Microsoft Aquiring Neat Image Scaling Technology Company

and I thought those 20 replies would have been about my original post.

but instead Its all about MS Word vs Open Office (I use Open office too its great)

Neat Image scalable is to compete with google earth java engine for zooming in on map and photo data in real time and seamlessly.
 
and how much of it is work to make their product even more
proprietary?
So taking proprietary technology from one company and moving it to another makes it any more proprietary ?
Oh, I forgot. They are going to "open" their new XML standard.
You don't suppose that's because the State of Massachusetts
threatened to stop using MS products for their documents and MS was
worried about this trend, do you?
Just because you dont want to spend money doesnt mean that everyone has to give their stuff away. You can always write your own and give it away. Where is your free source code of your office package ? If i ask you to come do some networking work for free how would you answer ?
I look forward to the day when more businesses embrace the Oasais
OpenDocument Format, and MS Office users need to download a product
using it to read other business' documents instead of MS Office (MS
does not support this format).
you probably also look forward to free gas and free burgers right ? Well there is no law that forces eveyrone to give stuff away. Get over it.
I can almost hear it now ("I can still remember when we used MS
Office, before users and businesses started getting smarter").
right ...
I've also switched to OpenOffice under Windows XP (even though I've
got a legal copy MS Office 2003 on my PC). My wife has been
using OpenOffice for almost a year now under Linux.
Wow ...
I've had no problems reading documents created with MS Office, and
as already mentioned by others, it's free (and multi-platform):
amazing ...

Guess what you have choices. Bitching like a little girl isnt a choice though ...

--
Michael Salzlechner
http://www.PalmsWestPhoto.com
 
Wow, clever - a dollar sign!
Would you like 228 more of them?
I just spent about $229 on Word just because my attorneys
can't handle a plain text email message. (In the legal profession,
everything has to be a Word document, it seems.)
uhm, star office from sun is available.

and openoffice (which is what staroffice is based on) is FREE for the cost of a download. and its quite MS office compatible.

there's no good reason to support Word anymore. openoffice should at least be tried before you plunk down dollars to Mr Bill...

--
bryan ( http://www.grateful.net ) pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linux-works ,
(sample fz30 raw files: http://www.netstuff.org ) ~
 
If i ask you to come do some networking work for free
how would you answer ?
I'd say no (to you), although I do it all the time (volunteering).

To balance my previous comments,
I'll give some due credit to Microsoft:

Where I volunteer, Word costs only $14.
Office 2003 (Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint) is just $19!
And Windows XP (upgrade license) would cost a paltry $8.

That's the power of Microsoft Software Donations ...

US: http://www.microsoft.com/citizenship/giving/apply/

Canada: http://www.microsoft.com/canada/ican/howtoapply.mspx

For the US and Canada, Microsoft's partner TechSoup.org
handles the donations. (The example prices I mentioned above
are TechSoup's "administrative fees".)

http://www.techsoup.org

Some nonprofits don't qualify for donations through that program,
but may be able to get reasonable prices through Open Licensing:

http://www.microsoft.com/licensing/programs/open/opencharity.mspx

Fortunately the nonprofit where I volunteer is eligible for the
donation program and has used it extensively. It's been very
helpful for them.

THANKS MICROSOFT! (Sincerely!)

Lastly, I apologize for stoking the flames of this entire
non-photography related digression about Microsoft.

-- omr
 
Jim
Guess what you have choices. Bitching like a little girl isnt a
choice though ...
That's so professiional ( not to result to name calling to make
your point).
Since when is girl name calling (that is resort btw not result).

What is NOT professional is whining like you do. If one of my employees would whine like that he wouldnt be my employee anymore.
Thanks so much.
You are quite welcome ...

--
Michael Salzlechner
http://www.PalmsWestPhoto.com
 
omr
I'd say no (to you), although I do it all the time (volunteering).
Well i wouldnt want YOU to work for me anyway but we are not talking about volunteering here and there. We are talking about doing your current job for free from now on.
To balance my previous comments,
I'll give some due credit to Microsoft:

Where I volunteer, Word costs only $14.
Office 2003 (Word, Excel, Outlook, PowerPoint) is just $19!
And Windows XP (upgrade license) would cost a paltry $8.

That's the power of Microsoft Software Donations ...

US: http://www.microsoft.com/citizenship/giving/apply/
Very true. MS and a lot of other software companies give their stuff away or almost do to schools / students / teachers, non profits, ...
Lastly, I apologize for stoking the flames of this entire
non-photography related digression about Microsoft.
Why. Discussions are what keeps that planet working.

And i am not nessecarily happy with all the things microsoft does either but at the same time i recognize them as a free enterprise that is allowed to make money.

I have been in this industry through all versions of windows and way before and in general everything worked out fine. If it wasnt for microsoft i would bet we would pay a lot more for an operating system today than we do.

--
Michael Salzlechner
http://www.PalmsWestPhoto.com
 
You can get Word at CompUSA for less than $100, I don't know what your smoking.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=334898&pfp=cat3
Yes, it contains a fully functional version of Word.
Wow, clever - a dollar sign!
Would you like 228 more of them?
I just spent about $229 on Word just because my attorneys
can't handle a plain text email message. (In the legal profession,
everything has to be a Word document, it seems.)

Just one hour after spending those 229 dollar-signs,
I tried to do this:

(From Microsoft Word Help)
"Select the paragraphs you want to keep together
on a page. On the Format menu, click Paragraph,
and then click the Line and Page Breaks tab.
Select the 'Keep with next' check box."

So I tried that, and yes, it does what it says ... SOMETIMES.
But sometimes, it doesn't. Sure there are workarounds
(manual page-break), but c'mon. For $229, and a history
going all the way back to the first time I saw Word 1.x on
a green screen in a 1980s prehistoric computer shop ...
can't the silly thing be debugged by now?

Or is this a bug, not a feature? Does Word sometimes
decide that it just doesn't want to keep two paragraphs
together on a page, even if I tell it to do so, and even if
the paragraphs obviously will fit together on a page?
(And if it IS a feature, not a bug, then why isn't it
properly documented in Help?)

Now I can contact Microsoft Support ONE TIME for assistance
free of charge. After that it is $35 per request.

$35 per support request! Can you see those dollar signs?
"Micro$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$oft"

-- omr
 
Very true. MS and a lot of other software companies give their
stuff away or almost do to schools / students / teachers, non
profits, ...
drug dealers perform that 'service' as well.

get 'em hooked early. its pretty smart, actually - even though it turns you into a criminal.

you think MS is the Good Guy here. LOL LOL LOL.
I have been in this industry through all versions of windows and
way before and in general everything worked out fine. If it wasnt
for microsoft i would bet we would pay a lot more for an operating
system today than we do.
another LOL. such a fanboy....

I say exactly the opposite. MS has killed competition, unfairly, and we would ALL be much better off if we had HONEST ACTUAL competition for our desktop o/s.

if it wasn't for MS, we wouldn't have the notion of rampant virii like we do today. these do NOT exist on unix - they're really a MS phenomenon. all the brokenness that MS gives, all the tech support nightmares, all the ILOVEYOU emails that took whole companies' email systems down for days at a time and lost billions of dollars.

yes, a big hearty thank you to bill gates and crew. it really helped advance mankind, didn't it? we owe SO much to wonderful mr bill...

[cough]

if MS didn't supply the o/s someone else would have. probably better, too. if someone slightly less ruthless was in control, things would be far better (compute wise) than they are now. things are an utter mess right now compared to where they COULD have been. such a crying shame what COULD have been if we didn't have such a harsh monopoly.

--
bryan ( http://www.grateful.net ) pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/linux-works ,
(sample fz30 raw files: http://www.netstuff.org ) ~
 
You can get Word at CompUSA for less than $100, I don't know what
your smoking.
http://www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=334898&pfp=cat3
Yes, it contains a fully functional version of Word.
omr wrote:
The "Works" packages have always required a prior version of some software as part of the licence agreement. In other words, they are upgrade or competitive upgrade packages. The requirements have typically been loose. Maybe Microsoft has stopped this or maybe Circuit City has the info wrong.

--
Jay Turberville
http://www.jayandwanda.com
 
Very true. MS and a lot of other software companies give their
stuff away or almost do to schools / students / teachers, non
profits, ...
drug dealers perform that 'service' as well.

get 'em hooked early. its pretty smart, actually - even though it
turns you into a criminal.
It was Apple who pioneered the technique of giving stuff away to schools and selling at cost to students.
you think MS is the Good Guy here. LOL LOL LOL.
There are no good guys. Well, aside from folks like Linus ;)
I have been in this industry through all versions of windows and
way before and in general everything worked out fine. If it wasnt
for microsoft i would bet we would pay a lot more for an operating
system today than we do.
another LOL. such a fanboy....
Some people can't wrap their minds around FreeBSD or, dang, what was that other popular, free, open source UNIX clone? The name is on the tip of my tongue...
I say exactly the opposite. MS has killed competition, unfairly,
and we would ALL be much better off if we had HONEST ACTUAL
competition for our desktop o/s.
That's a characteristic of competition. Someone has to win, and do you think we'd be in any better shape if it were Apple (OS-X prommised in 1989, shipped 12 years later) or Sun? I'm not sure there's a business model where free OSs win.
if it wasn't for MS, we wouldn't have the notion of rampant virii
like we do today. these do NOT exist on unix
Of course they exist. How about Slapper, Scapler, and Lupper? Scalper was sufficiently widespread to have varients like scalper.a and scalper.b. Opener, SadMind, X.C, OSF-A, and Diesel? Or some classic worms like Adore, Ramen, and Lion?
  • they're really a MS
phenomenon.
No, they're a phemonon particular to the winner of the "OS wars". Virus writers want an audience. With hundreds of millions of PCs, in the hands of, well, anyone (my 10 year old niece has a laptop running XP) that's an "audience". A good virus, hitting hundreds of thousands of people, makes the papers and the TV news. People don't write as many UNIX viruses (man, I miss the days when we said "virii") because "virus wipes out 24 pimply faced geek's computers" isn't much of a headline.
all the brokenness that MS gives, all the tech support
nightmares, all the ILOVEYOU emails that took whole companies'
email systems down for days at a time and lost billions of dollars.

yes, a big hearty thank you to bill gates and crew. it really
helped advance mankind, didn't it? we owe SO much to wonderful mr
bill...
Somebody had to win. Everybody hates a winner. (And yes, I don't care much for Gates or Windows, either).
http://www.robitussin.com/
if MS didn't supply the o/s someone else would have. probably
better, too. if someone slightly less ruthless was in control,
things would be far better (compute wise) than they are now.
How does one get to be "in control" without being ruthless?
things are an utter mess right now compared to where they COULD
have been. such a crying shame what COULD have been if we didn't
have such a harsh monopoly.
The people get the government they deserve....

--

The best minds are not in government. If any were, business would hire them away. (Ronald Regan)

Ciao!

Joe

http://www.swissarmyfork.com
 
i think MS indirectly has driven the IT industry.

Look at hackers and Virus Sig developers. Why hack? to become famous in the underworld. will hacking small no name company make you famous? hell no! go for the big impact names. Mainly MS. Outcome > new markets develop. look at the security market and anti virus and spam markets. They are massive. How big is Symantec - huge. They (and their competers)are developing new algorythms and AI every day to counter act viruses and hackers.

Take hackers and virus developers out of the world and suddenly you have taken away 100 000 jobs - what are they going to do?

I dare say MS have bought a lot of companies/technology and implemented it into Windows xyz. Would we know? as a consumer i doubt it. but as in the stock market, or developer industry you're company and you're name as a developer gets more recognition and publicity than it otherwise would have - hence future job prospects become greater.

As a developer i would be stoked if MS came knocking on my door wanting my technology which will be installed onto a billion computers in the next 52 weeks!

without MS there would be a million standards and alot more competing products yes - is that good? not really - how long has the BlueRay and HD-DVD debate being going on??? And thats between the big companies, imagine it between a million smaller ones! would your voice get heard???doubt it.

Another example is Napster - that was new and innovative, got bought out eventually and now they are making a bucket of money and created a new market and more jobs at the same time.

sorry for ranting raving like a headless chook - MS bashers give me the runs. They are a company driven by success and money. They have made it POSSIBLE for computers to be accessible anywhere - especially in schools and in Africa. They make it easy for software developers to code a program and KNOW that it will work on any machine.

blaablaablaaa....justcheckingtoseeifyoumadeittotheendofhtepost!
--Any advice is good advice....
 
Open Office is a great product. Been recommending it and using it and its predecessor for years.

Rick
 

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