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Pictures look great! Because of the 800 ISO did you need to run these through Noise Ninja? Are you primarily a shooter who prefers ambient light to flash and if so have you shot the S3 at ISO1600? At 1600 ISO what are your results.
Russ
 
Hello Tigadee,

Do NOT use the S3 for wedding otherwise you will get stuck with it, you would not want to use another camera! :)

Nice pictures! I recently did a wedding with the S3 and Nikon 50mm 1.8, the combination is ...unbeatable and the amazing how forgiving those file are as well. I actually think at ISO 800, JEPGs are much sweeter than the raw files, much less work as well. There is plenty of information in the shadows and the highlights...you may push them as much as you'd like!

I shot about 1500 frames and I got about 1300 which are either really good or pretty much acceptable. I used mostly available light and with a tiny fill flash.
How did you find the lens, 50mm 1.4, at wide open appreture of 1.4?
Regards.
 
Rocketman2588 said:
Rocketman2588 wrote:
Pictures look great! Because of the 800 ISO did you need to run
these through Noise Ninja?
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No, no NR done. :-) That's the amazing thing!
Rocketman2588 said:
Are you primarily a shooter who prefers
ambient light to flash and if so have you shot the S3 at ISO1600?
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Only for macros and portraits, otherwise I'd use bounced flash for group shots, for example. ISO 1600 look good too, but there was no need it it till it got later in in the evening.
Rocketman2588 said:
At 1600 ISO what are your results.
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Very usable!

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Cyrus kamak said:
Cyrus kamak wrote:
Hello Tigadee,
Do NOT use the S3 for wedding otherwise you will get stuck with it,
you would not want to use another camera! :)
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Very good, I shall use the S3 only! ;-)
Cyrus kamak said:
Nice pictures!
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Thanks!
Cyrus kamak said:
I recently did a wedding with the S3 and Nikon 50mm
1.8, the combination is ...unbeatable and the amazing how forgiving
those file are as well. I actually think at ISO 800, JEPGs are much
sweeter than the raw files, much less work as well. There is plenty
of information in the shadows and the highlights...you may push
them as much as you'd like!
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You're right!
Cyrus kamak said:
How did you find the lens, 50mm 1.4, at wide open appreture of 1.4?
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Very, very good! Bright, sharp and buttery smooth bokeh!

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seems like you are addicted as well.
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Photograph - I don't need your
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Tigadee said:
...the S3 pro is a great high-ISO performer! And the AWB is superb!
(S3's weakness is the buffer/fps.)

The Sony R1 which I also used has similar DR and details, but
cannot acheive the same DOF as the S3 w/ its marvelous 50mm f1.4
lens, so they make a good pair in their own ways.
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Nice pics there as well. I'm not sure aout the shadow detail but the highlights,...do not compare! :)
Tigadee said:
My R1 shots here if anybody's interested:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1009&message=16883660

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Hey i have the s3 and love it. I do a lot of event photography and would love to see the same shoot from a studio setting from the s3 and R1 if you have any full size i would love to see them.

Thanks
 
Hi Tigadee...

Very nice photos from a shooters perspective but I have some questions about the IQ of the pics. I'm seeing lots of stair-stepping in the pics..what sort of jpg compression was done on them? The first shot especially suffers around the writing of their names on the envelope.

Also what is all that noise up in the blue area in the shot where she is pinning the shirt of the guy? The blue wall in the upper right looks very noisy. If I can see that in these greatly reduced jpg's how does it look at full size? It looks like color noise?

thanks for any info and thanks for posting these..

-Dennis
 
DennisS213286 said:
DennisS wrote:
Hi Tigadee...
Very nice photos from a shooters perspective
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Thanks Dennis...
DennisS213286 said:
I'm seeing lots of
stair-stepping in the pics..what sort of jpg compression was done
on them? The first shot especially suffers around the writing of
their names on the envelope.
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Too strong sharpening...
DennisS213286 said:
Also what is all that noise up in the blue area in the shot where
she is pinning the shirt of the guy? The blue wall in the upper
right looks very noisy. If I can see that in these greatly reduced
jpg's how does it look at full size? It looks like color noise?
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Most likely the ISO800 (lumina) noise exaggerated by the sharpening. :-)

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by your comments on IQ, DennisS

I suspect you know that jpg compression for the 'net introduces stairstep artifact or jaggies & that almost certainly this was not the result of the camera ...you have been around these forums too long not to know this

ditto your snide remarks about the noise in the blue of this charming photograph Tigadee posted



you must be kidding or trying to provoke doubt or agitate

where are you seeing noise? this photo is a web reduced photo ...did you enlarge this to 400 % ...I fail to see any noise problems on my well calibrated monitor

great photographs, Tigadee ...particularly fine considering this was a first time wedding with it for you, though this does not surprise me ...it looks like another S3 has found it way into the hands of a fine photographer & the S3 really does make getting great shots fairly easy work
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Artichoke said:
Artichoke wrote:
you must be kidding or trying to provoke doubt or agitate
where are you seeing noise? this photo is a web reduced photo
...did you enlarge this to 400 % ...I fail to see any noise
problems on my well calibrated monitor
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Even if the noise could be seen, this is a natural light, ISO 800 (possibly ISO 1600 as this was taken later towards the evening) shots, so some noise is excusable. Also the emphasis is on the hands of the bride pinning the flower onto the shirt of the groom and that is what they will see.

Wedding clients see differently from us photogs. We see nosie, they see memories. What's important for a wedding photographer is capturing those memories for their clients, not avoiding noise in shadows or walls, eh Artichoke? ;-)
Artichoke said:
great photographs, Tigadee ...particularly fine considering this
was a first time wedding with it for you, though this does not
surprise me
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Not really... :-) I've been shooting weddings since 2002.
Artichoke said:
& the S3 really does make getting great shots fairly easy work
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That it does, that it does...

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Your 4 'Cees' for photography: Crisp, Clean, Composed and Colourful
http://www.tigadee.fotopic.net
 
I did not mean a first wedding shoot for you, but a first wedding for you using the S3
great shots in any case which I am certain delighted your clients
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Fuji SLRT forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke
 
Artichoke...

Are you denying the strong stair stepping in that first pic? You are right, I've been around a long time and the S3 pics have more stair stepping to my eyes than many other dslrs. Last time this came up you said it was an issue with raw conversion etc I believe. While I don't doubt that its "possible" to get a shot from the S3 with careful pp that does not have stair stepping I see it enough in pics posted by people to believe that its just a trait of Fuji's chip. I was glad that the original poster responded with his explanation "too strong sharpening".

Now, about noise. On my calibrated monitor there is a noticeable amount of color noise in that blue area of that pic. I'd hate to see it at 100%. I would not call it "bad" or anything like that, its just that I expect MORE from the S3 images because of how you rave about them. Since you claim its the best IQ blah blah out there I guess I expect it to mightily beat images from all the other dslr's. I was surprised at all the color noise in that image.

Art, people have become tired of your blanket statements made around here. You take subjective opinions and present them as truth. I feel at this point you create more skepticism about the camera than "belief". Thanks for giving me a laugh for my morning though! I actually read this forum to watch your posts as my friends and I get a laugh out of them.

And Tigadee, thank you for your response, I hope you aren't in love with Fuji to the degree that Art is and that you realize its just a camera. As I said earlier, nice photos from a shooting perspective, just was concerned about the IQ stuff I saw.

-Dennis
Artichoke said:
by your comments on IQ, DennisS
I suspect you know that jpg compression for the 'net introduces
stairstep artifact or jaggies & that almost certainly this was not
the result of the camera ...you have been around these forums too
long not to know this
ditto your snide remarks about the noise in the blue of this
charming photograph Tigadee posted



you must be kidding or trying to provoke doubt or agitate
where are you seeing noise? this photo is a web reduced photo
...did you enlarge this to 400 % ...I fail to see any noise
problems on my well calibrated monitor
great photographs, Tigadee ...particularly fine considering this
was a first time wedding with it for you, though this does not
surprise me ...it looks like another S3 has found it way into the
hands of a fine photographer & the S3 really does make getting
great shots fairly easy work
--
pbase & dpreview supporter
Fuji SLRT forum member since 5/2001
http://www.pbase.com/artichoke
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DennisS213286 said:
DennisS wrote:
Now, about noise. On my calibrated monitor there is a noticeable
amount of color noise in that blue area of that pic. I'd hate to
see it at 100%. I would not call it "bad" or anything like that,
its just that I expect MORE from the S3 images because of how you
rave about them. Since you claim its the best IQ blah blah out
there I guess I expect it to mightily beat images from all the
other dslr's. I was surprised at all the color noise in that image.
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Some noise is forgivable, it was taken at ISO 1600 (if memory serves me right) after all and I did no NR plus some levels adjustment which may have exaggerated the noise.

As for the stair-stepping, I suspect the sharpening was too heavy, which is what caused it (or exaggerated it, if your theory is correct that the stair-stepping is common to Fuji DSLRs).
DennisS213286 said:
And Tigadee, thank you for your response, I hope you aren't in love
with Fuji to the degree that Art is and that you realize its just a
camera.
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I do love the Fuji, it's a great camera for what I used it for. And like I said, it's not the noise the clients see, it's the memories... :-)
DennisS213286 said:
As I said earlier, nice photos from a shooting perspective,
just was concerned about the IQ stuff I saw.
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Thanks Dennis.

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http://www.tigadee.fotopic.net
 
Nice shots - great work!

S3 IQ is unquestionable - Its good you liked better your S3 high ISO IQ when compared to 20D ... I have Canon as a very good overall high ISO performer.

I wonder how much more time will pass before other manufacturers go in the same route as Fuji regarding sensor technology... Fuji S3 sensor doesn't only improve DR but also its capable of superb tone and color rendering ... results are always sublime, whatever the conditions are.

I don't think Nikon will place another camera in the market in the segment of D200... there were 4 years between D100 and D200... If Fuji delivers a S4 early this year, it may be a winner for a couple of years to come, eventually moving some not convinced D200 owners to the Fuji camp - just a thought.

Anyway, people making their life from photography aren't very concerned with IQ and megapixels - the current offer from Fuji, Nikon and Canon is more than enough for the difficult tasks... I guess pros are more interested in faster operation, good AF and decent DR.

Excuse me for hijaking your post will all this bla bla :-)

Regards
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Paulo Abreu,

'It is not worthy to make a video of your life - just keep the best moments in pictures!'
 
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