R1 or XT, with a twist

there is talk of canon discontinuing EF-S lens mount. If I go with canon system I would like to purchase a lens which can keep up with my body upgrade couple of years from now.
So will the 55-200 canon suffice?

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there is talk of canon discontinuing EF-S lens mount. If I go with
canon system I would like to purchase a lens which can keep up with
my body upgrade couple of years from now.
So will the 55-200 canon suffice?
This is an EF lens that can work just as well on the 1Ds MarkII. :)
 
In your position AND if you're happy with the 24-120mm lens (this compares to a 15-75mm lans on the XT) then I think I would go for the R1. Why?

Reviews do say that the lens on the R1 is very high quality. You get a faster lens than your budget allows with the XT.

The LCD on the R1 enables you to do hip shots or shots from the ground without lying in the dirt. The Canon does have a real optical finder so this issue is very personal.

There is no arguing that the dust issue is real no matter how big or small it is.

If you will not be adding lenses over the next 3 years then I would go for the R1. It gives you more possibilities right here and now given its faster lens and not to forget better service in your country. I've had my XT and lenses for service twice due to back focus with my 85/1.8 and it stille back focuses (my 50/1.8, 60/2.8 macro and 10-22 works perfectly). So my problem was not the camera but the 85/1.8 lens.

Who knows what your situation is in 3 years. Mayby you have no money to buy stuff, maybe you will buy a 5D (probably by then a 7D). You have to buy what is right for you now!

My XT takes fantastic pictures and I would not trade it for the R1 but I do have 4 lenses and I plan to get to 70-300IS and maybe the new 17-55/2.8IS. Here's a few of my latest pics. The last of my son is ISO 800 the two first ISO 200, all handheld.

Good luck on your decision making and I'm sure whatever you choose you will have a great system for taking photos.





 
Had the R1 been in existence when I bought my XT, it is clear I would have chosen it for the following reasons:

1. Dust will be an issue with the XT even if you don't change lenses. Go figure, but believe me.

2. Dynamic range is much better in the R1. The French magazine Chasseur d'images has recently conducted a test of 10,000 pics, most of them being burned in bright sunlight. It is reported that a photographer returning from Africa with 4,000 shots couldn't use them because of overexposure in bright areas, mostly skies.

3. To get lens quality equal to that of the R1, you'd have to spend thousands with the Canon system.

4. The XT is faster, no doubt, so for sports, it wins over the R1.

5. The electronic viewfinder of the R1 stinks, but then there's the LCD screen to compensate, which may even be an advantage over the XT.

So, until Canon designs an effective anti-dust system and corrects the issue of dynamic range in the XT, I'd go for the R1. Its lens also covers a very usable range, and it has adapters for tele and macro.
 
1. Dust will be an issue with the XT even if you don't change
lenses. Go figure, but believe me.
Do people know how easy it is to deal with this?! I'm kinda dumbfounded by this "issue".
2. Dynamic range is much better in the R1. The French magazine
Chasseur d'images has recently conducted a test of 10,000 pics,
most of them being burned in bright sunlight. It is reported that a
photographer returning from Africa with 4,000 shots couldn't use
them because of overexposure in bright areas, mostly skies.
DR isn't the issue here. STUPIDTY and overexpsoure is! My god, some person burns thousands of dollars for a trip to Africa and doesn't check his exposure? Did they know there's a histogram they can check after every single shot if they wanted??? Every metering system has its quirks in sunlight or darkness or other types of lighting. You use your knowledge of your camera and experience to get a good shot, not rely on some chip to do it for you. Many SLRs are known to require some small exposure comp depending on the conditions. I an flabbergasted at comments like these! USER ERROR!!! And DR has shown to be just about the same for ALL these sensors.
3. To get lens quality equal to that of the R1, you'd have to spend
thousands with the Canon system.
It does indeed seem to be a great lens and it's part of a great reason to get the R1 if it's for you. But don't let misconceptions about the other options sway you.
4. The XT is faster, no doubt, so for sports, it wins over the R1.
Speed is certainly not just for sports. A fast and accurate AF system with a deep buffer frees ones up for any kind of shooting. If you're sitting up at early dawn waiting for those 5 minutes of the Venus Belt glow, I trust you'll want to get in more than 7 shots and I trust you're prefer to have them in focus. Ditto for even the most mundane portraiture of some squirmy kid or all those critical bridal shots.
5. The electronic viewfinder of the R1 stinks, but then there's the
LCD screen to compensate, which may even be an advantage over the
XT.
The EVF stinks so good thing you have an LCD to compensate?! LOL! I truly do love the idea of the R1's LCD - it'd be GREAT to get at all those angles and even waist-level shooting. But one doesn't compensate for the other - they both stink compared to an optical viewfinder IMHO.
So, until Canon designs an effective anti-dust system and corrects
the issue of dynamic range in the XT, I'd go for the R1. Its lens
also covers a very usable range, and it has adapters for tele and
macro.
All these are true...except this ludicrous misunderstanding about DR...and thus the R1 will make a nice choice for many people. Just choose based on accurate facts.
 
1. Dust will be an issue with the XT even if you don't change
lenses. Go figure, but believe me.
Do people know how easy it is to deal with this?! I'm kinda
dumbfounded by this "issue".
Same here. I am scared too, but then most people tell me its not that much of an issue, and is visible only at very small apertures. So cleaning is needed once every 3-4 months.
2. Dynamic range is much better in the R1. The French magazine
Chasseur d'images has recently conducted a test of 10,000 pics,
most of them being burned in bright sunlight. It is reported that a
photographer returning from Africa with 4,000 shots couldn't use
them because of overexposure in bright areas, mostly skies.
DR isn't the issue here. STUPIDTY and overexpsoure is! My god, some
person burns thousands of dollars for a trip to Africa and doesn't
check his exposure? Did they know there's a histogram they can
check after every single shot if they wanted??? Every metering
system has its quirks in sunlight or darkness or other types of
lighting. You use your knowledge of your camera and experience to
get a good shot, not rely on some chip to do it for you. Many SLRs
are known to require some small exposure comp depending on the
conditions. I an flabbergasted at comments like these! USER
ERROR!!! And DR has shown to be just about the same for ALL these
sensors.
Agree too. Most tests say XT has a larger dynamic range. R1 has the ACGS but it does not match to dslrs. If we talk just dynamic range actually nikon is the winner with XT coming a close second
3. To get lens quality equal to that of the R1, you'd have to spend
thousands with the Canon system.
It does indeed seem to be a great lens and it's part of a great
reason to get the R1 if it's for you. But don't let misconceptions
about the other options sway you.
Yes the lenst is awesome. A friend as a tamron 75-300. This is a budget lens which I plan to get. He says that compared to R1, the kit and the tamron seem like playthings. Kudos to sony for such a lens. If I buy the R1 this will be the winning thing, nothing else
4. The XT is faster, no doubt, so for sports, it wins over the R1.
Speed is certainly not just for sports. A fast and accurate AF
system with a deep buffer frees ones up for any kind of shooting.
If you're sitting up at early dawn waiting for those 5 minutes of
the Venus Belt glow, I trust you'll want to get in more than 7
shots and I trust you're prefer to have them in focus. Ditto for
even the most mundane portraiture of some squirmy kid or all those
critical bridal shots.
R1 has slow indoor focus. Accurate but slow in low light. If only they had retained the laser of F828
5. The electronic viewfinder of the R1 stinks, but then there's the
LCD screen to compensate, which may even be an advantage over the
XT.
The EVF stinks so good thing you have an LCD to compensate?! LOL! I
truly do love the idea of the R1's LCD - it'd be GREAT to get at
all those angles and even waist-level shooting. But one doesn't
compensate for the other - they both stink compared to an optical
viewfinder IMHO.
All EVFs stink for low light photography. I can get great low light shots with the R1. 2 min exposure at F 2.8 will yield me brilliant star lit landscapes. But the problem will be focus. Manual focus will have to be hit and try when you cant see what you are shooting. I just want to know one thing. Does manual focus show distance in XT the same way in R1?
So, until Canon designs an effective anti-dust system and corrects
the issue of dynamic range in the XT, I'd go for the R1. Its lens
also covers a very usable range, and it has adapters for tele and
macro.
All these are true...except this ludicrous misunderstanding about
DR...and thus the R1 will make a nice choice for many people. Just
choose based on accurate facts.
Yes canon needs an anti dust system. I hope couple of years or 3 years from now when I upgrade the body, I will have an anti dust canon
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