P880 or Sony R1

yeah... both cameras have their advantages and do very well, quite different technology in the cameras, having only high MP and wide angle in common

difficult choice, a bit of a waste to have one of each, but that seems to be the only way to have the best of both worlds

I'd say the P880 rules the low end price bracket and is certainly not disgraced by the R1 with its large sized sensor, which is quite over-priced and a compromised beast (aesthetics, lack of movie mode...)
maybe PMA will mean more competition in this bracket and lower prices?
For me... i am undecided

Ulo said:

maybe PMA will mean more competition in this bracket and lower prices?
For me... i am undecided

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-- you & me both, having great difficulty deciding between Sony R1, Kodak P880 & Fuji S9500 (9000). All have positive/negative points, Sony does seem very expensive, although I appreciate it has the best noise/lens quality - although I'm just not sure if I would really see such a big difference

Fuji's extra zoom is useful, but I also like the 24mm of the Sony & Kodak, particularly as I will be doing much landscape work.

--- As you say, hopefully PMA will see something new in this category & perhaps make the decision easier !!!

I have the P880 and the R1.The sony came yesterday and after a little testing I will try and post a few if anyone would me to do that?? At first look they are a long way apart and only a little testing will tell.
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tealblue said:

I have the P880 and the R1.The sony came yesterday and after a
little testing I will try and post a few if anyone would me to do
that?? At first look they are a long way apart and only a little
testing will tell.
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-- Thanks for that, would like to see a comparison for sure, I'd also appreciate your thoughts on both, might just help me decide

simon

just fyi, the above comment is correct. the P880 in constant auto focus mode always updates the focus, but in the one touch focus mode it locks...no hunting around. this is also useful to know for video mode. with one touch foucs lock you don't get the noise of the focus system on the video.

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tealblue said:

I have the P880 and the R1.The sony came yesterday and after a
little testing I will try and post a few if anyone would me to do
that?? At first look they are a long way apart and only a little
testing will tell.
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-- Thanks for that, would like to see a comparison for sure, I'd
also appreciate your thoughts on both, might just help me decide

simon

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wow Teal...Having both is certainly unique...Maybe a little crazzzy.

BUT I really look forward to reading your opinions. You will probably sway me towards either the 880 or R1. As you seem to be the only one around in either the Sony forum or here that will have first hand experience with both camera

Its not my thing to interfereer in other forums.
but the folks here are right.
the R1 cost to muts to make sens.

for thad prize you have an dslr.
if you are afrey for dust buy the E500
have build in dust removing.

also the E500 is an good dslr,and fast you can put verry good cheap lences for it.

but it will cost you also around $1000 to be compleet.
I have the H1 from sony about the same as the p880 I think

thads is becouse if I went out to shoot I never need to remove my lens from my D70s I just take the sonny H1 for tele.

Speed and so I can't say anything becouse I do not own an p880
meaby A good idd is to wait untill pma 2006 end of the mond.
new camera's every day
have fun.

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Ulo said:

I'd say the P880 rules the low end price bracket and is certainly
not disgraced by the R1 with its large sized sensor, which is quite
over-priced and a compromised beast (aesthetics, lack of movie

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I have to disagree about the pricing. In the UK if you walk into our largest stores the price of the P880 is within 28 pounds of the Nikon D50 and other lower end Digital SLRs. It is way too over priced, sure...you can hunt around for low prices....but I have failed to find the cheaper ones in stock when calling. As for the R1....again compared to most DSLRs its priced around 530-550 pounds compared to the 400 Pounds for a P880. Thats P880 buying price of 700 DOLLARS or 585 Euros.

The P880 doesn't hit the low end of the price market here..this is the Konica Minolta A200 and the Nikon 8700...which are still to be found for 100-150 pounds cheaper than the P880. If you're lucky you can even find a beautiful KM A2 for these prices too. The P880 price needs to drop to 299 in the stores...but this is the spaced inhabited by the P850..520 dollar bracket....and most places sell it for 70 dollars MORE than that at around 590 - 600 bucks...

Just to set the records straight.

Prices are slightly lower online. But not many advertising low prices have them in stock.

Welcome to RIP OFF UK.....and in one thread I mentioned that prices were cheaper than Thailand....where prices are a little higher. Now given salaries are 8 times lower than the UK ( well my friends salaries are ) those in the US should be thankful that the rest of the world is being screwed for their benefit!! Hey...but who cares...you got a cheap camera didn't ya! ;-)

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Nice photos, problem is you haven't solved my dilemma - both look very good to me !!

Any chance you could do a quick summary of your thoughts between the two Inky ???

thanks

simon

Sorry I just didnt get to it as we are working on flowers for valentine's day sales at the local stores. First let me say that the R1 is a super camera with an outstanding lens,better than the 880?? yes I think so. The R1 is very fast focus and again I think faster than the 880-but I do flower work so speed I dont need. Battery life-to me it was even. Photo color-being true?? Iwill give that to the p880 as the R1 was not what I saw in front of my face. Easy to use?? Again its the 880 to me. Focus being clear and sharp?? I find that to be just about a draw-but the R1 was a little better in low light. The bottom line for me is the R1 is a super but very OVER_PRICED camera.I got the R1 as gift for someone and just wanted to test it and I would NOT buy one for my self. I can get all the things I need from the P880 for about 1/2 price of the R1 and it will do about any thing the R1 can. Note I did not test any movie stuff from these cams as I dont ever use this feature.
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Thanks for that, I have similar reservations too regarding the price of the Sony

Just one more question, do you find the High iso limitations of the P880 a problem - the Sny seems to be very good (relatively speaking) even at 1600 ?

thanks

simon

Thad was long ago I saw sutch an picture.
Great picture.
was it with the P880

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As far I saw the high iso is good.
Not an break throu but fairly good.
You may see it like thad in deference.

the R1 use an censor almost as big as an dslr,so in fact the noise will be verry good
wat also noticed was thad purple fraying was also verry good.
Evidence the R1 has an verry good lens.

but my D70s with the 18-70 mm have no CA
the R1 give an little CA

but on the other hand you have 10 mp so I do not think you gone print thad large.

My only reservation for this camera is to costly,and you are stuck with thad lens.
in dslr world if you are not happy with your lens you buy another one.
somtinge you canot do it with the R1

I see the R1 like the E10 still have.
good camera but limited.

So for half of the prize you can buy the P880

It depent of wat you want to do with your camera.
Be awear the R1 is no smal camera,infact its as big as an dslr.
hope this help

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Thanks for that, I have similar reservations too regarding the price of the Sony

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Just one more question, do you find the High iso limitations of the P880 a problem - the Sny seems to be very good (relatively speaking) even at 1600 ?

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Simon

umm when would the average user want ISO 1600?

The P880 has full res up to ISO400, which will prob be > 95% of the shots anyone would take.

it has limited res (0.8MP) for ISO 400,800 and 1600.

Besides, the Sony is ugly! Looks like a video cam, except it has no video ?!

tman

Waw thads an great picture.
its like it come from an foto book.
great.

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Simon

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tman1991 said:

umm when would the average user want ISO 1600?

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Hmm Me

tman1991 said:

The P880 has full res up to ISO400, which will prob be > 95% of the shots anyone would take.

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No Idd

tman1991 said:

it has limited res (0.8MP) for ISO 400,800 and 1600.

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Besides, the Sony is ugly! Looks like a video cam, except it has no video ?!

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Hahaaha,thads an good one.
but its thrue it look like an video,not like an camera

tman

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Thanks for the extra info

-- High iso is useful in low light, having said that my main use would be panoramas/landscapes

-- Have to admit Fuji S9000 is very tempting too though, only has 28mm W/A but zooms to 300mm, also has the added option of useable Iso up to 800 - the 24mm of the Kodak though is a big advantage for lanscape photography

DSLR, like the sound of the OLY E-500 but really do think that I couldn't be bothered with carrying around all that equipment - plus the W/A lens (11-22) is more expensive than the cost of the Kodak camera complete !!!