Z 6 LCD Red flowers are magenta

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Floral displays of red flowers look magenta on the LCD screen and colours generaly are flat. Impossible to assess subject quality. Is this a camera fault or are all Z6's like this?
Thinking of returning the camera to MK for adjustment if that is possible
Regards jp
 
Floral displays of red flowers look magenta on the LCD screen and
colours generaly are flat. Impossible to assess subject quality. Is
this a camera fault or are all Z6's like this?
Thinking of returning the camera to MK for adjustment if that is
possible
Regards jp
sheesh, a rush of Z6 newbs. the dealers must be throwing them out. ;-)

i can't say how accurate my lcd is. basically cos i pay it very little mind. it's just there as a rough guide. i just look to see if anything is seriously wrong like a chopped off head. and to read the histogram and check the settings, and access menus... that kind of thing. unless something is grossly wrong, i wait and judge the worth of the image once it's on my computer.
 
I've shot quite a few photos with my Z6 since last October and I never thought the color display in the LCD to be off. The images turn out fine as well. Perhaps you have a custom white balance set?
Here is a hibiscus that looks identical to the original.



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Thanks folks.

If anyone bought an LCD TV or PC monitor that produced blue red flowers I think it would go back fast. Perhaps I have been spoilt with my Kyocera 3.2m. (battery hungry sob) My friend has a 1.2 Practica, no prob’ with that either. What I see on the screen is what I get on the PC.
No, this is a backward step IMHO.

Transferred Z6 pictures to PC or TV are OK; but I can’t carry these monitors about!! As regards resolution, I have not had an opportunity to asses this.
Regards jp
 
If what you see on the LCD is what you see on the PC then I'd take
it back pronto! ;^)
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Hi Sinnettc,

If what you see on the PC is not what you see on the LCD, what then?
The camera has been sent for a check up.

If the LCD is not telling the truth, it may as well be a mono display. At least you would know the score. But would that be a good selling point? I don't know of any other camera, no matter what the price range, that distorts LCD colour like this one.

If your LCD or Plasma Tele' reproduced blue red blossoms you would reject it surely.
Thanks for comments.

Regards jim pills
 
i've just checked how colours look on my Z6's lcd screen and, yes, the reds are more magenta than they appear on my computer screen in iView pro and photoshop. how they appear in preview is different again. how they appear when they are uploaded to my internet albums and viewed with a browser is different again. they probably look very different on your peecee compared to my mac. they would probably look very different on another mac set at default calibration compared to my customised calibration...

how out of whack is it? can you adjust it in an image editor to match what you're seeing on your Z6 lcd screen and post it? you're bound to get some variation. but mabbe something's very wrong...
 
I agree I think. My LCD and what I see on the PC are pretty close so I think you may have gotten a lemon. Hope it comes back in better working order.

Let us know what happens.

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Here's a question - when you're in PS are you using Adobe's color settings? The Z6 is sRGB. I thought I read somewhere that shooting in sRGB and displaying in another color space can cause issues???

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Buggzie Hi

My gripe is only about the editing/deleting on the LCD when reviewing judging flower arrangements, and pics taken in woodland areas. My little battery hungry Kyrocera is very accurate on it’s screen. For 3.2m I have had some very good A4’s.

Blue reds are not good for editing on the LCD of the Z6. The camera has been returned for investigation
Regards folks for input, jim pills
 
i've just checked how colours look on my Z6's lcd screen and, yes,
the reds are more magenta than they appear on my computer screen in
iView pro and photoshop. how they appear in preview is different
again. how they appear when they are uploaded to my internet albums
and viewed with a browser is different again. they probably look
very different on your peecee compared to my mac. they would
probably look very different on another mac set at default
calibration compared to my customised calibration...

how out of whack is it? can you adjust it in an image editor to
match what you're seeing on your Z6 lcd screen and post it? you're
bound to get some variation. but mabbe something's very wrong...
Hi bubzie and all.

I have a shot of the LCD screen taken with my Kyocera s3. It shows very accurately the colour bias to blue. But I don’t know how to insert it into my postings as I am new to this forum thing. I think the forum is really great and very positive.
Will have to look at the posting instructions. Regards jp.
 
Floral displays of red flowers look magenta on the LCD screen and
colours generaly are flat. Impossible to assess subject quality. Is
this a camera fault or are all Z6's like this?
Thinking of returning the camera to MK for adjustment if that is
possible
Regards jp
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if white balance was the problem, it would be a blue cast in all colours.

but oversaturation of reds is indeed a big problem. large areas of bright red are always a big headache. too often digital cameras -- and flatbed scanners -- render them as one big splotch of flat colour with very little definition or form.

however that doesn't explain why the lcd is giving the red a blue cast. some cameras tend to orange and some cameras tend to magenta. check out some of phil's sample shots of the still life on this site to see the variation in how different cameras interpret the same colours.

but i can't see the problem here. it seems the reds are satisfactory on the computer screen. as long as it's red on the camera lcd, who cares what red? it's just an approximate guide anyway. it's not as though there's any way to adjust "red" in the camera. except by altering the white balance but that's going to shift all colours.
 
if white balance was the problem, it would be a blue cast in all
colours.> but oversaturation of reds is indeed a big problem. large areas of
bright red are always a big headache. too often digital cameras --
and flatbed scanners -- render them as one big splotch of flat
colour with very little definition or form.

however that doesn't explain why the lcd is giving the red a blue
cast. some cameras tend to orange and some cameras tend to magenta.
check out some of phil's sample shots of the still life on this
site to see the variation in how different cameras interpret the
same colours.

but i can't see the problem here. it seems the reds are
satisfactory on the computer screen. as long as it's red on the
camera lcd, who cares what red? it's just an approximate guide
anyway. it's not as though there's any way to adjust "red" in the
camera. except by altering the white balance but that's going to
shift all colours.
Hi bugzie,

I cannot edit flower arrangements. This is a retrograde step in my camera experience. May as well have a mono LCD! Thanks for opinion. My little Kyocera is fully colour matched.

The Z6 is due back from MK in a few days so I will make a report. If it has been adjusted I will keep it. If not will return under gtee’ and look at the Oly SP-500UZ. That has a 2.5” LCD but no dioptre adjustment.

Regards jp.
 
Another PS

Are all Z6 LCD's like this one. I still don't know from this forum if other users have noticed this blue bias on red
Regards jp
 
My Z6 exhibits that bias until I partially depress the shutter
release with both the LCD and in the Viewfinder. Once depressed
partially the color is very accurate.
Well, in some ways that makes sense because it's probably not setting the white balance (in auto) until you depress the button. Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure I've seen the same thing.

Frankly I never expected the color on the LCD's on any of my cameras to be the same as what shows on the pc. Close, but not spot on. It's dealing with a lot of data in a little space and it's probably a bit much to ask it to be 100% accuracy.
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My original post concerns the colour of the image on the LCD for the purpose of editing and discarding. If when viewing red blossoms they appear blue I do not think that is satisfactory, although this seems acceptable to some on this issue. Perhaps even a mono display would be OK for some!

Jfelbab. Goes onto a different issue of the LCD during the taking of shot.

I still have not had anybody coming back saying that they have blue red blossoms on their LCD.
Surely the must be somebody out there with an observation on this issue.
Please let me know. Regards jp
My Z6 exhibits that bias until I partially depress the shutter
release with both the LCD and in the Viewfinder. Once depressed
partially the color is very accurate.
Well, in some ways that makes sense because it's probably not
setting the white balance (in auto) until you depress the button.
Now that I think about it I'm pretty sure I've seen the same thing.

Frankly I never expected the color on the LCD's on any of my
cameras to be the same as what shows on the pc. Close, but not spot
on. It's dealing with a lot of data in a little space and it's
probably a bit much to ask it to be 100% accuracy.
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My original post concerns the colour of the image on the LCD for
the purpose of editing and discarding. If when viewing red blossoms
they appear blue
if red flowers appear blue, then that is not at all satisfactory. that's very very wrong.

I do not think that is satisfactory, although this
seems acceptable to some on this issue. Perhaps even a mono
display would be OK for some!

Jfelbab. Goes onto a different issue of the LCD during the taking
of shot.

I still have not had anybody coming back saying that they have blue
red blossoms on their LCD.
blue red? are the red flowers blue or red on the lcd screen? blue red or magenta red (which are the same) is red. red with a blue, or magenta, cast. yes, my reds have more of a blue or magenta cast on my camera's lcd than they have in photoshop on my computer. i've already said that. but i'm not at all worried, as long as they're red. if red objects looked purple or blue on my camera lcd, i'd be taking the camera back for repair. as long as they're within the spectrum of red, i don't care if they have a slight orange or a slight magenta cast.
Surely the must be somebody out there with an observation on this
issue.
what colours do red objects look like on your camera lcd screen. are they red, magenta, purple or blue? to cycle around the red to blue spectrum, you have red, magenta-red, red-magenta, magenta, purple-magenta, magenta purple, purple, blue-purple, purple-blue, blue. so what colour would you say your red flowers match in this spectrum? because i'm getting a little confused by what you mean by "blue red". in colour terminology blue-red is red. it's red with a magenta cast. an object can't be blue and red at the same time. well, it can, but then it wouldn't be red, it would be magenta.

you see, if your flowers are somewhere in the vicinity of red, however you want to describe a cast to either this or that, i just can't see the problem. if they're blue, yes, that is indeed a problem. it's especially not a problem if they're fine on your computer screen.

as to editing in camera, not a good idea. you can't see if shots are out of focus. you can adjust colour on your computer but out of focus is disastrous. i have a nice big memory card and i keep just about everything i shoot. except the out and out bloopers. i cull them out once i can see them properly on my computer. you really can't judge a shot on the lcd. even at 8x magnification.

but to reiterate, red flowers are red on my lcd. not the same red as in photoshop on my computer -- slightly more magenta (blue) -- but red nonetheless. they are certainly not blue.
Please let me know. Regards jp
 

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