what is faster than the Canon EOS 1D Mark II N ?

Hey all,

I just had a real simple question. I am looking to upgrade and probably will get a Canon EOS 1D Mark II N . I will be shooting weddings, sports and portraits..

I know that the Canon EOS 1D Mark II N is lightning fast at 8.5 fps but that is not the fastest is it?

What DSLR shoots faster than the Canon EOS 1D Mark II N??

Is this camera the best choice for sports photography and for it's all around versatility to cover weddings, sports, people, landscapes etc.

Thanks

Ed

in digital?
check out the Nikon D2h
or D2x
in your system, the EOS 1V will do 10FPS
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"With its continuous shooting speed of approximately 8.5 frames-per-second, the EOS-1D Mark II N is the world's fastest Digital SLR camera (as of August, 2005). This record-breaking speed is achieved even when recording in the Large JPEG setting (approx. 3,504 x 2,336 pixels) - a major triumph. 8.5 fps are maintained during maximum bursts of 48 shots (22 shots in RAW). Bursts are first recorded to the cameras internal memory to ensure maximum speed and then transferred to memory cards for storage. The number of shots remaining during a burst is displayed on the right side of the viewfinder.

Photographers can expect an exceptional degree of performance and reliability on par with any film camera they've ever used. Speedy shooting is achieved with lightning-fast 45-point AF, sophisticated tracking and predictive AF technology combined with precise, instant metering, no matter the setting. Shutter lag is a paltry 55 milliseconds. Starting up in 0.2 sec., the EOS-1D Mark II N demonstrates its speed immediately.

• As of August 2005."

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there's a consumer camera from the year 2000 called the Olympus E-100RS which could shoot at 15 frames per second. it is so fast that it can record before you even fully press the shutter.
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Pivot Pictures said:

Is this camera the best choice for sports photography and for it's
all around versatility to cover weddings, sports, people,
landscapes etc.

Thanks

Ed

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To shoot weddings and landscapes, you would want one with a bigger sensor and more resolution, so the 1DS MkII is probably a better choice. The 1DS MkII is almost as fast as the 1D MkII but it has the advantage of a larger sensor. Sure, you spend more money on the 1DS, but every Canon lens you buy will have the same focal length on film and on the 1DS. No need to multiply the focal length by 1.3. That is an advantage in landscape photography. Ultra wide angle lenses also come in handy shooting weddings indoors, where the space can be tight. In sum, the 1DS is a better all around camera than the 1D for people who shoot more than just sports. Canon is not upgrading the 1D MKII the same way it has upgraded other camera models. It is a sure sign that the 1DMKII will be replaced with a faster 1DS successor.

Anastigmat said:

Pivot Pictures said:

Is this camera the best choice for sports photography and for it's
all around versatility to cover weddings, sports, people,
landscapes etc.

Thanks

Ed

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To shoot weddings and landscapes, you would want one with a bigger
sensor and more resolution, so the 1DS MkII is probably a better
choice. The 1DS MkII is almost as fast as the 1D MkII but it has
the advantage of a larger sensor. Sure, you spend more money on
the 1DS, but every Canon lens you buy will have the same focal
length on film and on the 1DS. No need to multiply the focal
length by 1.3. That is an advantage in landscape photography.
Ultra wide angle lenses also come in handy shooting weddings
indoors, where the space can be tight. In sum, the 1DS is a better
all around camera than the 1D for people who shoot more than just
sports. Canon is not upgrading the 1D MKII the same way it has
upgraded other camera models. It is a sure sign that the 1DMKII
will be replaced with a faster 1DS successor.

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thanks for the info!

I would love to get the 1ds but for almost 3 grand more than the 1d..is it worth it? I realize the 1ds only shoots 5 fps compared to the 8.5 of the 1d, will that make much of a difference?

I guess 8.2 MP is not enough these days..but I am hoping it will be fine for a while.

I want a camera I can grow with.

If I will consider the 1ds then I might as well consider the nikon D2X which also shoots 5 fps and is a lot cheaper.

I am not sure, I am totally confused!

Will Canon announce any new models to the 1d series at PMA?

Ed

Anastigmat said:

To shoot weddings and landscapes, you would want one with a bigger
sensor and more resolution, so the 1DS MkII is probably a better
choice.

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Why? I mean there's nothing wrong with an 8.2MP sensor and 1.3 crop.

Anastigmat said:

The 1DS MkII is almost as fast as the 1D MkII but it has
the advantage of a larger sensor. Sure, you spend more money on
the 1DS, but every Canon lens you buy will have the same focal
length on film and on the 1DS.

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"Almost as fast".....not even close actually. And, "more money" is quite an understatement....twice as much is what I would consider substantially more.

Anastigmat said:

No need to multiply the focal length by 1.3. That is an advantage in > landscape photography. Ultra wide angle lenses also come in handy > shooting weddings indoors, where the space can be tight. In sum, > the 1DS is a better all around camera than the 1D for people who shoot > more than just sports.

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For sports, the 1.3 crop is a nice feature actually, and ge did mention sports as one of his criterias. There are ultra wide angle lenses available for the 1.3 crop....Sigma 12-24....even the 16-35 is pretty wide on a 1.3. I think the MkII is a great all round camera as well, and at half the price, you have a nice chunk of change for some high quality glass, which you will dearly need.

Anastigmat said:

Canon is not upgrading the 1D MKII the same way it has upgraded > other camera models. It is a sure sign that the 1DMKII will be replaced > with a faster 1DS successor.

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Sure sign.....well, not really IMO. The MkII N is not ground breasking in terms of an upgrade, but the camera was pretty hot in the first place.....most every pro in the world of sport uses these or the first MkII, so they did not need to re-invent the wheel. That said, there has been all kind of rumor & speculation of a new 1 series full frame...no fact, just guesses. One thing for sure, it will cost much more than a MkII N.

The OP asked specifically "Re: what is faster than the Canon EOS 1D Mark II N ?"

The answer is not a 1Ds.

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So...none of the nikon DSLr's are faster (at top image quailty)

Are there any DSLR's faster than the Canon 1d?

I am starting to love this caerma more and more...I am tempted to purcahse one now but I think I will wait until PMA is over.

Ed

I think that PMA will anounce 20D replacement but in any case it won't overspeed the 8.5fps that come out of 1D, 1DmkII or 1DmkIIn.

I own and use the first two and honestly i do not want to use anything else. The x1.3 is not an issue as the most important is the extra clear 100% viewfinder !
8.2MPix is pleanty enough for many usages even in larger prints.

Personally, i doubt they will come out with anything radically new in the next few years.

My only wish might go for lighter batteries to gain a bit of weight as it does end up heavy after a long shoot, but the hand feel is so impressive that i never really look back on that issue, but it's only human to try to find hard points, if any really.
You can safely go buy your now without any regrets.
Cheers

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Philippe R said:

I think that PMA will anounce 20D replacement but in any case it
won't overspeed the 8.5fps that come out of 1D, 1DmkII or 1DmkIIn.
I own and use the first two and honestly i do not want to use
anything else. The x1.3 is not an issue as the most important is
the extra clear 100% viewfinder !
8.2MPix is pleanty enough for many usages even in larger prints.
Personally, i doubt they will come out with anything radically new
in the next few years.
My only wish might go for lighter batteries to gain a bit of weight
as it does end up heavy after a long shoot, but the hand feel is so
impressive that i never really look back on that issue, but it's
only human to try to find hard points, if any really.
You can safely go buy your now without any regrets.
Cheers

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Phil (Nice, FR)
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http://www.pbase.com/webman06
http://www.eosdslr.com

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Thanks!

Hey, what is the largest size you were able to print out one of your 1D images??

could you notice any digital artifacts?

Ed

Anastigmat said:

The 1DS MkII is almost as fast as the 1D MkII

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No it's not - 4fps.

Data throughput on the Ds and D Mk2s are almost the same at:
1DMk2 - 8.5fps x 8.2Mp = 69.7Mp/sec
1DsMk2 - 4fps x 16.7Mp = 66.9Mp/sec
as they both use the same Digic 2 processor and the same memory bus.

To get a merged 1D series with both 8.5fps (for action) and 16.7Mp FF sensor we need 16.7 x 8.5 = 141.95Mp/sec.

which is a not insubstantial increase in data processing from the where we are at the moment.
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It IS the fastest. 8.2mp IS enough. I have the 1D and it only has 4!

Hi Ed,

The largest print i got was 50x60cm and it turned out great. I got it printed from an EPSON 7600 on matte paper. Once framed, the result was awsome and i got an order for one the same day ;-) and i'm not a pro !

No real artifacts. I did work on it with photoshop a bit but not that much overall.

Sure hope you'll have as great a time as i do with it. It's really THE camera i love working with.

Cheers,
Philippe

Pivot Pictures said:

Thanks!

Hey, what is the largest size you were able to print out one of
your 1D images??

could you notice any digital artifacts?

Ed

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I forgot how big can you print on 8.2 mp?