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Is it interesting?
Do you hate the noise? Or does it help describe the milk jug?
What's your opinion?
John Dunn
 
I've never liked noise, I strive for the naturl look, and noise is an artefact to me. Personal preference of course.

One way to see if it enhances or not is to remove the noise, or shoot the pic again with a higher ISO in better light, and then compare them:

Yours:



Denoised:



Since I wasn't working on the original, there's a loss of a lot of detail. Still, I prefer mine.

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Mike
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I like it, not for your every day shots, but every once in a while it's good. I would get rid of the white line though, it is too clean compared to the noise in the photo.

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oVan
 
I say it candy coats the jug.
But anyway, very smooth jug. Could you of taken this at ISO 160 while around it?
 
Monochromatic noise at times can be creatively used, including replication of an old film look. You might experiemnt with other tones, such as sepia, etc. Removing the noise has given this a bit of a creamy look (pun intended, of course).

With 3200 on the R1 shooting RGB the clumpy chromatic noise, unless you turn it to some form of monchromatic noise, will be a lot harder to get creative with because it shouts--"massive digital noise" to an experienced viewer and unless there is a color motif that it can be integrated with in the subject, it is most of the time 'massively' distracting. The monchromatic film look has a much more exalted history to invoke artistically and , thus, it is much easier to work with.

Just a few thoughts from someone who in general finds 3200 on the R1 virtually useless for representative realism, which, obviously, was not what you presented. Keep experimenting. Its fun and you learn a lot from it.
jrdu said:


Is it interesting?
Do you hate the noise? Or does it help describe the milk jug?
What's your opinion?
John Dunn
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jrdu said:
http://fototime.com/%7BB1CFDAFC-42CA-40B6-B5A5-DAA2B92CB1B6%7D/picture.JPG
Is it interesting?
Do you hate the noise? Or does it help describe the milk jug?
What's your opinion?
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I like what you've done with it. It reminds me of the big, soft, pillowy grain in Naomi Stanley's male nudes, a soft and expressive feel.

Regards this specific image, a little more rendering work would be my preference. It comes across with a bit too much in soft, middle-gray tones. A selective application of more contrast in certain areas would help

Godfrey
 
I think the jug is a little modern looking for such a noisy, "heritage listed" type photo. Perhaps an older ornament or crockery piece would be okay.

How are the lower ISOs, John, with the R1?
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Mesh
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Reducing the noise makes for a better photograph. But does it make for a better image?

If I wanted a better photograph of this jug, I would have dialed down the ISO to 160. I had quite a few stops leeway because the shutter speed on this was 1/500 and would still have been able to take a good pic at a lower ISO.
But I wanted the noise.
A noisy jug is what I'm going for.
The white jug on the marble table isn't a very interesting subject for a photo.
I just wondered if it would be interesting at a higher ISO.
You don't like the noise. I appreciate your feedback.
Thanks for your opinion and for taking the time to work on the image.
John Dunn
 
Just to be technical, it's an off white line sampled from an area of the jug. It's interesting to me that the lighter portions of the jug have a lot less noise. Because of that my hope was thatthe line would not be out of character with the rest of the image. My hope was that the line would draw your attention to the white, less noisy part of the image. I hoped that the creamy texture would let your eyes rest.

What I hope and what actually communicates, though, are two different things. I appreciate your feedback and your ideas, Ovan.
John Dunn
 
are noisy when you look at individual frames.

I don't like to match the subject of the image too closely to the grain idea. Then it becomes like a handicraft.

I used to live in rural areas in Canada, receiving TV from distant stations and sometimes images would skip in from Texas under exceptional weather conditions. Those images were always noisy. I not only got used to them, but I loved them.

I like the ISO 3200 because it's noisy, and I'm looking for a way to integrate that noise into my images, a way that others will enjoy.
John Dunn
 
is an artistic one. Deliberately shooting in ISO3200 to get some grain in the image, trying several variations in post, sharing one and listening to the feedback it's all a learning experience for me. I'm thinking that I might try some self-portraits in high ISO. You think this jug was hard to look at, wait until you see my mug, ha ha.
John Dunn
 
Godfrey said:
jrdu said:
http://fototime.com/%7BB1CFDAFC-42CA-40B6-B5A5-DAA2B92CB1B6%7D/picture.JPG
Is it interesting?
Do you hate the noise? Or does it help describe the milk jug?
What's your opinion?
Click to expand...
I like what you've done with it. It reminds me of the big, soft,
pillowy grain in Naomi Stanley's male nudes, a soft and expressive
feel.
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I don't know these. I'll have to have a look.
Godfrey said:
Regards this specific image, a little more rendering work would be
my preference. It comes across with a bit too much in soft,
middle-gray tones. A selective application of more contrast in
certain areas would help
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That's one of the things I've heard about black and white, that the more contrasty images work best. Still forming my own opinion.
Godfrey said:
Godfrey
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Thanks for your comments.
John Dunn
 
in fact I'm sure I wouldn't have gotten enough noise at ISO 1600 to make this shot interesting.

I think you are right that I have to pick an appropriate subject before anyone is going to like my high ISO shots but I'm irritatingly individualistic and it may take me a while.
Thanks for looking Mesh.
John Dunn
 
Please do so tomorrow, as it will be April 1st! If we don't like your grainy self-portrait, you can always pretend it was a joke :-)
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oVan
 
oVan said:
Please do so tomorrow, as it will be April 1st! If we don't like
your grainy self-portrait, you can always pretend it was a joke :-)
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oVan
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I don't usually know it's April Fools' Day until someone tricks me.
John dunn
 
Yes, I'm irritatingly individualistic too. Just look at my name. : - )
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Mesh
Australia
828, G5
5% lighting, 5% composition. 90% location. Get there.
 
Can you try the shot again shooting RAW--to get around the in-camera noise reduction? Then convert the RAW with no NR. That would look a lot more film-like.
 
So the original was shot in RAW but I did some noise reduction in the Adobe Camera RAW work area. So I did what you suggested. See the next post for that.
John Dunn
 
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