No USB what to do?

Bert M · Sep 26, 2001

OK, now that I have ordered my first digital camera (Dark Angel) How will i be able to d/l my images to my computer? I have a dinosaur of a PC ( an original PII-200) , I will be getting a new one soon, but what do I do in the meantime?

Is buying a MemoryStick floppy adapter the only/best solution? Anyone have a good workaround til my new PC arrives?

--Bert C=

Andy58717 · Sep 26, 2001

The floppy adapter is very slow and the F707 files can be quite large. In my opinion, having a reasonably fast computer is a prerequisite to a having a good digital camera (not only for USB, but to view and edit the pictures at a reasonable speed).

Bert M said:
OK, now that I have ordered my first digital camera (Dark Angel)
How will i be able to d/l my images to my computer? I have a
dinosaur of a PC ( an original PII-200) , I will be getting a new
one soon, but what do I do in the meantime?

Is buying a MemoryStick floppy adapter the only/best solution?
Anyone have a good workaround til my new PC arrives?

--
Bert C=

Marty Scher B · Sep 26, 2001

What a shame but true, that a 3-4 year old PC is a "dinosaur"

Depending on what OS you are running (Win95 OSR/Win98), you should be able to install a USB card into an expansion slot. I think the PII era started to see some USB integration.

It should be better than the floppy adapter until the new system comes along.

Good luck

Bert M said:
OK, now that I have ordered my first digital camera (Dark Angel)
How will i be able to d/l my images to my computer? I have a
dinosaur of a PC ( an original PII-200) , I will be getting a new
one soon, but what do I do in the meantime?

Is buying a MemoryStick floppy adapter the only/best solution?
Anyone have a good workaround til my new PC arrives?

--
Bert C=

FRiC · Sep 26, 2001

The USB standard was pretty much finalized by 1996, so your board may have USB support even if it doesn't have USB ports, if the board isn't ATX form factor. Also since Windows 95 (and other OS's) at the time didn't have USB support, so often USB is overlooked. Check your motherboard manuals, you may be able to simply get a USB bracket for it.

Or you can just get a PCI USB card. (Opti is good)

Bert M said:
OK, now that I have ordered my first digital camera (Dark Angel)
How will i be able to d/l my images to my computer? I have a
dinosaur of a PC ( an original PII-200) , I will be getting a new
one soon, but what do I do in the meantime?

Is buying a MemoryStick floppy adapter the only/best solution?
Anyone have a good workaround til my new PC arrives?

--
Bert C=

Mike Fitzgerald · Sep 27, 2001

FRiC said:
The USB standard was pretty much finalized by 1996, so your board
may have USB support even if it doesn't have USB ports, if the
board isn't ATX form factor. Also since Windows 95 (and other OS's)
at the time didn't have USB support, so often USB is overlooked.
Check your motherboard manuals, you may be able to simply get a USB
bracket for it.

FWIW my 1997 system running a P166 MMX turned out to have onboard USB connectors (ATX), but I'd never been aware of them over the first two years because the rear cover plate didn't have cutouts to allow access to them!

On finally discovering this, I provided access and voila, USB. Support first appeared with it under the second release (OEM) of Win 95 in October 1996:
http://www.microsoft.com/HWDEV/busbios/usbwin98.htm

Mike

Bert M · Sep 27, 2001

Mike Fitzgerald said:
FWIW my 1997 system running a P166 MMX turned out to have onboard
USB connectors (ATX), but I'd never been aware of them over the
first two years because the rear cover plate didn't have cutouts to
allow access to them!

On finally discovering this, I provided access and voila, USB.
Support first appeared with it under the second release (OEM) of
Win 95 in October 1996:
http://www.microsoft.com/HWDEV/busbios/usbwin98.htm

Mike

Thx Mike....from reading that article, it would seem that I would need to upgrade to W98/ME for a better support. Im pretty sure i d/l SP 2.1 but i should double check.

Waht does the USB connector look like on the MoBo?

Mike Fitzgerald · Sep 28, 2001

Bert M said:
Thx Mike....from reading that article, it would seem that I would
need to upgrade to W98/ME for a better support. Im pretty sure i
d/l SP 2.1 but i should double check.

Yes I expect it would be more likely to get up and run without hassles. I tried mine out of curiosity, as I had a Wacom tablet ready for when I had planned to upgrade the whole machine about a month later. So I didn't give it a very long trial, but no problem with the tablet or my Epson 900. Win 98SE followed soon after, then the general hardware upgrade.

Bert M said:
Waht does the USB connector look like on the MoBo?

On an ATX board the typical arrangement is a squarish connector block, next along from the mini-DINs for mouse and keyboard, providing two standard Type A USB sockets stacked vertically with the long sides of the sockets parallel to the MoBo -- imagine a pair of floppy drives stacked together, and then reduced to about 1/8 scale. The Type A socket is a slot approx 12 x 4.6 mm.

As I said, typical -- no doubt there are other layouts in more compact board configurations.

Mike

Bert M · Sep 28, 2001

Mike,

Thanks, i will crack the case and give a look-see. Maybe I can slap something temporary together.

Bert C=

Mike Fitzgerald said:
Bert M said:

Thx Mike....from reading that article, it would seem that I would
need to upgrade to W98/ME for a better support. Im pretty sure i
d/l SP 2.1 but i should double check.

Click to expand...

Yes I expect it would be more likely to get up and run without
hassles. I tried mine out of curiosity, as I had a Wacom tablet
ready for when I had planned to upgrade the whole machine about a
month later. So I didn't give it a very long trial, but no problem
with the tablet or my Epson 900. Win 98SE followed soon after, then
the general hardware upgrade.

Mike Fitzgerald said:

Waht does the USB connector look like on the MoBo?

Click to expand...

On an ATX board the typical arrangement is a squarish connector
block, next along from the mini-DINs for mouse and keyboard,
providing two standard Type A USB sockets stacked vertically with
the long sides of the sockets parallel to the MoBo -- imagine a
pair of floppy drives stacked together, and then reduced to about
1/8 scale. The Type A socket is a slot approx 12 x 4.6 mm.

As I said, typical -- no doubt there are other layouts in more
compact board configurations.

Mike

Guy50528 · Sep 28, 2001

Another issue to consider is that Sony don't seem to support a USB driver for WIN95. Even the OEM versions that do support USB. I'm not sure if the 707 comes with a '95 compatible driver, but the S85 certainly doesn't. Also no support on the Sony Support sites.

At the moment I download my pics thru a compaq ipaq (PDA) USB, and then via Infrared to my 95 loaded laptop. Hell of a process

Bert M said:
Thanks, i will crack the case and give a look-see. Maybe I can
slap something temporary together.

Bert C=

Mike Fitzgerald said:

Bert M said:

Thx Mike....from reading that article, it would seem that I would
need to upgrade to W98/ME for a better support. Im pretty sure i
d/l SP 2.1 but i should double check.

Click to expand...

Yes I expect it would be more likely to get up and run without
hassles. I tried mine out of curiosity, as I had a Wacom tablet
ready for when I had planned to upgrade the whole machine about a
month later. So I didn't give it a very long trial, but no problem
with the tablet or my Epson 900. Win 98SE followed soon after, then
the general hardware upgrade.

Bert M said:

Waht does the USB connector look like on the MoBo?

Click to expand...

On an ATX board the typical arrangement is a squarish connector
block, next along from the mini-DINs for mouse and keyboard,
providing two standard Type A USB sockets stacked vertically with
the long sides of the sockets parallel to the MoBo -- imagine a
pair of floppy drives stacked together, and then reduced to about
1/8 scale. The Type A socket is a slot approx 12 x 4.6 mm.

As I said, typical -- no doubt there are other layouts in more
compact board configurations.

Mike

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