Leica DMR

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Subject Leica DMR
Posted by scanner61 [CLICK FOR PROFILE]
Date/Time 4:40:29 AM, Monday, January 09, 2006
Hey folks,

I am new here so I do hope not to make to many mistakes.
My name is Rob and I come from the Netherlands.

I use Hasselblad"s and leica's for many years and with Christmas I recieve my DMR (Digital Module R) voor my R 8 and R 9

I must say that I have worked with the DMR by Leica in Solms for one day and jet I have worked a couple of weeks with the DMR here in the Netherlands, Utrecht.
I am very surprised that I don't read anything here of the DMR.

My experiences with the DMR are so good and the images are so beautifull and "not digital like " with their often ugly sharpness that I have seen by friends of mine that I think that all the advantages of digital work and the sphere, the beautifullnes of images on film comes together with the DMR.
Which of you have also experiences with the DMR and what is your opinion
of it ?

Thanks and greetings,

Rob.

You should probably check out the "Alternative Digital Systems" forum on fredmiranda.com as that seems to be the DMR users "watering hole".

here on the forums have an interest in this gear because of the huge cost of the system. I'm sure the results are superb, but at what cost?
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charlesh

The costs of a R 9 + DMR are almost equal to -for instance- a mark II, I quess.
Here in the netherlands a mark II is euro 7000,00
R 9 + DMR also euro 7000,00 to 7500,00
For professionals much less because the tax is given back to you.

But the most important matter is: when you have a R 8 or R 9 and you are also working on fine film, you can choose now.
And indeed, the images of the DMR are superb

It seems to me that it is a pity that this superb system isn't mentioned at this side dpreview.
In sept. there will be a digital M camera. Also in the profi class but
a lot of people own leica's.

Greetings, Rob.

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Michael
http://www.thepedagogue.com

others for collection purposes.

Canon's weak point is wide angle optics, given the same Leica R glass mounted, a 1Ds Mark II beats the DMR hands down from every aspect.

Yes, I can do so I must be looking how to do this on this forum.
Low jpeg's ? I quess i cannot post 6 MB images.

On the leica forum there are photographers who sold the Mark II so they can buy an DMR.
When i know how to post some pictures I will do it immediately.

Is it allowed that people who want to see some pictures with the DMR gives a mailadres for 3 MB each photo ?
I have tried to post some pictures here but it failed.
Of course I will show some pictures with a fenominal sharpness but
especially the sphere of pictures made in film !!!
And that is so wonderfull !!

Greetings from Rob, The Netherlands

mail: [email protected]

scanner61 said:

Yes, I can do so I must be looking how to do this on this forum.
Low jpeg's ? I quess i cannot post 6 MB images.

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You can post whatever size images you like. Just put the images up on some web server somewhere and type the url into the message.

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Seen in a fortune cookie:
Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed

Honestly, I don't know how to do it.

I have a Mac G 3 but I don't know where I must put an image or two or three images on a webserver.
I tried on the Gallery but it failed.
I am very, very sorry that I can't share the quality of the DMR.

One of the pictures I have enlarged it in 40 x 50 cm and the same Hasselblad image
isn't better then that of the DMR.

Greetings, Rob.

I think the lens had to be factored into the issue as DSLR goes. You simply cannot get any image by the body itself. There is also a hugh difference between the actual image data captured. a 1Ds MK.II give 16 MP and FF, which to many is enough to trump over the 11MP 1.133X of the DMR. In term of Image quality, anyone going with these bodies are likely to be using RAW and both are equally capable to deliver excellent results. The Nikon D2X provide another high end alternative that is appealing.

One have to also factor in the fact that while the DMR is a capable tool. The R system is less versatile than plenty of others. I myself had been a long time Leica user ( still had my screw mount IIIc ), but as of today, the R system do not exactly made my spirit moves. I will be looking forward to the M-Digital though !!

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Franka

I don't knowhow many DMRs have been delivered to customers now, but shortly after its release I recall seeing that about 60 per month were being delivered worldwide (compared to about 7000-8000 each of Canon 1D Series and Nikon D2 series). It is an interesting piece of equipment but not a very common one.
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equipment inventory in profile

scanner61 said:

It seems to me that it is a pity that this superb system isn't
mentioned at this side dpreview.

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Online communities form in an organic fashion. The DMR folks mostly hang out over at Fred Miranda. Part of this has to do with the overall tone and dynamic of DPReview in general and part of it is just how it happened. DSLRExchange is another site where the DMR and such is discussed. In both cases the communities formed around an early user of the DMR who posted a great deal of images and information about the system. Guy Mancuso at Fred Miranda and Jorge Torrealba at DSLRExchange. (I believe Jorge is the owner of DSLREXchange.) Both Guy and Jorge used to post here occasionally regarding the Canon 1DsMkII and Leica lenses among other things.

Put another way, you wouldn't expect to to be able to buy a Noctilux off the shelf at just any camera store and you probably shouldn't expect to get good discussion of things Leica just anyhwere either...

scanner61 said:

In sept. there will be a digital M camera. Also in the profi class but
a lot of people own leica's.

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It is frequently discussed here and elsewhere. Many are looking forward to this camera.

-Z-

scanner61 said:

Honestly, I don't know how to do it.
I have a Mac G 3 but I don't know where I must put an image or two
or three images on a webserver.

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Go to http://www.photobucket.com , sign up for an account (it's free), upload images, post a link. They do resize large images (over 512k?), so if you want to show fine detail post the original image and then a 100% crop of a particular area of the image.

There are other image hosting sites too, some you need to pay for and others not. http://www.smugmug.com is pretty popular.

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scanner61 said:

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scanner61 said:

My experiences with the DMR are so good and the images are so
beautifull and "not digital like " with their often ugly sharpness
that I have seen by friends of mine that I think that all the
advantages of digital work and the sphere, the beautifullnes of
images on film comes together with the DMR.

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Sharpening can be turned down in most 'advanced' digitals therefore there is no reason why digital images should be "digital like" due to sharpness.

The "ugly" part is subjective. You may not like highly sharpened images, which is your right. But the people who have presented the pictures either liked them sharpened or need to learn more about how to handle their images.

Photographers who have a long history of shooting film sometimes don't like digital images when they initially encounter them. Same happened when a new and different film was introduced. Remember the outcry over Velvia?

Some people with a film/print history find that adding a bit of 'noise' to their files prior to printing makes them more to their liking. Seems like digital images can just seem to clean and crisp.

It seems as if Leica has put some effort into producing out of camera Jpegs that are quite ready to print. And that's fine. But additional in camera processing means that ones options are more limited in terms of post processing.

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Another free gallery site that you might use is http://www.jeber.com . Sign up, upload your pictures, move them into your Gallery.

Then get the Gallery picture on your screen. Right click (PC) on the picture and 'Copy Image Location'. Paste it in your reply as I did here...



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bob

Travel Galleries
http://www.pbase.com/bobtrips

Dear Micael, I have send three pictures in 4 or 5 MB

Greetings, Rob.

In the Netherlands I have waited for one year for my DMR.
I have played with it in Solms by leica and they regret the long waiting times.

The netherlands recieved about 10 to 15 DMR's each month and still there is a waitinglist.

For me is the DMR very usefull because the number of leica objectives and the R 8 and the R 9 who can built to a digital camera in one minute.

The images are wonderfull and a friend of my has beautifull animal pictures on his site. (www.jamesvanleuven.com)

Nikon and Canon built thousands of camera's and one of my photographers has bought de D 2 X and now is there the D 200 for half the price and almost the same results. He is not happy now and he had bad luck with his D2x (suddenly unsharpness etc.)

If you like, I can sell you my DMR/R9 in new condition. Just send me an email.
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Jorge Torralba