Samsung's new DSLR GX-1L

I'm sure there others but some Pentax P&S were sold under the HP moniker. If at first you don't succeed...........
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Schneider or schnitz from sheepshead or Schafkopf ???
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Not the name but the sensor !!!

So far Samsung sensors are pure Cr*p and their camera body designs aren't much better either.

I just hope they add the electronics and let Pentax design the body and let Pentax use the chip that is best.

wll

Godfrey said:

John,

I've been doing photography for 40+ years. The brand name "Pentax"
has been, variously, "Asahi Pentax", "Honeywell Pentax" and
"Pentax". What did it mean to me? "Small size, nice lenses."

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Yes, I had a Honeywell H1a. But the run under the Pentax name was a very good one, and the respect and acceptance of the Pentax MF products by the pro community was strong. But, those days are gone, hence this business deal.

Godfrey said:

For Pentax to survive, they need to make money. If brand
recognition becomes all they have to trade on, they will soon
afterwards not be making much money. The deal with Samsung might
make them a good bit of money.

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I do not dispute that. Nevertheless, it represents a reduction in the value of their name.
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racehorse in the desert said:

How quickly everyone has forgotten what the Pentax name used to
mean!

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Did it ever mean much?

I thought it was just one of the 'Big 5' Japanese manufacturers... pretty much on a par with Oly/Minolta/Canon etc: sitting slightly behind Nikon and several rungs below Leica and Contax in the 'pecking-order'

I'm not so bothered about Pentax allowing their products to carry the 'Samsung' label... what would worry me more would be Samsung products carrying the 'Pentax' label! ;-)

Mind you... 'better Samsung than the rapidly-declining Sony', to coin a phrase... poor KM!

Regards

I didn't see this photo in the site and haven't heard it mentioned in the thread yet, but here's a photo of the above-mentioned lens.

http://snipurl.com/l0hd

Jinwoo Lee said:

The name is GX-1L
And, pretty much the same as *ist DL, nothing spectacular
According to Samsung, they prefer "conservative approach entering
DSLR market"

That is all I heard

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At least one of the pictures on your posted link looks fake to me. The "GX-1" that the woman is holding is obviously not a DL clone.

Darrell

That is Samsung's old film SLR, that is called GX-1 no L on the end.

Saw it in the news forum area.

Which is why some people there, thinks it is a hoax.

John
Iowa

I am skeptical of the whole "this is the new Samsung DSLR" hoopla, when all we have to go on are a few pics that are not on official Samsung nor Pentax websites.

The differences between this alleged new DSLR and the *ist-DS/DL are so slight (which is precisely why I believe that they are photoshopped) that I'm not inclined to believe any of it until I see it officialy launched and reviewed.

I remeber all of the hoopla last year over the photoshopped pics of Nikon and Canon DSLR cameras that proported to be the next "big thing" and were revealed to be fake .

Please don't make yourself look foolish by falling over yourself in proclaiming the greatness of what is yet to be proved.

Take care.

Pentax and Samsung will develop and make the cameras together. The first one will be based upon a current model (anad this one is discussed here), simply because they hadn't enough time to do more. The internal electronics will be different from the DL. The other DSLR's released from them will share much of the same internals and under-the-shell-body structure, but exterior will differ more and they will also differ in features so they target different markets. Samsung will be more point'n-shoot with more scene modes, while Pentax will go for flexibility for the creative and advanced photographer.

I haven't seen the Nikon/Fuji bodies hurting the Nikon brand, so I don't believe this partnership with Samsung will hurt the Pentax brand - on the contrary I say. Pentax frees resources they can spend on developing high-end pro bodies, while Samsung r&d team will helping out with the the low-end bodies. I see this as a win-win situation for both makers.

It's good synergi.

Take care*

Don't worry, Pentax has the expertise in body design and ergonomics, and they will help Samsung getting a film-like image processing from the Samsung provided chips. We will not see a truly Samsung designed body (but probably a Samsung desgined variation on an original Pentax design).

Take care*

wll said:

Not the name but the sensor !!!

So far Samsung sensors are pure Cr*p and their camera body designs
aren't much better either.

I just hope they add the electronics and let Pentax design the body
and let Pentax use the chip that is best.

wll

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The official statement from Pentax and Samsung said - that the first release would be based upon an existing body but with new internals. Those photos are in line with this official statement.

The second release will be a new design.

Take care*

dj_nme said:

I am skeptical of the whole "this is the new Samsung DSLR" hoopla,
when all we have to go on are a few pics that are not on official
Samsung nor Pentax websites.
The differences between this alleged new DSLR and the *ist-DS/DL
are so slight (which is precisely why I believe that they are
photoshopped) that I'm not inclined to believe any of it until I
see it officialy launched and reviewed.
I remeber all of the hoopla last year over the photoshopped pics of
Nikon and Canon DSLR cameras that proported to be the next "big
thing" and were revealed to be fake .

Please don't make yourself look foolish by falling over yourself in
proclaiming the greatness of what is yet to be proved.

Take care.

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Mmm... a FA 50 f/1.4 under a new name...

I don't like this approach. Why selling the same lens for the same mount under different names? I can understand that Samsung wants to use the Schneider name on the included kit lens, but going for other lenses too... Nah, nah, nah...

I would welcome Schneider lenses for the Pentax mount, but original designed Schneider lenses to complement Pentax own. Not the same lens under two names...

Take care*

People are saying that these images are a hoax, that they are just photoshoped, well, in my opinion, it seems to be too clean for a photoshop job, the differences though suttle are of such that they would be hard and very time consuming to do, but then i agin, i could be proven wrong.
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for the first year, both Pentax and Samsung have announced co-developed bodies sold under different brand names.

Herb...

pic_ist said:

I do think that Samsung and Pentax will have different bodies in
the future but I have a very strong feeling that they will share
the lens mount. I see this relationship ending up very similar to
the Nikon / Fuji one.

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Cypress sensor makes no sense. why bother partnering with Samsung then?

Herb...

this is how Pentax P&S digicams work.

Herb...

it is a little under 3% and at best holding steady. when the *istDL and Olympus E500 were announced, they were significantly cheaper than any other entry body. within the industry, these cameras were widely seen as an attempt by Pentax and Olympus to start a price war and gain market share. guess what? the average price of DSLRs sold went up. zero effect. conclusion? Pentax and Olympus have negligible brand drawing power.

Herb...

Samsung only makes small sensors, they don't have an APS C sized sensor yet. Sensor wasn't the key reason for Pentax and Samsung to join forces, even if Samsung is likely to come out with an APS C sized sensor (but not yet).

Since it's hard to earn money on compact digicams, and the DSLR market is more profitable - Samsung wanted to have a DSLR and they found Pentax to be the perfect partner for this. Pentax has a mount and many lenses available for it. If Samsung had released a DSLR with their own mount, then they surely would have failed on the market. Olympus could survive because their mount is an open standard, adopted by many makers (even if not all of them has released products for it yet). Pentax also has an expertise in designing ergonomic and user friendly DSLR/SLR's, an expertise that Samsung lacks.

From Pentax point of view, Samsung is a leading manufacturer of electronics. A DSLR uses more electronics than the sensor. The built-in image processing needs a processor, the autofocus and metering system also needs a processor, it needs memory chips for buffering the images and so on and so on. Samsung can provide all electronics - except the sensor - to Pentax.

One of the major reasons for this partnership, was the synergies between Samsung and Pentax. They have expertise in different fields, so their r&d department could complement each other. R&d cost much money, money that the large and profitable Samsung can provide. For the highly competetive DSLR market, it is neccessary for Pentax to release more DSLR's, and Pentax didn't have enough r&d resources to do that by themselves - so they needed a partner that could help them speeding up the r&d so they could release more DSLR's. Samsung is this partner.

Take care*

Cideway said:

People are saying that these images are a hoax, that they are just
photoshoped, well, in my opinion, it seems to be too clean for a
photoshop job, the differences though suttle are of such that they
would be hard and very time consuming to do, but then i agin, i
could be proven wrong.

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There were a lot of hoax claims about leaked images of the 5D and D200 before they were released, so I'm betting that they're real.

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