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Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
Thanks, Bruce. I was looking at Wiziwig last night, but the order form was so confusing -- I couldn't figure out what I actually needed to buy. Now I get it, all those choices were additions to the base software. So I can just order the target and use the software I downloaded from their site.I have had very good luck with Wiziwig from PraxiSoft. The
software is free, but the necessary reflective target is $79.00.
One thing you should be aware of is that these types of packages
will provide you with decent and consistent printer output across
various media. It doesn't guarantee that what you see on your
monitor approaches what you get on the print. For that you really
need a monitor calibration hardware device & software that is
capable of generating a decent ICC monitor profile.
Tony
Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
Thanks, Bruce. I was looking at Wiziwig last night, but the order
form was so confusing -- I couldn't figure out what I actually
needed to buy.
...Jimmy
One thing you should be aware of is that these types of packages
will provide you with decent and consistent printer output across
various media. It doesn't guarantee that what you see on your
monitor approaches what you get on the print. For that you really
need a monitor calibration hardware device & software that is
capable of generating a decent ICC monitor profile.
Tony
Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
Reading this and your comments on the other thread I'm not sure
what you have and what you don't have. Let me try and briefly
explain...
To get a good match between screen and print you need two things, a
good Monitor ICC profile and a good printer ICC profile for the
ink/paper combination you use.
When you load your image into PS you say it is untagged. This is
bad news since Photoshop likes to know what colourspace it is
working in. Assign a colourspace to the image data using
Image-> Mode-> Asisgn profile. Let's say you assign it the Adobe RGB
profile as a working space. This now gets the image into a now
state for colour management.
Now what do see on the monitor? Are the colours reasonable? If yes
then great. They won't actually print as well because the colour
gamut of your printer cannot match that of the monitor. When the
data is sent to the printer the colours will be slightly compressed
into the smaller printer gamut. Want to see what it will look like
on screen? That's where the soft proofing of PS6 comes in. Go to
View-> Proof Seup-> Custom, and for the profile choose your printer
ICC profile. Once you've done that you can toggle between the image
as shown in the native Adobe RGB colourspace and the printer soft
proof by toggling the view using CTRL-Y.
You really only want to preview your image using the printer
colorspace and not actually edit in that colourspace since you
would otherwise be working in a colourspace that has rather a small
gamut. This is the beauty of Photoshop's soft-proofing features; if
you switch to another paper or output device you simply load up the
soft proof profile for that output device to see how it would look
there.
Now to the actual printing...
When you print you need to first set up the output colour
management in PS using Print-> Options. Make sure the Show More
Options checkbox is selected and that the Colour management
dropdown box is selected.
The document source space is the one you assigned above, in this
case Adobe RGB. The Print Space profile is the Printer profile you
chose earlier for your soft proofing options.
Go ahead and make a print. It should reasonably match the soft
proof you saw on screen. If it didn't then there is more than
likely something wrong either with the actual output printer
profile or the soft-proofing part of the printer profile (there are
two lookup tables which are different - one for each - I'm not sure
if wiziwig creates both properly or even differentiates between the
two).
Ideally you want your digital camera to assign a profile to the
image data for PS so it has a known starting point - that is quite
important in a good colour management workflow. If it can't do that
and you only get untagged files, your first action when loading
them into PS should be to assign a profile to them (if PS doesn't
do that automatically).
Hope this helps,
Tony
...Jimmy
One thing you should be aware of is that these types of packages
will provide you with decent and consistent printer output across
various media. It doesn't guarantee that what you see on your
monitor approaches what you get on the print. For that you really
need a monitor calibration hardware device & software that is
capable of generating a decent ICC monitor profile.
Tony
Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
I have the same problem Jimmy has. Although I followed Ian Lyons' instructions to a "t" on setting up monitor and printer profiles, the image colors on my monitor are quite different from the PS6 soft proof or the Epson printer hard proof. How do I get the printer to print what I see on my monitor? BTW, thanks Tony for all the information you've posted. It's sure helped me a lot.Thanks for all the info Tony... I guess where I am messing up is
that I'm not loading a profile for my Untagged Nikon 995 Images. I
will try this and see what my results are. When I soft proof the
photos using my created profile, the soft proof does match what the
printer is printing, but the soft proof shifts all of my blues to a
purplish color. Thanks again, and I will let you know what my
results are.
...Jimmy
Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
What's the with your 1280 ?
Ok, I'm beginning to realize that the only way I'l ever make peace
with the 1280 is to buy a color profile/management sytem. I dread
asking this, but can anyone recommend a windows color profile
system for under $100? Obviously, I'm not looking for perfection
here, just something that will help me adjust to Epson's constant
change of paper and ink formulations.
Thanks,
Garrett
After spending the entire morning playing with color management options , printing out test prints, and using up a lot of ink, I've reached the point where I'm satisfied that the prints I'm getting are close to what I'm seeing on the monitor! My setup is that my monitor is profiled using Adobe Gamma, I'm using Adobe RGB colorspace for my images, and - here's the difference - I reset my printer device settings to "no color adjustment"! However, the soft proofs are still way off even though I'm using the correct printer/paper profile. But, since my prints are fine, I'm going to ignore the soft proofs.Have you tried profiling your monitor using Adobe Gamma (the
control panel)? If you're printer is profiled, and you're working
with images in a colorspace like Adobe RGB, you should be able to
match your print to your monitor (assuming you're viewing your
print in the same color temperature of light).
Paul
