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I've had the 30D for about 2 weeks now. Last night was the first time I've had the opportunity to put it too work.
Venue; Kanye West Concert, Tokyo.
Setup; 30D, EF-s 60mm, 430EX.
Atmosphere; dark & smoky, your normal concert atmosphere.

I'm upgrading from a very trust worthy 20D. Last night prior to the concerts start I was walking around taking individual pictures of the audience. While shooting with the 430EX Flash on I noted about 5 lockups with the camera. Actually, I would take a picture then on the third picture or so, the camera would lock up. When I say lockup I mean, I would take the picture then the shutter would lock open and I would have to press the shutter release again to close……Then the camera would go into busy status as though it was writing something to memory........ After reviewing the last picture taken it seems as though it was auto defaulting to Long exposure. …..I'm not sure if I set anything along these lines in the Custom Fn.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Once the concert started I turned off the flash, and no other issues were noted....... I'm a newbie when it comes to external flashes so any suggestions would be appreciated.
 
Exposure bracketing of some sort??

Is it possible to set this on the flash??
susteki said:
I've had the 30D for about 2 weeks now. Last night was the first
time I've had the opportunity to put it too work.
Venue; Kanye West Concert, Tokyo.
Setup; 30D, EF-s 60mm, 430EX.
Atmosphere; dark & smoky, your normal concert atmosphere.

I'm upgrading from a very trust worthy 20D. Last night prior to the
concerts start I was walking around taking individual pictures of
the audience. While shooting with the 430EX Flash on I noted about
5 lockups with the camera. Actually, I would take a picture then on
the third picture or so, the camera would lock up. When I say
lockup I mean, I would take the picture then the shutter would lock
open and I would have to press the shutter release again to
close……Then the camera would go into busy status as though it was
writing something to memory........ After reviewing the last
picture taken it seems as though it was auto defaulting to Long
exposure. …..I'm not sure if I set anything along these lines in
the Custom Fn.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Once the concert started I turned off the flash, and no other
issues were noted....... I'm a newbie when it comes to external
flashes so any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Sir Fallot

There are those that read the small print and learn through knowledge, while others ignore the small print and learn through experience.
 
I tryed to use a very old Canon flash on it and it had a similar problem. It noticed the presence of the flash but overexposed the picture (5 sex exposure). But I think this can be corrected with flash-exp.-compensation .
 
Hey Arnoud Quanjer,

I'll give your post a try tonight. Very strange indeed, now that I think about it, I was getting about 8sec exposure times during those incidents.............

Very embarrasing when you ask some people to pose, and click..........without a clack. :-(
 
What mode were you in??

Don't forget that if you are in Aperture priority the exposure will be set for the ambient light which will cause a long exposure.
susteki said:
I've had the 30D for about 2 weeks now. Last night was the first
time I've had the opportunity to put it too work.
Venue; Kanye West Concert, Tokyo.
Setup; 30D, EF-s 60mm, 430EX.
Atmosphere; dark & smoky, your normal concert atmosphere.

I'm upgrading from a very trust worthy 20D. Last night prior to the
concerts start I was walking around taking individual pictures of
the audience. While shooting with the 430EX Flash on I noted about
5 lockups with the camera. Actually, I would take a picture then on
the third picture or so, the camera would lock up. When I say
lockup I mean, I would take the picture then the shutter would lock
open and I would have to press the shutter release again to
close……Then the camera would go into busy status as though it was
writing something to memory........ After reviewing the last
picture taken it seems as though it was auto defaulting to Long
exposure. …..I'm not sure if I set anything along these lines in
the Custom Fn.

Has anyone else experienced this?

Once the concert started I turned off the flash, and no other
issues were noted....... I'm a newbie when it comes to external
flashes so any suggestions would be appreciated.
Click to expand...
--
Sir Fallot

There are those that read the small print and learn through knowledge, while others ignore the small print and learn through experience.
 
Canon issued a firmware update recently for the 30d. I don't know whether it addressed flash problems, but I would try the update.

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lone star
 
Is the problem on your 30D fixed now or is it still "broken"? If it's still broken then I guess a reset to factory settings will fix it. I've tried to recreate the problem but haven't succeeded yet.

Cheers, Arnoud
 
The correction is only that:

"We learned that some products have problems displaying Simplified Chinese or Traditional Chinese on the LCD monitor when the display language is set to these languages.

This problem can be corrected by overwriting the character data stored in the camera. So we request that users experiencing this problem overwrite the firmware referring to the following information."

--jalle
 
susteki said:
I've had the 30D for about 2 weeks now. Last night was the first
time I've had the opportunity to put it too work.
Venue; Kanye West Concert, Tokyo.
Setup; 30D, EF-s 60mm, 430EX.
Atmosphere; dark & smoky, your normal concert atmosphere.

I'm upgrading from a very trust worthy 20D. Last night prior to the
concerts start I was walking around taking individual pictures of
the audience. While shooting with the 430EX Flash on I noted about
5 lockups with the camera. Actually, I would take a picture then on
the third picture or so, the camera would lock up. When I say
lockup I mean, I would take the picture then the shutter would lock
open and I would have to press the shutter release again to
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It sounds like what the 20D did to me when I first got it, and at around 3:xxAM in the morning of the first wedding's dancing party the 20D did the similar to what you described above.

I can't no longer shoot (it was at the end of party anyway) so I left, and it took me 2 days to figure out I accidently had it on the TIMER ;)
 
Second link is a thread that I got no response from.

Here a picture that I believe the shutter stuck on. It would do this for like 4 or 5 shots then snap out of it. Some were just plain all white & I know they exposed for more than .5 seconds. This one is 1/80s.



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Taken any photographs lately?

 
Sir Fallot said:
What mode were you in??
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Sir Fallot said:
Don't forget that if you are in Aperture priority the exposure will be set
for the ambient light which will cause a long exposure.
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Yes, this happens if CFn-03 is set to the default (Auto) and has to be the dumbest default setting ever. Setting CFn-03 to 1/250 sec (fixed) allows Canon DSLRs to behave as one expects Aperture Priority mode to work with flash. Needless to say, this is the first custom setting change I make for a new Canon DSLR. IMO, the Auto setting should only be used when you need that feature and the camera is on a tripod.
 
GtoJon said:
they never looked at the pictures or exammined any EXIF information &
just wanted me to send it in for testing.
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Maybe they are aware of the problem and know the fix...Otherwise, it's standard troubleshooting wisdom...If there is a possible problem then start with a camera that demonstrated the alleged problem.
 
Derek Hawkins said:
Derek Hawkins said:
What mode were you in??
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Derek Hawkins said:
Don't forget that if you are in Aperture priority the exposure will be set
for the ambient light which will cause a long exposure.
Click to expand...
Yes, this happens if CFn-03 is set to the default (Auto) and has to
be the dumbest default setting ever. Setting CFn-03 to 1/250 sec
(fixed) allows Canon DSLRs to behave as one expects Aperture
Priority mode to work with flash.
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This is not dumb

Use Manual for flash, then you can set the Aperture (as in AV mode) AND choose your shutter speed, which you can set for 1/250 if you wish or any other setting faster or slower to get the desire balance of ambient and flash lighting.
Derek Hawkins said:
Needless to say, this is the
first custom setting change I make for a new Canon DSLR. IMO, the
Auto setting should only be used when you need that feature and the
camera is on a tripod.
Click to expand...
--
Sir Fallot

There are those that read the small print and learn through knowledge, while others ignore the small print and learn through experience.
 
I checked some 30D photos' exifs on pbase and I noticed some of them showed +1/3 and +2/3. I guess it's normal...hopefully.
 
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