E900 does new firmware gonna improve quality

i have read that fuji is doing al kinds of tricks with it's pixels like turning a 6mp into a 12mp.

knowing this i think it should be possible to improve noise quality at high iso to make it comparable to the F10

is this a correct assumption?

also regarding the low light environment i can tell you that the E900 works very good.

at night i can take pictures at iso 200 without using the flash when i am in my livingroom(and no i do not have extensive lights on)

when i use the flashlight the photo's are so bright that you can not ell the difference between a daylightshot or an eveningshot.

personally i like the natural light option a lot bu this option switches to high iso(400 or 800)

people should try to put the camera at a fixed isi 200 and put the camera on auto. works beautifully.

If it happens well and good, but you got a serious package in the E900 as it stands!

If you listen to what you just said "you can shoot in your living room at IS0 200"...is it really that important to have a grainy ISO1600. While it would be handy in some situations, it's not the end of the world if you don't!
Just keep snapping and enjoy!
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Cheers,
Packy

you are right i guess.

my point however was not to increase iso but to reduce noise in higher iso(and therefor lower noise at isi 200)

since i just bought the camera and did not have much time to play around wth it during daytime(sunset overhere is at 16:00)

i wil test some things in the weekend.

one other interesting fact i like to check out is de difference in quality bewtween 9mp fine picture cropped and 3mp noncropped but with digital zoom to get the same size.

it seems ilogical to do this(why not shoot at 9mp fine and then use digital zoom)

There's no difference in real world shots at those ISO's....you'd need a microscope to find differences at that speed.
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Cheers,
Packy

RonaldZ said:

i have read that fuji is doing al kinds of tricks with it's pixels
like turning a 6mp into a 12mp.
knowing this i think it should be possible to improve noise quality
at high iso to make it comparable to the F10
is this a correct assumption?

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No ... more pixels is not actually helpful in this area for the E900 and S9000. Less works better if the sensor size is basically the same (which is true when comparing the E900/S9000 sensor to the F10 sensor.)

RonaldZ said:

also regarding the low light environment i can tell you that the
E900 works very good.
at night i can take pictures at iso 200 without using the flash
when i am in my livingroom(and no i do not have extensive lights on)

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I shot a series of pictures at 1600 ISO at a party where the living room was lit by a couple of incandescent bulbs widely separated. 200 ISO would have given me 1 or 2 second exposures and no chance at all of getting any non-flash pics. Sometimes you need the real deal.

packy said:

If it happens well and good, but you got a serious package in the
E900 as it stands!
If you listen to what you just said "you can shoot in your living
room at IS0 200"...is it really that important to have a grainy
ISO1600. While it would be handy in some situations, it's not the
end of the world if you don't!

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You keep beating the "grainy 1600ISO" drum and trying to convince everyone that the E900 is just as good as the F10 and F11 to all intents and purposes.

But that is just not true. Read the reviews, because even the S9000 is not as good at high ISO, and the E900 is using basically the same internal setup and does not even try to offer 1600 ISO. Here is an example from the S9000Z review on this site:

"Compared to the FZ30 and the Samsung Pro 815 the S9000's chroma noise is admirably low in the 'standard' (up to ISO 400) part of the graph, though as mentioned above, ISO 800 and 1600 are only low-ish because of heavy noise reduction. Anyone hoping for FinePix F10-like performance will be disappointed by the S9000's high ISO output."

The 800ISO shots you posted look very nice ... but my guess is that 100% crops from the two cameras, all things being equal, would show a difference in retained detail and noise artifacts.

I'm not saying that the E900 is anything but a superior camera, because it is.