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Ooops .... what a nice looking thing! It looks classic and it even has a shutter dial. Kudos Panasonic!

Soooooo ... hmmmm ... is 4/3 going to take off now? I mean am I in the wrong boat? :)

Roland
 
Roland Karlsson said:
Ooops .... what a nice looking thing! It looks classic and it even
has a shutter dial. Kudos Panasonic!
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I 1000% completely agree. The L-1 physically looks to be absolutely fantastic - a DSLR inside a Leica M-looking body. If it handles well, hopefully somewhat like a real M - I just might consider the Lumix line instead.
Roland Karlsson said:
Soooooo ... hmmmm ... is 4/3 going to take off now? I mean am I in
the wrong boat? :)
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I've been waiting for an Oly "E-2" for a while, under the personal expecation that a E-1 metal chassis with a new sensor - hopefully CMOS - and better/faster processing would score a knockout hit.

I have a lot of hope for the 4-Thirds format for the future. I hope it pans out.
 
If they can come up with a scheme to do away with the flipping mirror and have very fast shutter response, a few compact prime lenses, a compact optical viewfinder attached to the hot shoe... It will be so cool.

Mapleaf
Roland Karlsson said:
Ooops .... what a nice looking thing! It looks classic and it even
has a shutter dial. Kudos Panasonic!

Soooooo ... hmmmm ... is 4/3 going to take off now? I mean am I in
the wrong boat? :)

Roland
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mapleaf said:
If they can come up with a scheme to do away with the flipping
mirror and have very fast shutter response, a few compact prime
lenses, a compact optical viewfinder attached to the hot shoe... It
will be so cool.

Mapleaf
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--Cool isn't the word! More like revolutionary. The thing that baffles me is how are they flipping a mirror around in there? There's no top prism protrusion, and the camera looks too small to have Oly's horizontal mechanism. The mystery grows? A beautiful machine!

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the price isn't to over the top and with a couple of primes or the Sigma 30 f1.4 or the olympus 35 f3.5 it looks very promising.
Roger J.
 
Deecy said:
mapleaf said:
If they can come up with a scheme to do away with the flipping
mirror and have very fast shutter response, a few compact prime
lenses, a compact optical viewfinder attached to the hot shoe... It
will be so cool.

Mapleaf
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--Cool isn't the word! More like revolutionary. The thing that
baffles me is how are they flipping a mirror around in there?
There's no top prism protrusion, and the camera looks too small to
have Oly's horizontal mechanism. The mystery grows? A beautiful
machine!
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The new Panasonic uses the same porro finder first seen in the Olympus E-300 (of course, it was used on film cameras too), and it uses the same Live MOS sensor seen in the Oly E-330, so the DMC L1 will have both an optical viewfinder and a live preview mode (but since it lacks a second sensor like in the E-330 it won't have optical viewfinder and live preview at the same time something the E-330 offers).

So yes, press a buttom and the mirror will flip to let you have a live preview trough the sensor but you lose the optical viewfinder and must use the back LCD (fixed unlike the E-330's LCD).

Not so revolutionary, IMHO revolutionary is the E-330 but it lacks the Leica controls, feel and of course the name... Anyway, a lovely camera that I wouldn't mind to have (lens included!) and a good day for the 4/3 system...

Regards.
 
and probably very expensive too!
 
Since the 7D...

Absolutely stunning... knob and dial interface, image stabalized...

I had never really paid any attention to panasonic in the Digital Photography field... I'm going to have to start watching them a lot closer.

-Scott

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MisterBG said:
and probably very expensive too!
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The Panasonic thingies have not really been all that expensive. And the Leica lenses for the Nikon mount also are of reasonable price. So ... it might not be all that expensive. But we shall wait and see.

So - you think it is ugly. Yes - opinions regarding taste varies. I do find it beautiful. And even if I did not - I have a hard time understanding what looks ugly?

Roland
 
Roland Karlsson said:
Ooops .... what a nice looking thing! It looks classic and it even
has a shutter dial. Kudos Panasonic!
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I agree it looks nice, but...

There's a reason for the classic position of the shutter dial on top and aperture on the lens barrel, and it isn't ergonomics. These positions were mandated by direct mechanical linkage between the dial/ring and the thing it is controlling.

But with electronic linkage you can put the controls anywhere, including where they are most easily accessed. See the 2-dial control layout of many DSLRs, including the Oly E1.

Panasonic/Leica chose fashion over function.

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Seen in a fortune cookie:
Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed
 
mapleaf said:
a compact optical viewfinder attached to the hot shoe... It
will be so cool.
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??HUH??
Have you ever used such a thing????

Believe me, either good old SLR-viewing or live LCD-viewing is 10x better than a distorting, non-zooming, parallax-prone, un-exact, non-focusing, information-lacking, hot-shoe viewfinder. I can't believe anyone would actually PREFER that over a normal SLR viewfinder...WHY???

Lourens
 
nickleback said:
Panasonic/Leica chose fashion over function.
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Well, maybe, but I prefer to think they have been listening to guys like me.

The controls CAN go anywhere, but most of them haven't been going to the most ergonomic places, just the most convenient ones for manufacturing/design purposes. Often times, they're just buried in menus.

On cameras of a certain size, the traditional location of camera controls work rather well from a manufacturing POV and millions of photographers are comfortable with their locations. This is a camera I will be following closely and in 6 months or so, I may buy one if it lives up to its early promise.

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Some see the cup as half empty, others see the cup as half full. Personally, I see the cup being knocked over.
 
why there is no eyepiece shutter. :)

Aneyway, it still looks like very compact and thing body. Reminds me a lot of the Voigtlander Bessa R. Looks very promising. :)

No I can only hope the image quality is as good as it looks. Imagine this beauty with some of the old OM zuiko lenses! Better than the Epson RD-1 (which i still hope to be getting a successor.)

But then again: the price tag on the LC1 was 1499 euro's originally. It still sells for 999 now. I can only imagine this camera to be around the 2000 euros. Or maybe even more. Defenitely not a cheap camera.

I also heard that the retail price of the E330 is going to be around 1200 euro's here. If that's going to be true, it's way too expensive. But that's another story. ;)
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'Art is a collaboration between God and the artist, and the less the artist does the better' - Andre Gide
 
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