CES Fuji F11 announcement...

Ok, since Fuji hasn't said jack about importing the F11 to the US (aside from Hawaii), I'm figuring that they'll probably announce such at upcoming CES.

If not, I think there'll be a LOT of disappointed potential buyers. Why shaft the Americans when there's so much interest in the camera?

Then again, could it be possible that since the F11 was just a minor improvement on the F10, that Fuji might announce the NEW FUJI FINEPIX F12?!!

I really would like to purchase an F11, but I ain't gonna do it thru the net. Me wants US brick and mortar.

-exasperated

I think they just want to get rid of the F10s......the F11 is still an automatic design, it does not have full manual controls, it just makes sence to stick with the F11 for awhile. There ahead of the pack with the F11 with the sensor sensitivity and low noise levels, why should the be in a hurry to step on themselves.

Nope I think the F10 is the one on the way out, the F11's day is just about to dawn!
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I sure as hell hope so.

I'm giving up a LOT of what I was looking for in a pocketable camera/videorecorder (Sanyo C6) in order to go with the F11, but ultimately, the pics from the F11 have the potential to be jaw-dropping by comparison.

Things I'd love to see in an F12...

slightly smaller
simpler menu
SD card
mpeg 4 video encoding
4X optical
16:9 aspect ratio

not much to ask, no?

that'd be about it...but KEEP the darned sensor.

In the meantime, I'm impatiently waiting for a USA Fuji F11.

theranman said:

In the meantime, I'm impatiently waiting for a USA Fuji F11.

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Why are you waiting? Do you think the price will come down alot?
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Nope, I'm waiting to buy it from a brick and mortar store here in Chicago. Nobody even has the F10, so I can't even get a "feel" for the darned thing.

"Me wants US brick and mortar."

You trust U.S. retail stores? I'd trust an online reseller first.

Let me be the first to say "don't hold your breath". Fuji is not going to switch to SD cards midstream, nor will the F11 likely be coming down to F10 price anytime soon. Right now you will pay approx $100-$150 more for an F11 then you will an F10... frankly for me that isn't money well spent as I haven't seen the F11 producing dramatically better photos then the F10. No way the LCD is worth the upgrade IMO, nor the metering. If A and S modes are worth about $75 a piece for you, then go F11 from time2envy on eBay. I wouldn't expect the F11 in the United States... nor would I call the recent "Hawaii" versions anything but "grey-market".

Does Wal-Mart still use brick and mortar, or they made of plastic these days? :-\ They have the F10, as do several other big name retailers. NOTE - I am not advertising nor endorsing any company, you make your own choices.

why do you think they are grey market? didn't the purchaser say his came with a warranty card for the usa? fuji has a service/repair center in hawaii. it's possible the appearance of the f11 in hawaii first is a signal that the f11 will be announced for the us in 2006.

Mind Expansi0n said:

nor would
I call the recent "Hawaii" versions anything but "grey-market".

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Why do you say this? The poster on this forum says his retail box included a usa warranty card, he sited a correct usa serial number ending in us instead of the AS for Japanese cameras and his warranty card sited both the Hawaii service center and the Edison NJ center, Fuji USA warranty dept verified with me that warranty issues should first go to the Hawaii service center because Edison is not yet servicing the F11.

So what is the genisus of your opinon about this Hawaii retailer fronting a grey market camera? Is it a feeling or a hope, do you know the poster to be a liar, please let us know where your comming from?
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theranman said:

Things I'd love to see in an F12...
slightly smaller
simpler menu

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I'd want it larger, to eliminate the need for a terminal adapter and to provide room for external controls, like the F810's, so the menus would be less necesary.
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Well, I'll definitely disagree with about wanting it larger (I prefer pocketability), but getting rid of that terminal adapter/dongle should have been at the top of the list for sure!

theranman said:

Ok, since Fuji hasn't said jack about importing the F11 to the US
(aside from Hawaii), I'm figuring that they'll probably announce
such at upcoming CES.
If not, I think there'll be a LOT of disappointed potential buyers.
Why shaft the Americans when there's so much interest in the camera?
Then again, could it be possible that since the F11 was just a
minor improvement on the F10, that Fuji might announce the NEW FUJI
FINEPIX F12?!!

I really would like to purchase an F11, but I ain't gonna do it
thru the net. Me wants US brick and mortar.

-exasperated

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I personally know nothing about a F12, but it does appear that the F11 was not intended for the "US". Fuji design and engineerinf is great, marketing is a bad no make the a very bad joke on Fuji and us.

However, ordering on line has many advantages especially if you do not live in a super city. For example only 1 of the 5 "camera" locations I frequent in my area carries the S9000 and it is $187 above the 9.? of 10 rated internet stores by http://www.resellerratings.com [BTW the Brick an mortar store is rated 5.27]. So, perhaps a little research is in order with the F11 or perhaps a possible F12.

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Hi all, I am new here, but finally feel like joining in the discussion. Be nice to me

I would like to get hold of the F11, and FYI Dynamism is based in Chicago, and they seem pretty reputable. Why not try them.

The thing with F11 available in Hawaii is that, over there, is a special market, with a sizable Japanese community, and therefore more likely to have what's the Japan's market has. So, I don't think the f11 is from grey market.

Its not surprise that US don't get a lot of the fancy product, for some reason US has always been the last place to get many of the really nice gadgets, i guess except for xbox 360.

As for buying from a "brick and mortar" store, be aware that a lot of cameras arrived at big store might get thrown around a bit, due to the fact that most merchandise arrive in big trailers, and they are not bubble wrapped in any protective packaging just thier original boxes.

IMO, product arriving at smaller establishment sometime get treated better, but its up to you where you want to get it from.

cheers.

not really $75 a piece for A and S modes.

The best price I found on an F10 was about $280 and I paid $360 from timetoenvy which adds up to about $80 for ALL the extra features. The much higher resolution LCD, better metering and manual modes were well worth $80 for me.
Plus the manual modes are the only way I want to shoot.

Of course if my grey market F11 craps out, then I'll wish I'd bought the F10! - but most consumer electronics I've bought usually bite it after my warranty runs out so its a risk I don't mind taking.

Rich

I could not buy an F10, I would have had to go with Canon 620 or Fuji E900, I had to have some control, and the F11 is a meer wink away from the F10 in controls, its still a point N shoot automatic digicam. When I read DP review and that he wanted to give the F10 a high reccomend but for the lack of controls he could not, I read that to mean; if the the F11 was reveiwed it would likely have gotten the high mark with its tiny bit more control.......so right or wrong and for $80 US dollars more then an F10, I had to go F11!
Pooch

theranman said:

Things I'd love to see in an F12...
simpler menu
16:9 aspect ratio

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These are possible, because they're a software matter. However, a 16:9 picture would only utilize 75% of F11's 4:3 sensor - which is a waste.

theranman said:

mpeg 4 video encoding
4X optical
slightly smaller

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MPEG-4 compression requires a lot of real-time processing and I doubt current F10/F11's processor can do that. Let it stick to still photography. 4x zoom OR smaller size (I doubt both can be achieved with the same optical quality) are likely someday in F20.

theranman said:

SD card

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Fuji and Olympus use XD cards. They will not switch to SD. Period.

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Pooch: do me a favor. Show a me a pic shot with your F11 that someone cannot shoot with an F10. Several posts I've seen you claim that you are shooting great shots with your manual controls, lets check em out.

F11 from Time2Envy = 376.00 shipped... unless your picking it up yourself.

F10 price from Pricegrabber = 269.00... best price with shipping.

Local retailer w/ mail in rebate on F10 = 245.00

376-245 = $131/2 = Approx. $65 per Ap and Shutter mode... I'm not convinced the metering allows better pictures, but I'm open to being corrected.

I don't spend $350 for a grey market cam... not until someone tests one of these warranties they have, be they a 3rd party or a local repair center.

I'm thinking the F10/F11 is on its way out, but we shall see.

Mind Expansi0n said:

Pooch: do me a favor. Show a me a pic shot with your F11 that
someone cannot shoot with an F10. Several posts I've seen you
claim that you are shooting great shots with your manual controls,
lets check em out.

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I have never claimed I am shooting great shots, I dont speak with that type of egotistical additude. I am an ameture and I am new to digital, comming from a canon A1, with primes only, your welcome to go look at my photos the link is in my signature, but as far as me claiming great shots, it never happened, you made it up. I will claim and I have claimed, that I have seen excellent results with the F11 & F10 it on this forum and have said so in other forums.

Lastly, the pics that you can take with the F11 that you cannot with the F10 are the ones that use shutter and appeture priority, you cant choose to blure from shutter speed, your F10 you have to really get lucky with the F10, you have no control over shuter speed, except thru the back door by changing ISO and you can not direct an apeture number with your F10. Now how much difference this makes, is problaby marginal as the small size of the lens is never going to give blurred backgrounds wide open for instance in a macro shot. But the fact is the F11 has some control over this that F10 does not. Sorry its just a fact! If you think I have knocked the F10, you again are mistaken, I would rather have the F11, and said so, due to the small amount of addtional control, and since it is quite easy to obtain and F11, I see no reason to buy an F10 anymore. No matter how hard you look at your LCD screen on the F10, you will never see the pixels on the F11 LCD, is that the end of the world, no its a choice, I choose F11.

Furthermore its my opinion/theory based upon my converstaion with Fuji, that the F10 will be phased out and the F11 will be left. I see no reason for the F10 anymore, the F11 is a little better! My opinion! A professional photographer can make better pictures then me with a pin hole camera......That make me no less proud of my growth in my own photography, which is a work in progress!
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