D200 NEF -- Encrypted?

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With the (literal) flood of D200 info being tossed around the net, I think I've missed out on an important point (and if any of those who have actually played with the camera can chime in, it would be appreciated)...

Does anyone know if the D200 shoots with encrypted NEF like the D2x?
 
I'm sure it does, as I believe it uses the new "preconditioning" white-balance support just like the D2x. But I wouldn't be too worried about this issue, Nikon has already caved and ACR 3.2 fully supports the D2x.

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Jeff Kohn
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Jeff,

Caving(or doing the right thing) would be documeting the encryption or undoing it. Providing a Mini-SDK as they have done is better termed a small step in the right directio, but still a small one. (SDK is mac/Windows only, isn't gaurenteed to be supported in the future etc).

Eric
 
I'm sure it does, as I believe it uses the new "preconditioning"
white-balance support just like the D2x. But I wouldn't be too
worried about this issue, Nikon has already caved and ACR 3.2 fully
supports the D2x.
Well, I hope that they haven't encrypted the NEF. The Adobe support issue is nice, but as one other user once said, I don't want to be forced into updating PS because the only available D200 NEF support requires PS-CS3 to work -- do you know what I mean? My wallet wouldn't stand the strain!

Peter
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Jeff, to add to what Eric said, there are couple of places in current NEF format which are reserved (one of them is closely related to white balance) what is it, and how to use it will take time and effort that can be spent better. This is not to mention that encoding can be changed any moment, and that format can be modified once more.

Of course Nikon prouds themselves in 25 years of software development, and they have high expectations of Nikon Capture 5 to come soon. But look at this, for example. I use dSLRs from 3 companies, and maybe will add 1 more. I really want one converter for all of them. For a service bureau it becomes a nightmare in terms of personnel training to use multiple converters. "Our preferred raw converter does not support NEF, we can't guarantee good quality of the prints"; "we have much betterhighlights from Canon cameras through Converter X then from D2X through Nikon Capture" are strong messages to customers, believe me. Russia was strongly pro-Nikon before digital (because of historical reasons). When ACR lacked full NEF support, second-market prices for high-level Nikkors dropped in Russia 20% approximately.

We expect improvements in digital cameras, but converters also are improving. Making an unreadable format Nikon ties the quality of the camera to the quality of Nikon Capture. But there are algorithms that produce sharper output, with less noise and less artifacts/moire then the algorithm used in Nikon Capture. There are methods o pre-processing that allow to extract much more details from highlights then Nikon Capture. Making camera quality to depend on Nikon Capture is essentially crippling the camera, s many Nikon Capture users do not even know what their cameras are capable of.

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Julia
 
Could you provide more detail on the software/methods for extracting greater highlight detail from NEFs than NC?
 
OK, all of the camera companies use binary files and they are not created to any standard. So, I guess you could say they are encrypted if they keep it proprietary or actually use data encryption for all or part of the data.

If they make their file definition available to other developers, it's not encrypted.
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Scott
 
OK, maybe I oversimplified a bit. Of course it would be nice if Nikon fully documented their format, but I'm not expecting it to happen anytime soon (I don't think anybody else does this either). In the meantime I can work with ACR 3.2 so for the moment I'm happy with the situation from a practical standpoint even if I'm not entirely happy from a philosophical standpoint. :-)

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Jeff Kohn
Houston, TX
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