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I am having the same problems. I also have calibrated my monitor with Eye-One 2 and the dark prints was fixed by using a calibrated profile for my printer, however the skin tones are not correct when printed. On screen the images are perfect, but when printed the skin tones look too blue (or cyan/greenish). You had a yellow cast and I seem to have a blue one.

What is going on here? Any solutions to this?
 
I'm sorry to say, my issue isn't getting better. I've just tried the R1800 profiles from the Epson site and the prints did not improve. I don't get it. I hear how good this printer can be. I'm still thinking this is a XP SP2 problem. But that is a guess.
 
meerkat said:
After current 870 ink and dye
based specfic paper (colorlife) stock are consumed, I will have to
face the same reality check with my R800, which has not been
opened since I ordered months ago.
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Finally I used up all my 870 ink.

My first attempt with R800 with Epson luster paper is pretty much matched my monitor (so was the case for my Epson 870 days).

So why people experience dark print using right procedure is still a mystery for ME. I'll try PGPP later
 
Well, I decided to buy a scanner and use the Monaco OptixXR, EZColor and DC color to try to calibrate my monitor and create profiles for all of my devices. However, the scanner I received (4990 Epson) from Buy.com was opened (and I suspect returned), so I am waiting for them to send me a new one. In the meantime, I am beginning to question my decison to go with the Monaco suite versus using Eye-One Photo Enhanced Version or Eye-one Design. Does anyone have any thoughts on what the major differences are between the two Eye-One products and whether its worth the extra expense of using them over the Monaco suite I was originally going to use. It seems like I need this type of software anyway to print all of my photos and scans, but I must admit I did not think I was going to have to spend so much on software when I bought this dang printer.
 
It doesn't appear to me you are doing anything wrong. I do the same with my R1800 and while my color balance is good, the prints are way too dark. We are not alone, it seems to be a common problem. You could be right, it could be SP2, I run PS7, so it isn't just a CS, CS2 issue.

Epson supposedly just announced improved paper profiles for the R1800, but I am trying to verify if they are indeed, new, or someone just found something older without a date.

As I only do a few types of papers, I'm trying Cathy's Profiles. I just sent in for my first one and am waiting to see how it does. Everyone seems to agree the custom profile is the way to go, and at $40/profile, it's alot cheaper than buying the equipment to do your own.
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Baywing said:
It doesn't appear to me you are doing anything wrong. I do the
same with my R1800 and while my color balance is good, the prints
are way too dark. We are not alone, it seems to be a common
problem. You could be right, it could be SP2, I run PS7, so it
isn't just a CS, CS2 issue.
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Epson printers usually print darker with ICM turned off. You could try turning on "color controls", gamma 1.8, Adobe RGB, and sliders set to 0.
Baywing said:
Epson supposedly just announced improved paper profiles for the
R1800, but I am trying to verify if they are indeed, new, or
someone just found something older without a date.
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If you go to the R1800 download section you will find the "new" profiles were posted in April.
td
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That's what I'm thinking, but Rob Galbraith's site reported new profiles, and Epson's announcement center doesn't have a date. I am already using the 4/05 profiles, which I'm thinking are the most recent. I'm waiting on confirmation from Epson.
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'I may not know much about art, but I know what I like' John Cleese, Monty Python
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I have been using the R800 and never had a problem with prints being too dark. My operating system is XP and I use Epson Premium Gloss paper. And then, I "upgraded" from Paint Shop Pro 9 to Paint Shop Pro X and at about the same time installed 3 new ink cartridges. Yesterday, I printed some photos and they were all much too dark. I have read this thread with interest and attempted to download the new drivers from the Epson web site and attempted to follow their instructions on deleting the old print drivers. My computer would not allow me to do so, giving me the message that the drivers were being used (Huh?). So I went into the

Change/Remove window and removed the R800 software, then installed the new drivers--I thought. When I check system32/spool/drivers/color, the old drivers are apparently still there, and the new drivers are no where to be seen. I finally did a system restore to the point before I downloaded the new drivers.

Worse, when I click print for a photo and attempt to use "best photo" setting, then back to the print window, it automatically changes to "photo". Egads!

Which makes me wonder: is it the new ink cartridges, Paint Shop Pro X, or has my computer really got it in for me? Have any other Paint Shop Pro users had this problem?

Fischer
 
According to Epson, they have not updated any R1800 paper profiles since 4/05. The info posted at Galbraith's site appears to be the older announcement when those profiles were released. The announcement on Epson's web site does not have a date, jeers to Epson for not dating releases.
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'I may not know much about art, but I know what I like' John Cleese, Monty Python
http://www.pbase.com/baywing
 
Try completely uninstalling the printer. Use the add/remove program feature, then the search files for all files labelled Epson, removing them. Before you do all this, be sure the printer is not connected to the computer. When done, start from scratch, installing the printer as if it were new only using the new drivers and profiles. You have to do the drivers first, be sure you have the correct ones downloaded.
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'I may not know much about art, but I know what I like' John Cleese, Monty Python
http://www.pbase.com/baywing
 
At last i've found people with the same problem that is driving me insane.

I too have an R800 printer and for the life of me i cannot get good quality prints, especially greyscale images. They too have a yellow tint as if colour is being used. I have done exactly as Epson advised but to no avail. Am at my wits end.. I am using photoshop Cs on an ibook G4 Mac. My colour pictures too are vivid and dark. I have a C64 printer also and have switched to that as it prints good quality pictures with so much ease....ah...but of course the R800 is supposed to far superior with all it's colours. I am relatively good with my mac but all this profile talk etc is a bit confusing. do you have any ideas what else i can try....under colour management in photoshop are the imbedded profiles supposed to be turned off (as Epson support suggested) or preserved embedded profiles? I have tried both ways and nothing happens.

Not sure what you all mean by calibrating the monitor....did do it using the computers but what should it be set to colour LCD calibrated monitor or Adobe RGB (1988)?

If anyone has any ideas i'd really appreciate it.
thanks
Nikki
 
At last i've found people with the same problem that is driving me insane.

I too have an R800 printer and for the life of me i cannot get good quality prints, especially greyscale images. They too have a yellow tint as if colour is being used. I have done exactly the same things as Joe Herth seems to have done but to no avail. Am at my wits end.. I am using photoshop CCs on an ibook G4 Mac. My colour pictures too are vivid and dark. I have a C64 printer also and have switched to that as it prints good quality pictures with so much ease....ah...but of course the R800 is supposed to far superior with all it's colours. I am relatively good with my mac but all this profile talk etc is a bit confusing. do you have any ideas what else i can try....under colour management in photoshop are the imbedded profiles supposed to be turned off (as Epson support suggested) or preserved embedded profiles? I have tried both ways and nothing happens.

Not sure what you all mean by calibrating the monitor....did do it using the computers but what should it be set to colour LCD calibrated monitor or Adobe RGB (1988)?

If anyone has any ideas i'd really appreciate it.
thanks
Nikki
Joe Herth said:
What am I doing wrong?

I have a R800 printer and use PS CS2 for editing and printing. If
I turn ON color management in PS and off Color Management in the
printer dialogue box, I’m getting prints that are too dark and have
a yellowish cast, which sounds like the type of print you get when
someone is double color managing. Unfortunately, I’m resorting to
turning off Photoshop’s color management and using Epson’s photo
Enhance color management and getting ok prints but not what I
expect out of this printer. Printing this way, skin tones are
bluish and colors in general are not vivid. I just have a feeling
I am somehow double managing my color and don’t know how to correct
it. Could windows XP SP2 be doing something behind the scenes on
me that could be causing my frustrations? I have to admit, after
having this printer for a year, I’m just about to throw it out the
window.

To recap how I print:
In PS CS2, I select print with preview, Color Management is set to
Document, and color Handling is set to Let PS determine Colors,
printer profile set to SPR800 EnhMtte BstPhoto icc (or the type of
Epson paper I’m using), and rendering intent is Relative
Colorimetric.

In Epson Stylus Photo R800 Properties box:
Paper & Quality Options, I select Enhanced Matte Paper (or the type
of Epson paper I’m using) quality is photo, High speed and edge
smoothing is turned off, color management is ICM and this is turned
off (no color adjustment).

I have a calibrated Dell LCD monitor and have verified with Epson
that I am running on the latest updates.

I’m sure, I’m probably leaving some vital info out, so please don’t
hesitate to ask. I’m getting pretty frustrated in the prints and
need some help.

Thanks
Joe
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if anybody still looking for the answer to this think i might have found it..

1. go into printers and faxes and delete the printer

2. whilst still in printer and faxes select file, then server properties

3. select the driver tab and pick the driver and remove, this clears out all of the driver files that where lingering in windows.

4. then just install the new drivers. and everything should be working

I spend ages looking at this and was nearly ready to give and buy a new printer, but at the last minute i tried this and now my photos are printing out great. hopefully this will be of some use to somebody
 
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