Lens suggestions for 5D?

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I'm about to buy a 5D, but am having difficulties deciding on lens combination (I have no Canon lenses so far). I am fairly new to photography but love it so much that I want to become professional at some stage, hence want to get good quality from start. I still want to practice in all fields esp. landscape, wildlife, travel and portrait before specialising. I have a Sony 828 and although I love it, certain infuriating features as well as wanting to work with an SLR with different lenses make me feel I'm ready to move on. Any pointers in what to do? I have about £1000 ($1700) for lens(es).
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Steve
 
Canon EF 24-70mm f/2.8L USM or EF 24-105 f/4L IS USM.

Any one of these should give you excellent quality and a good working range (from wideangle to short telephoto).

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Luciano Oliveira
 
...if you can. If you are fortunate to be convenient to a camera shop that rents lenses then do it. I can't say enough about it. For $25-$35 I can rent any one of a bunch of $1,000+ lenses for the whole weekend. It's a great way to try a lens before you buy it. The place I go to will even ship the rented lens to you (at additional cost, of course).

Of course, this could also get you in trouble! I rented a 24-70L and loved it so much I turned around and bought a new one. I'm renting the 70-200L IS this weekend and I'm very afraid of what might happen.

Jan
 
If you like zooms, based on US prices you could buy a 25-105 f4 and 70-200 f4 for your budget....... or at least very close to it.
 
Get a 70-200/4 - love it, then one day really need f2.8, feel dissatisfied, buy a 70-200/2.8. Later feel the need of IS and upgrade to the IS version.

Also get the 24-105/4 - love it, then one day really need something faster, get a 24/2.8, 50/1.4 (preferably a Zeiss), plus an 85/1.8. But keep the IS zoom.

Then one day see what an 85/1.2 can do, feel dissatisfied with the 85/1.8 and upgrade to the L version.

Also notice how abysmal the 24/2.8 is, and upgrade to the L. Then one day really need something wider than the 24/1.4 and feel dissatisfied. Look around confusedly. Test some bad Canon zoom lenses and feel dissatisfied some more. Someone shows you a Zeiss 21 and you buy it becuase it makes your work look wonderful. But feel a bit dissatisfied with the waveform distortion.

Then one day you make the mistake of trying a 135/2 and of course you have to have that.

Then one day you need something longer than the 200/2.8 IS and you buy the 300/4, but it doesn't have IS, so you upgrade to the 300/4 IS.

Then you find that you're not using the 70-200/IS much because it's so big and heavy, so you buy a 70-200/4 because it now seems so light and sharp. And you sell the Zeiss 21, too, because it's worth so much money now, and it doesn't render straight lines. And someone tells you that the 300/4 non IS is much sharper than the 300/4 and you're not sure whether to believe them, but it makes you feel slightly dissatisfied with the IS version.

Then you think: wouldn't it be great if I could sell all this junk and just buy one really great long, fast zoom lens? And you look hard at the Sigma 120-300 f2.8 and you try it but it's too heavy and that makes you feel dissatisfied.

So you look at the 100-400IS and you think: that's the answer to all my problems! But you try it and you find it's not very sharp and that makes you feel dissatisfied, so you get a Sigma 100-300m f4 and it's great! And you use it a lot but eventually it makes your arms tired and it's soft at the long end and it doesn't have IS and that makes you feel dissatisfied.

Then one day you have to do a shoot in the rain, and you worry about your 5D because it's not weatherproof (and that makes you feel dissatisfied) so you try the 1Ds II and it's GREAT. And then you find that none of your wide angle lenses are sharp in the corners and you wish you hadn't sold your Zeiss 21mm and that makes you feel dissatisfied.

So you sell everything, go on holiday, come back and buy a 350D with the 17-85IS lens and find that it does almost everything you need it to do anyway, except the viewfinder is rubblish (and guess how that makes you feel?) and it's a bit flimsy, and then you start to think the long end isnt long enough and then someone tells you that the Sigma 18-50/2.8 is a lot sharper, or the Tamron 28-75mm and you read all these posts praying for Canon to release the new lightweight full frame 17-300mm f2.8 L IS but that just makes you feel dissatisfied becuase it turns out to be just a rumour, and then you decide to take up painting.
 
Money > sense?

Sorry but to START with a 5D seems pretty silly to me.

And then to only have (as a lens budget) half the value of the camera seems even more silly.

From what (little) I've seen and read, it's the lenses where the money should be spent. A moderate camera can give great results with decent lenses; a great camera could be severely hampered by average lenses.

I have also heard (and the DPR review of the 5D also states this) that the 5D really does need to top class lenses to show it's best.

So why bother?

Why not get a 20D for say £800? That would give you something like £1500 EXTRA for lenses - £2500 will buy you some superb lenses that you could end up keeping for years.

I've just got hold of an old Canon 80-200 F2.8L and the results I'm getting on a humble 350d are looking good so far.

I just think your 2.5:1 ratio of camera to lens value is the wrong way round....
 
I would advise you to start with the Canon 28-135 f3.5:5.6. While it's not absolutely the best quality, I think it is quite close to "L" quality and a very useful range. You can pick one up for about £350. Also when you get your 5D you will find a book of cashback vouchers in the box and there's one for the 28-135 that gets you £35 from Canon.

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Nick Spurrrier
 
Sadly, I'm not too far behind. Thank G-d for ebay so at least I can get a few $$ each time I feel dissatisfied ;-)
 
I still
want to practice in all fields esp. landscape, wildlife, travel and
portrait before specialising.> --
Steve
For landscape, most travel and portrait you likely need wide angle to moderate tele. For this, the new 24-105 IS f/4 is a good start. If you decide you don't need quite as much reach, or if you want an extra stop for more shooting flexibility, the 24-70 f/2.8 is also an excellent choice.

For wildlife, you likely need a fairly long tele zoom. On my 20D, the 70-200 f/4 was very nice as it had the effective reach of a 320mm lens. However, on a 5D, this is not likely to be long enough. Getting a decent zoom longer than 200mm might run into some money, so you may want to postpone this portion of your shooting until your budget improves. One interesting combination is the 70-200 f/2.8 (Canon or one of the other brands that test well) along with a 1.4x teleconverter. This gets you to the equivalent of 280mm at f/4 and may be less expensive than a true zoom that goes up to 300mm at f/4.

Ira
 
Wow! lots of ideas. Interesting point regards spending more money on lens than camera,. Plenty to think about! Cheers.
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Steve
 

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