30D, you WILL see a very large difference.

the D100 is new a few generations behind, mabye not for Nikon, but Canon has produced a few cameras inbetween there. i think you would be better of comparing the 30D to the XT for your purposes. you can do a quick search on the forum and it should return you many many results on that topic!

the 30D has a larger buffer and better AI servo focusing (contious focusing for sports), and a higher frame rate than the XT, its just the XT is a heck of a lot cheaper.

i would compare them and see hwat you get, but i think yo would find the 30D is miles ahead of the D100 IMHO.

Canons are alos known for the silky smooth high ISO images, where as you are not going to find the same DR or IQ in the D100 OR D200 for that matter as you will in either of the XT or the 30D.

SO, if you are doing sports in semi low light, the higher ISOs will come in handy.

those are jut a few things to consider, i didn't go into detail, so a search and you will find onts of stuff on both.
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-Machu

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Don't forget the right choise of lens. You need a fast professional tele lens . I say with fixed focus, so it is not too expensive (Canon EF 200mm 2.8L: 800 euro). Shoot in RAW and develop in Canon's Digital Photo Professional and your images will be pinsharp.

Peter

asking which one will be better for sports. The 30D (Current Model) or a 4 year old D100, While the D100 will meet the basic needs you will have to work harder for "That" shot. The Cam900 focus system of the D100 has been significantly upgraded in the later models even the D70 is a big improvement. Given the two choices you asked the answer is pretty straight forward buy the 30D. If you wish to go Nikon the D70 while falling behind the 30D is still ahead of the D100. The D200 is probably the best comparison to the 30D.
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You should compare 30D and D200. The D100 is leaps and bounds behind.

Paul Australia said:

--I am considering a Canon 30D, with an eye to use 200 telephoto
lens to enable well focussed sports day light action shots. A
friend has lent me a Nikon D100 to get a feel of digital SLR
performance. How far behind is the D100 from Canon 30D in
producing sharp sport images? I would value any comment, thanks,
Paul

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If you're shooting sports, the D100's paltry buffer is going to be a major limitation. The D100 can buffer a maximum of 3 frames if you shoot RAW, or 6 frames if you shoot JPEG. And its maximum frame rate is only 3 frames per second. The 30D, on the other hand, shoots at 5fps and can buffer 11 RAW or 30 JPEG frames! 3 RAW vs 11 RAW, or 6 JPEG vs 30 JPEG. That's a huge difference in buffering capacity. With the 30D, even with its faster frame rate, you may never hit the buffer limit because of its much larger buffering capacity. With the D100, you'll be hitting the limit a lot. For high-paced shooting, the 30D wins hands down.

The 30D also has a better sensor. The 30D's 8mp CMOS sensor offers better resolution and sharpness. It also excels at high ISO, for those times when you might want to shoot indoor sports or evening sports.

A former friend of mine had a friend who had a D100 and we tested it in the studio against my 10D. Not even close...the 10D was clearly superior. I can only imagine what the 30D would look like in comparison.
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Have you looked at lenses? I have a 70-200 f2.8 IS, and it's the sharpest lens I've ever used. I haven't used the 200mm f2.8 prime, but I hear it's good.

Glass will make the difference.

Good luck.

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The 30D is by far and away the better camera in ALL aspects. Compare the 30D to the Nikon D200, or better still buy a 1D MkII !!
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Paul Australia said:

--I am considering a Canon 30D, with an eye to use 200 telephoto
lens to enable well focussed sports day light action shots. A
friend has lent me a Nikon D100 to get a feel of digital SLR
performance. How far behind is the D100 from Canon 30D in
producing sharp sport images? I would value any comment, thanks,
Paul

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There are some amazing photos from the four year old D100 posted on this site (search D100 and Africa) but today the best options would probably be the Canon 30D or the Nikon D200.
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I don't know much about Nikons but I can tell you that the 30D is very sharp and is consistant. Shot with a 300L - ISO 1600

although the D100 is a nice camera it is 3+ years old and would be used
no warantee etc etc unless you can get a can't refuse screaming deal
I would go for the 30D or even a 20D before the D100
Plus remember this is your first DSLR choose wisely since once you start
investing in glass the game is set unless you plan on loosing a lot of money
on switching later if your not happy
best I can advise you is choose the brand that has the lenses you want

and go with that brand any body you buy will be outdated way before your good glass will be and I think Canon will serve you better for the
telephoto stuff anyway

Paul Australia said:

--I am considering a Canon 30D, with an eye to use 200 telephoto
lens to enable well focussed sports day light action shots. A
friend has lent me a Nikon D100 to get a feel of digital SLR
performance. How far behind is the D100 from Canon 30D in
producing sharp sport images? I would value any comment, thanks,
Paul

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Given the $1300 you'll spend on a 30D or the $1800 on a 200D, you should also think about the lens or lenses you will be using.

Are you going to use a tripod? If not, then an image stabilized lens is a good idea. Do you want JUST 200mm focal length? Would you prefer a zoom? Canon has an excellent trio of 70-200mm lenses, several 75-300 range lenses, and the versatile 100-400mm.

Thanks to all for useful feedback. Canon 30D seems the possible way to go. Primary reason is to capture sharp running action from sidelines of football, basketball play. Film Minolta 7000i with 70-210 lens produced very good results. The question is now lens - Canon 70-200 or Sigma? Prefer to avoid tripod work. The F2.8 70 -200 appear expensive/heavy, are the F4.5? lenses still an excellent choice? Again thanks.