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I'm working on it! Just trying not to crash head first at while learning :^)
  • Ken
Stephen Livick said:
Then learn how to use the Formula 1 automobile and stop complaining
about it. A good worker never blames their tools.

Nothing is ever perfect... Nothing... so get over it and learn
work with what you have. Or go back to the cameras that are
actually meant for the hobbiest.

Stephen
Ken Reneris said:
But the only thing being sold in this years line up are Hondas,
Toyotas or the Formula 1. Without a nice Porsche, or even a BMW to
buy, all us people who want more then a Honda end up getting the
only thing left... a Formula 1.
  • Ken
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John M. Poster said:
Iva Toothache wrote:

I decided to be rude? Any rude comment of mine, my friend,
you'd better read in context. I am only rude when someone is
rude to me.

Any questions?
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This thread has degenerated into a childish shouting match with nothing further to offer. Iva, you made your point about 80 posts ago. You don't like the weight of the D1x, Fine! Give it a rest.
 
Ken Reneris said:
1D battery would be: 59oz - 2.8lb = 14.2oz
D1X battery would be: 42.3oz - 2.5lb = 2.3oz

From dpreview info on the D1x I found. 1200g - with battery. 1.1kg
without. Hence:
1200g - 1.1kg = 3.5oz

which is still does not seem right to me. I don't have a scale,
but I suspect the weight of the d1x battery is being
mis-represented. In any case, we all know the D1x will still be
lighter (grin).
  • Ken
Bill Dewey said:
Hans Giersberg said:
Iva Toothache said:
D1X is too heavy. Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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Good point. Finding a portable camera bag for this thing is really a challenge.

Lowepro makes one top-loader to fit this thing, and the bag is huge.
WSLam said:
ws
RobertL said:
If you take a look at the history of Nikon 35mm cameras: F, F2, F3,
F4 and F5. Each new model has gotten lighter and more ergonomic,
the D1 series cameras are lighter then its film counterparts. I
think some people are missing the point that theses cameras are
designed to be used on a daily basis and ruggedness is absolutely
essential. Sure you could make the D1 lighter but to do that and
keep its ruggedness, it would probably cost twice as much!

Take care,
rob
WSLam said:
ws
Iva Toothache said:
D1X is too heavy. Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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Iva Toothache said:
Good point. Finding a portable camera bag for this thing is really
a challenge.

Lowepro makes one top-loader to fit this thing, and the bag is huge.
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Yes, but nothing beats a small UHaul truck to carry your D1x and lenses ; )

Jim K
John M. Poster said:
WSLam said:
ws
RobertL said:
If you take a look at the history of Nikon 35mm cameras: F, F2, F3,
F4 and F5. Each new model has gotten lighter and more ergonomic,
the D1 series cameras are lighter then its film counterparts. I
think some people are missing the point that theses cameras are
designed to be used on a daily basis and ruggedness is absolutely
essential. Sure you could make the D1 lighter but to do that and
keep its ruggedness, it would probably cost twice as much!

Take care,
rob
WSLam said:
ws
Iva Toothache said:
D1X is too heavy. Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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BJ Green said:
I have never seen a camera which "auto rotates" and process my
images individually in Photoshop, so this is a non issue in my
personal workflow.
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The Kodak DC-260 series does this. They've built in a sensor which detects which side of the camera is towards the ground and the camera rotate the pictures accordingly as they are stored on the card.

If working in JPG, the software ACDSee includes a lossless JPG transform that rotates one or selected images without introducing additional JPG artifacts.
 
The S&F Specialist 80 and 85AW and the TopLoader Pro Zoom AW are all big enough for the D1x.

ws
Iva Toothache said:
Lowepro makes one top-loader to fit this thing, and the bag is huge.
WSLam said:
ws
RobertL said:
If you take a look at the history of Nikon 35mm cameras: F, F2, F3,
F4 and F5. Each new model has gotten lighter and more ergonomic,
the D1 series cameras are lighter then its film counterparts. I
think some people are missing the point that theses cameras are
designed to be used on a daily basis and ruggedness is absolutely
essential. Sure you could make the D1 lighter but to do that and
keep its ruggedness, it would probably cost twice as much!

Take care,
rob
WSLam said:
ws
Iva Toothache said:
D1X is too heavy. Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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Haha, no wonder I read there's a shortage of uHaul truck (in california at least)

ws
Jim K said:
Iva Toothache said:
Good point. Finding a portable camera bag for this thing is really
a challenge.

Lowepro makes one top-loader to fit this thing, and the bag is huge.
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Yes, but nothing beats a small UHaul truck to carry your D1x and
lenses ; )

Jim K
Jim K53618 said:
WSLam said:
ws
RobertL said:
If you take a look at the history of Nikon 35mm cameras: F, F2, F3,
F4 and F5. Each new model has gotten lighter and more ergonomic,
the D1 series cameras are lighter then its film counterparts. I
think some people are missing the point that theses cameras are
designed to be used on a daily basis and ruggedness is absolutely
essential. Sure you could make the D1 lighter but to do that and
keep its ruggedness, it would probably cost twice as much!

Take care,
rob
WSLam said:
ws
Iva Toothache said:
D1X is too heavy. Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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As well as your phenomenal photographs and the marvelous information you pass along both here and via the Galbraith site. Even if you folks across the pond can't spell "humour" correctly :-).
Carol Steele said:
Bill Dewey said:
I guess this proves that simple registration doesn't weed them all
out, eh? But then, reading the Carol Steele/Ger Bee/Muscle
Stimulator thread above makes it worthwhile :-).
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Glad you enjoyed my awful sense of humour Bill :))
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Jim K said:
........ Yes, but nothing beats a small UHaul truck to carry your D1x and
lenses ; )
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I just hope those things have power steering, otherwise the driving is just too HEAVY, then where would Iva be??
 
Is rotation of a TIF image lossless? For example, when rotated in PS6 is there an image degradation ?

Thanks.
JKJ said:
BJ Green said:
I have never seen a camera which "auto rotates" and process my
images individually in Photoshop, so this is a non issue in my
personal workflow.
Click to expand...
The Kodak DC-260 series does this. They've built in a sensor which
detects which side of the camera is towards the ground and the
camera rotate the pictures accordingly as they are stored on the
card.

If working in JPG, the software ACDSee includes a lossless JPG
transform that rotates one or selected images without introducing
additional JPG artifacts.
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Yes, I have the toploader pro. I find it quite uncomfortable, tho (strap?).

I can take all the "Iva is a wimp" jokes. They're funny.

But seriously, I proudly showed my D1X to a friend the other day, and she held it, and the first thing she said was: "Wow, too heavy. I wouldn't want to hike with this thing."
Iva Toothache said:
D1X is too heavy. Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
Click to expand...
 
Nicholas Androulidakis said:
Is rotation of a TIF image lossless? For example, when rotated in
PS6 is there an image degradation ?
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Since TIF is a lossless compression format (unlike JPG), opening, rotating, and resaving a compressed TIF will not degrade the image.

If you open a JPG in Photoshop, rotate, then save, Photoshop must recompress which introduces new artifacts. The lossless transform in ACDSee apparently avoids further degrading a JPG by dealing directly with the numerical data in the file instead of going through the JPG decompress/recompress algorithms.

John K. Jordan
 
John M. Poster said:
D1X is too heavy.
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Frankly, I think the camera handles very well. I haven't used a lightweight camera in the past 25 years, so the D1-series doesn't seem overweight to me. In that time frame, I've used Minolta XK-Motor bodies (now that is a heavy bugger), F4's, F5's, and now D1's. Should I mention the RB67, 4x5, 8x10, etc.?

The nose/LCD issue doesn't pertain to me since I'm a left-eyed shooter. My cheek does contact the LCD, but I use a Hoodman cover and there is no longer an issue with grease, etc.

If I have an ergonomic complaint, it is the tendency of my hand to contact the vertical shutter-release button when single-hand-holding the camera with heavy lenses in a horizontal orientation. Sometimes the applied pressure to the vertical button by the palm of my hand interferes with operation in horizontal mode. If the button is slightly depressed, the camera gives precedence to it. I could lock that button, of course.

Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
John M. Poster said:
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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Ah yes, the vertical release! Strange thing is it doesn't happen as often on the F5, the vertical release button on the D1x seems to be a lot more sensitive.

ws
Bob Davis said:
Member said:
D1X is too heavy.
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Frankly, I think the camera handles very well. I haven't used a
lightweight camera in the past 25 years, so the D1-series doesn't
seem overweight to me. In that time frame, I've used Minolta
XK-Motor bodies (now that is a heavy bugger), F4's, F5's, and now
D1's. Should I mention the RB67, 4x5, 8x10, etc.?

The nose/LCD issue doesn't pertain to me since I'm a left-eyed
shooter. My cheek does contact the LCD, but I use a Hoodman cover
and there is no longer an issue with grease, etc.

If I have an ergonomic complaint, it is the tendency of my hand to
contact the vertical shutter-release button when
single-hand-holding the camera with heavy lenses in a horizontal
orientation. Sometimes the applied pressure to the vertical button
by the palm of my hand interferes with operation in horizontal
mode. If the button is slightly depressed, the camera gives
precedence to it. I could lock that button, of course.

Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
Member said:
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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Compaired to the 620 or 760. The D1x is a lightweight.
Iva Toothache said:
Funny. I happen to be a weight lifter and would wager that I could
bench more than you. That aside, though, I find the camera is too
heavy for long-term handheld use.

As to ergonomics, I don't care whether SLRs have been made this way
for five decades or five centuries; it can be done better. OLY's
e-10 is done right, e.g. I understand the new Canon 1D handles
better, is lighter. So you folks who say "it's always been this
way" (a la "The Lottery") don't provide a convincing argument, to
me at least.

Kevin Wenker wrote:
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99...
Iva Toothache said:
D1X is too heavy. Damn fine camera, but it's too damn heavy. I have
found no carrying configuration that is comfortable. While I'm
venting, let me add this: Nikon needs to redesign this camera. It's
clunky. I bet we'll look back on this thing two years from now and
won't want to touch it with a ten foot poll, once more ergonomic
models are the norm.

I don't know about you all, but I'm TIRED of squishing my nose up
against the LCD screen. Yuck!

Also, does anyone like having to rotate portrait shots manually via
software? I do NOT. 5k camera, and Nikon can't auto rotate, or
offer an option to?

Bleck!
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