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Upgrading a D30 is a 10D worth it?

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Hello all,

I have been using a D30 since the D60 came out and decided it may be finally time to upgrade. I found a guy selling a 10D in very good shape for $600. I really trust the opinions on here. What do you guys think? Worth it or should I hold off (possibly a long time) so I can afford a 20 or 30D?

The good thing about the 10D is I can use my battery grip on it and that is the last model it seems to work on.

Also the D30 is still going strong after the shutter replacement. I wonder how many are still out there in service.

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I have had a 10D for 3 years and been very happy with it. it is a very capable camera and moving from D30 to 10D might be a big improvement. So it all depends on 1) whether you have found D30 to be very limiting and 2) how often do you use your battery grip.

Prices of 10D has stabilized around $500-600. 20D can be had for around $800 or above if you have coupons. And 30D is released for $100 less than usual. The good thing about 20D and 30D is that they are fast cameras in terms of read/write, which can be very helpful if you are shooting sports or in RAW. Also better noise performance. These are the two important improvements they have over 10D. 30D also has spot-meter. Furthermore these cameras also give you choice of EF-S lenses.

So my suggestion is get the best camera that you can afford and be happy for many years, instead of upgrading every few years. 10D is a great camera, but you will have to accept slower write speeds (but you will learn to work around them).
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Hey Klint,

I owned a D30. It was a nice camera. Its biggest (and really, only) problem was the AF was just horrid. The 10d is a much better and faster camera - though the AF is not as good as on the 20d and 30d.

If you can squeeze a 20d out of your purse, it is an even better camera than the 10d. Either though will be a huge leap over the D30.

Cheers!

James
Klint Buckner said:
I forgot to mention the biggest gripe I have with the D30 is auto
focus(or lack thereof) . This was improved quite a but with the
10d apparently.
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I also entered the digital arena with the D30 I upgrade to the 10D 2 1/2 years ago and have been very happy with it It is a very good camera I just upgraded to the 30D and am keeping my 10D as a backup I love the 30D its almost as big an inprovement over the 10D as the 10D is over the D30.If you can swing it I say go for the 30D tho you will love the 10D coming from the D30
 
No.

Good as the 10d is, and I have a d60, very similar to your d30 with some improvements, the changes is not really enough. Of course the price is tempting. You do save a lot of money. The 10d for me is liked a souped up 300d. And between the 300d and d60, they are about even. One is good at the other, while the other body is also good in one area w/c the other doesn't have. For example, the 300d has faster AF. But the d60 has 8 buffers and has more accurate AF. The d60 has AI-Servo, but the 300d takes ef-s lenses, has cleaner higher ISO. A 10d is a bit combining the best of the 300d and the d60, minus the ef-s capability. To me, this is not enough improvement, unless I am thinking of only getting a 2nd body as a backup.

But if you plan to keep the next purchase for 3-5 more years and want one good body, get a 20d or better yet the 30d. Well, the 30d may be too much at U$1400, so get a 20d used for around U$900. I know it's U$300 more, but as person like me coming from a d60 and 300d, the improvements in IQ, high ISO noise, AF speed, ease of use, fast fps, etc, is worth paying for. There' s really too many improvements to mention that you will immediately see and notice and that is worth paying an extra U$300.

At the least consider a U$700 350d. That alone will give you improvements in IQ and in other areas that will also surpass the 10d for an extra U$100. You will lose that dial at the back and that may annoy you, or the size is not to your liking as this is a small camera. But other than that, I'd rather pick a 350d than a 10d.

I know we all have our own needs and Bugdets, so maybe cost is an issue for you. But I really implore you to get a 20d and not the 10d. If you are budget constrained, just wait till you get that U$300 balance. Trust me on this one. The 20d is worth it. :)

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and went with the 20D not that long ago....i broke my 20D...so i am back with my 10D...it is a surpurb camera, and i missed it...

however, if i didn't alreaddy have it..i would have gotten either another 20D when i lost mine, or and XT....and had the 30D been out then i would have gotten that over the 20D

it comes down to what you are going tob e shooting, the 10D is built alot stronger, and will withstand alot more...it also has the same general layout of the D30..

if you plan on doing light stuff, and nothing that requires dirt, and you don't mind basically changing systems. the function setting of the XT is lot more menu driven, ad well as you don't have the scrool wheel (that would bothered me SO much)....then get the XT. the XT aslo has a faster bufffer.

if money is a problem XT/10D based on above reasons. and if not then used 20D or new 30D ....basicall the same deal...spot metering and a bigger screen.

very simple really...remeber the XT;s advantages and disadvantages....its SMALL keep that in mind!
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the 10D is WORLDS faster than the D30.

i had a D30 first, then it was just plain to slow.....everything about it is slow

i then went to the 10D...and i was home....it was fast and for the time accruate...well accurate enough...ANYTHING beats the AF of the D30...that was just horid.

and then the 20D was then better again. so did that....high ISO was amazing.

the 10D is much much better...and u will notice a HUGE difference.

just my 2 cents
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How many clicks when the shutter on the D30 went out.
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Well, I've had them all. I can guarantee you the autofocus on your D30, though slow and sometimes hard to get a lock on in dim light is worlds more consistent than with the 10D. Inconsistent focus threads started in these forums with the 10D. The only thing worse than no focus is inaccurate focus. You quite likely will experience more of that with the 10D than you ever though could exist, given your surely good experiences with the D30.
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Thanks for the input. I have been using the D30 since the D60 came out and when I got it the camera was actually really fast to me compared to the p/s camera I upgraded from (sony 707). Since I have had it so long I am used to its limitatons on pretty much everything except the AF. And I really hate handing it to someone else to use because I know they will never get the thing to lock in so they can take a picture.

Basicaly my situation is if I don't go for this cam it will be a long time before I get another chance to upgrade and even adding another $100 is probably going to be a deal breaker so the rebels are probably out.
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the 10D is WORLDS faster than the D30.

i had a D30 first, then it was just plain to slow.....everything
about it is slow

i then went to the 10D...and i was home....it was fast and for the
time accruate...well accurate enough...ANYTHING beats the AF of the
D30...that was just horid.

and then the 20D was then better again. so did that....high ISO was
amazing.

the 10D is much much better...and u will notice a HUGE difference.

just my 2 cents
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Klint Buckner said:
Thanks for the input. I have been using the D30 since the D60
came out and when I got it the camera was actually really fast to
me compared to the p/s camera I upgraded from (sony 707). Since I
have had it so long I am used to its limitatons on pretty much
everything except the AF. And I really hate handing it to someone
else to use because I know they will never get the thing to lock in
so they can take a picture.
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I think you obviously have a D30 with autofocus problems. I seldom had problems with getting a focus lock with either it or my D60. In low light it was often slow, but the focus assist light would come on and I would always get a lock. Honestly if your D30 often gives you focusing problems, I think it is probably having some kind of equipment problems.
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witht the 10D....

if you are strapped for cash, then for the bang for buck the 10D is a great camrea....as i said i use mine all the time for all my work and it is just fabouls

i will not be upgrading unless the 40D is amazing (or whatever is after 30D in 1.6x) or until my 10D dies.....i really do love it

its just....so so SO much better than the D30 and i cannot stress that enough...the AF...u will feel like u are in hyper drive!! seriously....when i had my D30 i completly understand what you mean about the focus lock!!!

either way, you can get a MINT condition one on ebay for around 500...so check that out!! mind you check out the XT's on ebay...u might be able to swing one around there...if you can, hop on that!

if you do low light high ISO work. then the XT is alot cleaner at 1600 and alot better at 800...100-400 they are pretty much the same.
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-Machu

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The Beauty of IR

 
but i would not say it happens on a rather frequent occation.

however i did get it calibrated by Canon after i got it...so mabye that helped?
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-Machu

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The Beauty of IR

 
MachuRoberts said:
witht the 10D....

if you are strapped for cash, then for the bang for buck the 10D is
a great camrea....as i said i use mine all the time for all my work
and it is just fabouls

i will not be upgrading unless the 40D is amazing (or whatever is
after 30D in 1.6x) or until my 10D dies.....i really do love it

its just....so so SO much better than the D30 and i cannot stress
that enough...the AF...u will feel like u are in hyper drive!!
seriously....when i had my D30 i completly understand what you mean
about the focus lock!!!

either way, you can get a MINT condition one on ebay for around
500...so check that out!! mind you check out the XT's on ebay...u
might be able to swing one around there...if you can, hop on that!

if you do low light high ISO work. then the XT is alot cleaner at
1600 and alot better at 800...100-400 they are pretty much the same.
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Hey how does the 10D compare to the D30 in those high ISO areas. To be honest I do lots of high ISO stuff but I have learned to make to D30 do what I need. If it is a big improvment over that then I will be good to go.

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there is a difference

to be sure, just open up Phils review of both of them and take alook at his high ISO charts and shot comparison

i don't remember being able to do ISO 800 in my D30 and getting away with it...

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-Machu

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