'common wisdom' about E-1 and ExtremeIII

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Hi all,

Every now and then somebody asks about the possible speed advantages of Sandisk ExtremeIII cards with the E-1, and always somebody quickly points out that the E-1 cannot take advantage of the ExtremeIII's speed advantage over the UltraII.

However, has somebody ever tested this? Or is this just 'common knowledge' that is repeated so often that it has become the truth?

I cannot not remember seeing any concrete evidence for this statement, at least not using firmware 1.4, which specifically addresses support for 'New high speed CompactFlash cards' (from Olympus documentation). In fact, the only measurements that I have found using the search function of this forum indicate that ExtremeIII cards are indeed faster! The measurements were taken from a magazine test, duplicated in this post: http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=15225022

Those results indicate a writing speed of approx 4.6MB/s, significantly higher than the 3.3MB/s figure that is obtained with UltraII cards.

So, all we need now is somebody on this forum with E-1 (firmware v1.4) and an ExtremeIII card to verify these results. The easiest procedure is as follows:

1. Set the E-1 to continuous drive mode, manual focus and manual exposure with a fast shutter speed.
2. Press down the shutter release button until the buffer is filled (12 shots)

3. Measure the time between the intial button press and the moment the CF-write light turns off.

4. Calculate the write speed as 12*10.1MB/T sec, where T is the time measured in (3).

I would be happy if someone could perform this simple test to settle this issue once and for all. Thanks in advance!

Simon
 
I would be interesting as have E-1 and need to get a couple of CF's
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E-1
1.4 firmware
C-mode
Manual focus
Raw only
Shutter 640
1gb Sandisk Extreme (III) (formatted by cam)

1. take = 26.0 sec
2. take = 25,7 sec
3. take = 25,7 sec

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Hi all,

Every now and then somebody asks about the possible speed
advantages of Sandisk ExtremeIII cards with the E-1, and always
somebody quickly points out that the E-1 cannot take advantage of
the ExtremeIII's speed advantage over the UltraII.

However, has somebody ever tested this? Or is this just 'common
knowledge' that is repeated so often that it has become the truth?
About 6 days ago, Marlof did the following tests:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=16545558
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1022&message=16546098

So, the SanDisk Extreme II does speed things up if you are doing 12 shots with RAW mode, and it is a very slight speed up if you are shooting JPEG.
 
Testing SHQ(only) just for fun...

Same settings as previous post..

Take 1 - 23.7sec
Take 2 - 23.4sec
Take 3 - 23.1sec

As you can see, I'm improving :D

Regards

TH
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Thanks guys!

At least it's clear now, there is a speed advantage of ExtremeIII over UltraII: 4.7MB/s vs 3.3MB/s. Not as large as that in the newer cameras, but significant nevertheless.

Cheers,
Simon
 
About 6 days ago, Marlof did the following tests:
Thanks for pointing these posts out to me. I had overlooked them in my search, it seems.
So, the SanDisk Extreme II does speed things up if you are doing 12
shots with RAW mode, and it is a very slight speed up if you are
shooting JPEG.
I'm especially interested in the higher speeds, because I have LCD-review turned off on my E-1 (it's annoying if I take multiple shots). However, whenever I do want to review a shot, I have to wait for the camera to finish writing to the card.

Simon
 
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It's between 50 and 60 seconds. I really don't mind, REALLY!

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My test. I put the camera on manual focus so it would fire each frame as fast as possible. I fired the camera until it reached the 12 frame limit and waited to see how long it was until the buffer cleared. The timing is from the moment I pressed the shutter until the buffer cleared.

2gb Extreme III Card 25 seconds
2gb Ultra II Card 27 seconds

Thanks,
Steve
E-1
1.4 firmware
C-mode
Manual focus
Raw only
Shutter 640
1gb Sandisk Extreme (III) (formatted by cam)

1. take = 26.0 sec
2. take = 25,7 sec
3. take = 25,7 sec

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That's my main concern as well. And of course, knowing that my next camera will probably use CF and will probably have to deal with more MPs and more data. That's the only reason why I believe in getting the fastest cards available.
 
2gb Extreme III Card 25 seconds
2gb Ultra II Card 27 seconds
Steve,

Are you sure you used raw files for the test, and that you didn't make any typos above? With my 2GB UltraII card the same test takes 37 seconds, not 27.

Cheers,
Simon
 
knowing that my next camera will probably use CF. . .
So far as Olympus goes, the only thing you specifically have to worry about, then, is whether you're next camera is going to be an E-1 or not. Both E-300 and E-500 take advantage of the higher write speeds of the Extreme-III, and you can bet any other additions to the Olympus line will likewise.

The way speeds and MP are increasing, I think the smartest thing for anyone is to buy the best/fastest memory available at the time . Because you know that any camera you buy in future will need even more speed than is currently available.

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knowing that my next camera will probably use CF. . .
So far as Olympus goes, the only thing you specifically have to
worry about, then, is whether you're next camera is going to be an
E-1 or not. Both E-300 and E-500 take advantage of the higher write
speeds of the Extreme-III, and you can bet any other additions to
the Olympus line will likewise.
The way speeds and MP are increasing, I think the smartest thing
for anyone is to buy the best/fastest memory available at the
time
. Because you know that any camera you buy in future will need
even more speed than is currently available.
Or even if your next camera will take CF.
 

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