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Does anybody have any idea what type of Consumer level cameras will be announced by Canon at PMA in February?

I'm hoping for a replacement for the D20 with a full 35mm CMOS sensor.

thanks.
 
D20 with a full 35mm CMOS sensor is called 5D. You can buy it now.
Walter Blackledge said:
Does anybody have any idea what type of Consumer level cameras will
be announced by Canon at PMA in February?

I'm hoping for a replacement for the D20 with a full 35mm CMOS sensor.

thanks.
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Looking back on the DSLRs that Canon has pushed out, the strategy seems to be this.

Model A : for ~$8K

Four to Six months later Model B with almost same features as Model A for ~$4K

Four to Six months later Model C with almost same features as Model B for ~$1500

Four to Six months later Model A2 with New features For ~$8K and
Model D with almost Same features as Model C for ~$1000

Four to Six Months later Model B2 with almost the Same features as Model A2 for ~$4K

And So on and So on ..... then the cycle repeats itself.
 
I am sorry, I got completely lost in the letters and numbers. Can you translate it into actual model numbers and tell me why it implies that Canon would abandon its APS line?

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hobster
 
Its just a marketing cycle that is offset every four to six months with a new DSLR and every 18 months or so the DSLR in question is replaced with a new model.

I'm not saying I'm right, I'm just going by the timeline of what I've seen in the past 4 years or so.

February would be about 6 months from when the last two were announced and the D20 is getting a little old and if the cycle holds there would should a replacement (A new camera in the same price range) for it.

So to answer your question, look at the Nikon D70 and D70s. Why would you buy a D70s? I have no idea, there isn't much difference between the two and as a result their sales are off on the D70s.

A company has to give you enough to upgrade or replace the existing item.

If canon only offers a few more megapixels, I don't think too many people are going to rush out and buy the new camera.

I could be way off, I guess we'll have to wait until Feb to find out.

thanks.
 
I understand that there is a good likelihood that 20D will be superceded by 30D, I just seriously doubt it will be full-frame. I don't see a point in it. Canon already has a mid-line with FF, the 5D. When that one gets updated, it will be FF.

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hobster
 
What's wrong with 5D? BTW, if you have been using the 20D, I hope you spell Canon the right way.

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Speed is significant and interesting but accuracy is downright fascinating
http://www.pbase.com/pradipta
 
While I have no information regarding PMA, I believe that the Sony R1 is not a one-off camera, but a throwing down of the gauntlet for the major manufacturers. There really is no technical reason why APS sized (or even full frame) sensors can't be in small bodies.

With the recent announcement of the cheap to produce Cypress 9mp CMOS chip, and production costs generally falling for larger sensors, look for a host of fixed-lens, APS-sized sensor cameras. Perhaps the Canon Pro2 or G7.

Aron
Walter Blackledge said:
Does anybody have any idea what type of Consumer level cameras will
be announced by Canon at PMA in February?

I'm hoping for a replacement for the D20 with a full 35mm CMOS sensor.

thanks.
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HaplessClick said:
HaplessClick wrote:
There really is no technical reason why
APS sized (or even full frame) sensors can't be in small bodies.
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That's totally wrong. The main technical limitation is that when you put a bigger sensor, you need more glass - lenses with larger diameter compared to what you would need when you are using the regular tiny sensors that typically in use in the P&S cameras.

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Speed is significant and interesting but accuracy is downright fascinating
http://www.pbase.com/pradipta
 
Except if Canon will introduce entry-level FF line like in APS-C segment before. Something like Rebel FF. Like simplified/stripped EOS-5D priced near Nikon D200!
 
Nothing wronf with 5D, except Canon is very probably will want to make its FF line complete. That means entry level FF also. With current FF sensor price, the only way to do that is providing stripped down version of 5D a la Rebell FF for ½ price, on the same price line with Nikon D200. Maybe Phil have to compare those sooner than we thought ;-)
 
Not totally. FF is for sure the possibility. You only'll have to unglue the all-in-one lens off the body. Lens mount as in DSLR.
 
That would certainly be nice if somewhat unlikely due to cost. However, Canon will not kill the APS-sized line.

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hobster
 
Somewhat true, but what's so magic about FF? It's just another carryover from the now gone 35mm film format and is kept alive because SLR companies have the lens designs for this format. As sensor technology develops we will see smaller sensors, perhaps no larger than APS size, with high ISO sensitivity, low noise and able to feed a continuous image to a high resolution, rapid response electronic viewfinder. We are not too far away with the R1-type sensor and the SED displays. No need for FF DSLRs except to keep the current DSLR companies happy.

--mamallama
Pradipta Dutta said:
That's totally wrong. The main technical limitation is that when
you put a bigger sensor, you need more glass - lenses with larger
diameter compared to what you would need when you are using the
regular tiny sensors that typically in use in the P&S cameras.

--
Speed is significant and interesting but accuracy is downright
fascinating
http://www.pbase.com/pradipta
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mamallama,
you are right.

'....23.3-mm x 15.5-mm2 with a diagonal dimension of 28-mm, resulting in an effective focal length multiplier of 1.5 compared to a full frame 35-mm camera. The aspect ratio is 3:2. The devices are capable of delivering five frames-per-second (fps) at full resolution and 20 fps at VGA resolution.'

http://www.cypress.com/portal/server.pt?space=CommunityPage&control=SetCommunity&CommunityID=208&PageID=218&DirectoryID=685633

Regards, Guenter
mamallama said:
--mamallama
Pradipta Dutta said:
That's totally wrong. The main technical limitation is that when
you put a bigger sensor, you need more glass - lenses with larger
diameter compared to what you would need when you are using the
regular tiny sensors that typically in use in the P&S cameras.

--
Speed is significant and interesting but accuracy is downright
fascinating
http://www.pbase.com/pradipta "
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