Print protection on the Web.....

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don--Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

Hey don .. it's Temple .. I have that code around here somewhere .. what it does, is when someone 'right' clicks on an image in an attempt to download it, it just gives them a message describing it's copyright. I'll email that to ya if you'd like. What I do is make all my images 72 dpi at 475 pixels wide and at a compressed .jpg. I've tried to grab and print my own images and they are so "pixelized" they look terrible. ... TNT

Don Rogers said:

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS
to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images
so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print
it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don
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Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

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Hi
Try displaying your image in strips. Just put them together on your website.

Anyone right clicling will get one little strip. Advantage is you can show off your image as high a resolution as you wish.
Gerry http://www.inkrefill.ca

Temple said:

Don Rogers said:

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS
to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images
so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print
it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don
--
Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

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Your wasting your time… once it’s on screen you just have to use the ‘Print Screen’ key on your PC keyboard to send it to the clipboard. Once there you can do what you like with it. Large 72dpi images like Phil’s print very nicely as you can reduce them in size. Once it’s on the web assume it’s in the public domain… so keep ‘em as small as possible… Chris

Gerry Gray said:

Temple said:

Don Rogers said:

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS
to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images
so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print
it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don
--
Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

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Hello there,

I just want to say that the right click javascript function is not a problem if you know how a computer works.

In fact, your browser downloads the image and saves it in your temporal internet storage folder... and then it's displayed.

So you only have to go to your own windows temporal directories and search it (it will have a strange name "$$%&$&") You can browse with a program like ACDSee and you'll catch it.

Nevetheless, I put that protection on my page... just in case

You can go and cut and paste my html code at:

http://www.terra.es/personal3/ushebty

Hope it helps!

I agree with Chris,
Web is a public domain, once you are on the web consider in public.
Its like having a poster of the film outside the theater, with a notice
"No photography allowed, but you can see with your eyes"

Let me tell you that as a web devloper I have not found any full proof ways to secure images. I personally belive that false sense of security is bigger insecurity.

These are following ways to secure images, but as I said none are full proof.

1. Create your site in layers, & where your images are have a blank layer on top of your images. When clicked or draged it will save a blank image, your image is not saved but its still in the temp folder.

2. Slicing is another method. It works with tables, you make your image in 10 parts and make a table which has 10 rows / columes to insert each part of image. When some one saves he is only saving 1 part of the images.But he can also save other 9 parts to compile image.

3.Flash is another technology where you can emmbed ur images. But there are many utilities to extract the images from flash files.

4. Flash action scripts. In the latest version flash 5 has some very powerful scripting features which can hide ur images, but lately I have learnt there are utlity to read action scripts & find the code / path where the images are & then simply extract.

5. Java scripts is another method, right click is disabled , draging is disabled but the entire page still can be saved. You can disable java in internet options & get the images.

6.java applets, you can emmbed images in java slide show , which is difficult to decrypt without the good knowledge of java decompliers. But thats possible too.

So, here we come to know that nothing is secure, in past I myself have tried 16 different ways of securing images, & then tried to hack the same pages, every time I succeded.

Recently one of my client here showed me his website & in discussion he mentioned that he paid extra for securing his catalog online. Belive me within 3 min he had a shock of his life that on his computer I got the images out & printed from his printer.

I am not preaching on how to hack images, all Iam saying is learn to live in public domain. Best I have found is watermark each image with your name.

Hope this clears the doubts.
Regards
Ranjan

Chris Book said:

Gerry Gray said:

Temple said:

Don Rogers said:

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS
to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images
so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print
it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don
--
Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

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I would just like to totally agree with Ranjan, learn to live with public domain. Resize your images to no more than 600 pixels across and have a link to where folks can order prints.

I would also suggest a little bit of care in how you present your photographs. Whilst most people will accept that they've no right to download a full colour photograph suitable for printing I would suggest if they want a smaller version as wallpaper for their desktop they'll feel rather differently. I have happened before upon a website which sought to enforce copyright on thumbnails from the Arctic circle - thumbnails being used to sell larger prints available by mail order, I found this intensely annoying and was actually discouraged from spending a cent.

Here is a website I quite like that uses photos available for print in an attractive way: http://www.irelandexposed.com/

I have some photos of my own available to look @ http://www.360sphere.com look at the download section

regards Michael

ranjan said:

These are following ways to secure images, but as I said none are
full proof.
1. Create your site in layers, & where your images are have a
blank layer on top of your images. When clicked or draged it will
save a blank image, your image is not saved but its still in the
temp folder.
2. Slicing is another method. It works with tables, you make your
image in 10 parts and make a table which has 10 rows / columes to
insert each part of image. When some one saves he is only saving 1
part of the images.But he can also save other 9 parts to compile
image.
3.Flash is another technology where you can emmbed ur images. But
there are many utilities to extract the images from flash files.
4. Flash action scripts. In the latest version flash 5 has some
very powerful scripting features which can hide ur images, but
lately I have learnt there are utlity to read action scripts & find
the code / path where the images are & then simply extract.
5. Java scripts is another method, right click is disabled ,
draging is disabled but the entire page still can be saved. You can
disable java in internet options & get the images.
6.java applets, you can emmbed images in java slide show , which is
difficult to decrypt without the good knowledge of java
decompliers. But thats possible too.

So, here we come to know that nothing is secure, in past I myself
have tried 16 different ways of securing images, & then tried to
hack the same pages, every time I succeded.
Recently one of my client here showed me his website & in
discussion he mentioned that he paid extra for securing his
catalog online. Belive me within 3 min he had a shock of his life
that on his computer I got the images out & printed from his
printer.
I am not preaching on how to hack images, all Iam saying is learn
to live in public domain. Best I have found is watermark each image
with your name.

Hope this clears the doubts.
Regards
Ranjan

Chris Book said:

Gerry Gray said:

Temple said:

Don Rogers said:

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS
to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images
so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print
it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don
--
Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

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Chris Book said:

Your wasting your time… once it’s on screen you just
have to use the ‘Print Screen’ key on your PC keyboard
to send it to the clipboard. Once there you can do what you like
with it. Large 72dpi images like Phil’s print very nicely as
you can reduce them in size. Once it’s on the web assume
it’s in the public domain… so keep ‘em as small
as possible… Chris

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This comes up every so offen and Chris and Ranjan are absolutly right, if you can see it, you can copy it, script or no script, even chopping it won't work.

Joe

Gerry Gray said:

Hi
Try displaying your image in strips. Just put them together on your
website.
Anyone right clicling will get one little strip. Advantage is you
can show off your image as high a resolution as you wish.

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Both Adobe Image Ready and JASC's Paintshop Pro 7.0 ( http://www.jasc.com )
have utilities built in to slice an image into however many segments you want.

The image is sectioned and the software writes an HTML table with zero padding and zero cell spacing and assigns a segment of the photo to each cell. You paste that section of HTML text into your web page and the image is "sliced"
Works pretty well

Sarbos,

I went to your site to look at your code. Thanks for letting us know about it. Note that although you can't right-click, it is still very easy to copy your photo by dragging it to your desktop.

sarbos said:

Hello there,

I just want to say that the right click javascript function is not
a problem if you know how a computer works.

In fact, your browser downloads the image and saves it in your
temporal internet storage folder... and then it's displayed.

So you only have to go to your own windows temporal directories and
search it (it will have a strange name "$$%&$&") You can browse
with a program like ACDSee and you'll catch it.

Nevetheless, I put that protection on my page... just in case

You can go and cut and paste my html code at:

http://www.terra.es/personal3/ushebty

Hope it helps!

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Mike Flood said:

Gerry Gray said:

Hi
Try displaying your image in strips. Just put them together on your
website.
Anyone right clicling will get one little strip. Advantage is you
can show off your image as high a resolution as you wish.

Click to expand...

Both Adobe Image Ready and JASC's Paintshop Pro 7.0
( http://www.jasc.com )
have utilities built in to slice an image into however many
segments you want.

The image is sectioned and the software writes an HTML table with
zero padding and zero cell spacing and assigns a segment of the
photo to each cell. You paste that section of HTML text into your
web page and the image is "sliced"
Works pretty well

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What's the point? It only gives more load to server. User sees the photo and takes a sceenshot. If you can see it you can grab it.

Pekka

Hi Don,

When my own sister was happy to download 400x300 pixels images of her daughter's wedding and print them out on the office laser of my work I realised I had to do something....

I now use an opaque watermark with ordering information on as a text layer (a ps action places it) as most customers will be happy with the kind of results that she got. I found that she was showing them around and I was very unhappy showing my work at 72 dpi.

If they can see it they can capture it. Visible watermarks, for me, were the only way to go. If somebody wants to download one of my watermarked images and have a go at retouching it out they are welcome to it!

Regards,

Richard

Don Rogers said:

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS
to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images
so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print
it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don
--
Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

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Hi Abe!

Abe said:

Sarbos,

I went to your site to look at your code. Thanks for letting us
know about it. Note that although you can't right-click, it is
still very easy to copy your photo by dragging it to your desktop.

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Oops! you are right! I didn't know it... I should try something else...

Thank you!

will use the watermark idea. I do remember someone saying that there was a code that would put a blank layer on the image, so when sent to the printer it would print blank....
Sounds good.

Thanks again for the responses..
Don

Richard Goulden said:

When my own sister was happy to download 400x300 pixels images of
her daughter's wedding and print them out on the office laser of my
work I realised I had to do something....

I now use an opaque watermark with ordering information on as a
text layer (a ps action places it) as most customers will be happy
with the kind of results that she got. I found that she was showing
them around and I was very unhappy showing my work at 72 dpi.

If they can see it they can capture it. Visible watermarks, for me,
were the only way to go. If somebody wants to download one of my
watermarked images and have a go at retouching it out they are
welcome to it!

Regards,

Richard

Don Rogers said:

Is there a software program that you can use in conjunction with PS
to keep someone from pulling your image off the web and printing it.

I once heard about a code or something you can add to your images
so that when they pulled the image off the web and tried to print
it, the image would come out blank....

Any help here???

Thanks,

Don
--
Don
http://www.drogersphoto.com

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Thats excataly what I spoke about in my earlier thread,
"false sense os security is bigger insecurity"
Hope you find another "full proof" methods.
Ranjan

sarbos said:

Abe said:

Sarbos,

I went to your site to look at your code. Thanks for letting us
know about it. Note that although you can't right-click, it is
still very easy to copy your photo by dragging it to your desktop.

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Oops! you are right! I didn't know it... I should try something
else...

Thank you!

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You are right that it may prevent from printing, but your page can still be saved & then from that saved page images can be printed.
Sorry there is no full proof method.
I once again would advice " lets learn to live in public domain"
Ranjan

Don Rogers said:

will use the watermark idea. I do remember someone saying that
there was a code that would put a blank layer on the image, so when
sent to the printer it would print blank....
Sounds good.

Thanks again for the responses..
Don

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Try this.

Click rightbutton on picture
Keep mouse on picture
press ctrl
press enter to click OK
and download picture.

pressing ctrl and enter need to be done quit speedy. Try it several times if it doesn't work the first time.

It's an old trick.
And IE6 (XP) makes it even easier. It pops up a download/email function/

Piet

sarbos said:

Abe said:

Sarbos,

I went to your site to look at your code. Thanks for letting us
know about it. Note that although you can't right-click, it is
still very easy to copy your photo by dragging it to your desktop.

Click to expand...

Oops! you are right! I didn't know it... I should try something
else...

Thank you!

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heh, cool idea. You don't even have to press ctrl, as long as the mouse button is held down, enter is all then depress mouse.

Piet Gerritsen said:

Click rightbutton on picture
Keep mouse on picture
press ctrl
press enter to click OK
and download picture.

pressing ctrl and enter need to be done quit speedy. Try it several
times if it doesn't work the first time.

It's an old trick.
And IE6 (XP) makes it even easier. It pops up a download/email
function/

Piet

sarbos said:

Abe said:

Sarbos,

I went to your site to look at your code. Thanks for letting us
know about it. Note that although you can't right-click, it is
still very easy to copy your photo by dragging it to your desktop.

Click to expand...

Oops! you are right! I didn't know it... I should try something
else...

Thank you!

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What about PicturesToExe?

ranjan said:

I agree with Chris,
Web is a public domain, once you are on the web consider in public.
Its like having a poster of the film outside the theater, with a
notice
"No photography allowed, but you can see with your eyes"
Let me tell you that as a web devloper I have not found any full
proof ways to secure images. I personally belive that false sense
of security is bigger insecurity.

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Member said:

Regards
Ranjan

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Hello!

RickS said:

What about PicturesToExe?

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uh? what's that? can you show them on the explorer or netscape?

Any link, reference, sample or something?

awaiting your response...

Sarbos

RickS said:

ranjan said:

I agree with Chris,
Web is a public domain, once you are on the web consider in public.
Its like having a poster of the film outside the theater, with a
notice
"No photography allowed, but you can see with your eyes"
Let me tell you that as a web devloper I have not found any full
proof ways to secure images. I personally belive that false sense
of security is bigger insecurity.

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RickS said:

Regards
Ranjan

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