??? bout XP

Hello all. I just loaded XP on my desktop and now want it in my laptop can I do both and still activate them
Bob

I seem to recall seeing it mentioned somewhere that a 120-day interval is required between activating the same license key on any two different systems.

--svb

Hello,

I don't think you can install the same OS in two different machines. You need to buy two licenses means two disks for two machines. That is what the activation thing is all about!!!

Sangam

Son VoBa said:

I seem to recall seeing it mentioned somewhere that a 120-day
interval is required between activating the same license key on any
two different systems.

--svb

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you can't do that legally with any consumer version of windows.
thats what the XP activation is for protection against.

penguin said:

Hello all. I just loaded XP on my desktop and now want it in my
laptop can I do both and still activate them
Bob

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Hello all,Thank you for your replys. I have done more research and I have found that yes after 120 days it is possible to load on other machines. does it realy work we will find out again ty Bob

I believe if you need to run XP on additional systems, also belonging to you, you would be able to call up Microsoft and purchase just the license keys for some nominal amount (not the original retail purchase price).

--svb

Also, can't you run it for a certain time before you have to activate it?

So you could install it that much earlier. e.g. if it will run un-activated for 30 days, then you can do your second install after only 90 days.
Just a thought.

Joe
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penguin said:

Hello all,Thank you for your replys. I have done more research and
I have found that yes after 120 days it is possible to load on
other machines. does it realy work we will find out again ty Bob

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Hello

Imagine that if when you buy a music cd you can only play it on one cd player. Is there any other piece of software that you can only load on one machine. It really is a disgrace. With more and more people owning more than one computer. Microsoft is determined to cash in, Apparently the Pro edition does not have this limitation but costs twice as much.By the way. there are major compatibility problems with XP, particularily with cd-writers of the HP variety and with Easy CD creator so be careful, particularily if you are planning to do a clean install
kind regards
Gawaine

you are missing one key element, the CD is a physical thing so it only exists in one place at a time, you buy a license to listen to the music, not the CD itself, anywhere. with an OS you are typically buying a license to use one copy on a particular PC, which can be moved to a new PC if you contact MS and tell them.

Apple does the same, except they rely on the customers integrity, as i've said before you can guarantee they are watching it closely, and if it goes well it'll start to be more widespread.

its often called "like a book" you have one copy of the book, you can read it anywhere, even lend it to friends, but you can only use it legally in one place at one time.. With software its slightly more complicated and that nowadays as they are node locked.

I wouldn't be using two seperate machine with the same licensed XP on them connected to the internet.... you might get more than you bargained for

As for other software working like XP, yes there is its been going on practically since the invention of the computer. Nearly all professional SGI software is node locked.

too name a couple (and theres 1000's of examples)
3DSMax, Alias, Maya, flame, flint.
ProDev C/C++ compilers, debuggers., on sun , sgi and PC.

All node locked and often very hard to transfer to a new machine.

You'd be seeing it differently is someone was ripping you off, and yes there are hard working individuals earning a living at MS too, its not just a faceless corp.

If you don't like it, don't buy XP, get linux or other such free OS.

Or stick with 2k or 98/ME (which have the same license rules, but rely on the customers integrity)

charlie

Gawaine said:

Hello
Imagine that if when you buy a music cd you can only play it on one
cd player. Is there any other piece of software that you can only
load on one machine. It really is a disgrace. With more and more
people owning more than one computer. Microsoft is determined to
cash in, Apparently the Pro edition does not have this limitation
but costs twice as much.By the way. there are major compatibility
problems with XP, particularily with cd-writers of the HP variety
and with Easy CD creator so be careful, particularily if you are
planning to do a clean install
kind regards
Gawaine

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Gawaine said:

Hello
Imagine that if when you buy a music cd you can only play it on one
cd player. Is there any other piece of software that you can only
load on one machine. It really is a disgrace. With more and more
people owning more than one computer. Microsoft is determined to
cash in, Apparently the Pro edition does not have this limitation
but costs twice as much.By the way. there are major compatibility
problems with XP, particularily with cd-writers of the HP variety
and with Easy CD creator so be careful, particularily if you are
planning to do a clean install
kind regards
Gawaine

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Hello Gawaine, I love Xp and have it loaded on my Hp desktop everything works great except my pny card reader no update driver available for it yet. cd creater does not work but the cd writer program in xp works great have allready used it so no probs. I do plan on buying XP pro for my laptop so MS wil be making money off me Bob

Hello Bob

I have the HP 8230e external cd-writer. Before buying XP I checked both the HP site and the Microsoft site regarding compatability. Both claimed that it was, with HP promising to release a new driver on the 25th (XP launch day). On the 25th HP changed this to shortly after the release of XP! Unfortunately as I was doing a clean install I had backed everything up onto a RW disc. Only now to I discover that the HP writers are notorious for being difficult to read on other machines. I had carefully prepared for XP weeks in advance, downloading new drivers and putting them onto the back up disc only to find that it was all useless. I have also had problems with my HP S20 scanner which entails buying a new software and driver disc from HP which I am still waiting for. I am actually very angry about the whole thing. The 8230e is certificated by MS but they obviously just take HP's word for it and have not tested it. Apparently there is a bug in XP with regard to re-write. On top of all that my Ravisent DVD software was rendered useless although one can upgrade for $30! I bought MGI's Soft DVD max because it said it was XP ready. It wasn't despite downloading a new patch which doesn't work.The activation thing makes me furious because it is sneaky. Whatever the rights and wrong about this issue Microsoft should be more open about it. If you have more than one computer buy XP Pro at twice the price and you can activate it on all your computers. I would have if I had known but am now faced with having to buy the Pro version as well as the Home edition. I think MS shouild have reduced the price of the Home edition. They have cynically targeted home users. Despite what Charlie says, I think if you buy a piece of software you should be able to load it on whichever computer you want in your own home, after all what is the difference between me having one computer with a large partitioned drive and multiple users and the same users(wife and children) having seperate computers. We are all the same people in the same house. Of course it is all justified by being anti piracy. No doubt there is probably already a hack to get around activation for those inclined, as usual it is the honest who pay. All these companies are obsessed with piracy but quite honestly some of them are asking for it. Adobe ruthlessly exploit their market position by ludicrously overcharging for Photoshop ($800 in UK) consequently it must be about the most commonly pirated piece of software. However I doubt Adobe loses much money as most people with pirated copies would never have bought a genuine copy. MS only achieved their dominance because Apple blew it by greedily pricing their systems beyond the reach of the consumer market and refusing to license third party manufacturers. The idea now of Apple as a warm and cuddly alternative to the PC/Microsoft hegemony is rich in irony. Sorry about the rant but after the past week of mind numbing frustration trying to sort out my computer I needed to vent as they say
kind regards
Gawaine

penguin59471 said:

Hello Gawaine, I love Xp and have it loaded on my Hp desktop
everything works great except my pny card reader no update driver
available for it yet. cd creater does not work but the cd writer
program in xp works great have allready used it so no probs. I do
plan on buying XP pro for my laptop so MS wil be making money off
me Bob

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Actually Gawaine,

The activation requirements for the Pro version are no different than the home version.

The only one that's different is the Corporate version, for companies with a multiuser license, so they can use the same disc to install to many different computers.

Hello John

Yes, I stand corrected. I was told this about the Pro version, but I rang up MS and they confirmed that it was not the case. Incidentally I rang up MS to complain about activation and from what I can gather MS employees are as annoyed about this as everybody else. I was positively encouraged to file a complaint. I think MS is pretty nervous about how the public is going to react and if enough people complain they may soften their policy perhaps by allowing cheap licensing of second copies or discounts on extra versions, but it is up to everybody to complain loudly about it.
kind regards
Gawaine

JohnM said:

Actually Gawaine,

The activation requirements for the Pro version are no different
than the home version.

The only one that's different is the Corporate version, for
companies with a multiuser license, so they can use the same disc
to install to many different computers.

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penguin said:

Gawaine said:

Hello
Imagine that if when you buy a music cd you can only play it on one
cd player. Is there any other piece of software that you can only
load on one machine. It really is a disgrace. With more and more
people owning more than one computer. Microsoft is determined to
cash in, Apparently the Pro edition does not have this limitation
but costs twice as much.By the way. there are major compatibility
problems with XP, particularily with cd-writers of the HP variety
and with Easy CD creator so be careful, particularily if you are
planning to do a clean install
kind regards
Gawaine

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Hello Gawaine, I love Xp and have it loaded on my Hp desktop
everything works great except my pny card reader no update driver
available for it yet. cd creater does not work but the cd writer
program in xp works great have allready used it so no probs. I do
plan on buying XP pro for my laptop so MS wil be making money off
me Bob

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it DOESNT work GREAT... put about 75 files on a cdrw and then go in and try to erase 20 of them....it wont, it insists on erasing the whole disc.... not GREAT in my opinion......plus it blocks the installation of cd creator 5 at this tme..

plus it blocks the

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installation of cd creator 5 at this tme..

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That a plus in my book. Use Nero, it works fine & is way more powerful than that Adaptec junk.

Matt, Easy cd creator works fine with XP if you get the XP updates. I keep a cdrw in my notebook as online backup.

Carl