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--Maria this is why I asked. this photo and the next were taken with the 17-85 the only light by the taxi. The next photo is by the light of the shop. Unprocessed just resized. I would have to do a lot better with the expensive lens to change. What do you think?

Did you notice you missed out on the range 28-38 whilst you were walking around? Thanks



fredyr
 
Travis,

I appreciate all the time you took to type this out. I just printed it so I can follow it - hopefully tomorrow I will have some time.

I was going out today after an eye doctor appt but had a migraine. I'll let you know tomorrow how it works for me. :-)

Maria
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mjoshi said:
mjoshi said:
I dont know if it is camera or lens but this particular image seems to be having more noise and not that sharp.
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It's the photographer. :-) I had a difficult time with the glare of the ice - and the fact that the skaters were moving. There were so many people watching the skaters that I didn't take time to change any settings. I just kept what was there from the previous shot. Not always a good idea.

Maria

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Hi Fredy -
Fredy Ross said:
Fredy Ross said:
Maria this is why I asked. this photo and the next were taken with the 17-85 the only light by the taxi. The next photo is by the light of the shop. Unprocessed just resized.
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You did well with this lens in low light. I haven't tried any more low light yet. sorry for the delay. I had an eye dr. appt today and a migraine so I didn't get to take any "low light" pictures. Hopefully tomorrow. :-)
Fredy Ross said:
Fredy Ross said:
I would have to do a lot better with the expensive lens to change. What do you think?
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I agree, but since few people if any have posted low light - or any kind of match to your images, it's hard to tell what the outcome will be. Because the 24-105 lens is better in other ways than the 17-85 according to some who have had both, you might consider the pros and cons of all the features. It is definitely sharper from what I've seen, although you seem to have a very good copy and have managed to get some excellent shots. I would wait a little longer and see more images (I know, it can drive you crazy after a while). No one has them in stock anyway, so there is no rush.

I'm inclined to keep the 24-105. I was a bit disappointed at first, but with just a little post processing, I'm happy. I don't do a lot of pp because I don't like sitting at the computer, so when the images only need a bit of contrast/sharp I'm happy. The lens is growing on me. :-)
Fredy Ross said:
Fredy Ross said:
Did you notice you missed out on the range 28-38 whilst you were walking around? Thanks
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No. Thanks - I'll give it a "shot" tomorrow. Thanks for telling me.

Maria

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The picture I looked at was the white flags from left to right; it looked pretty good to me. I would advise you to go out and shoot a wall of bricks and then we can easily see any flaws (e.g. one side or corner soft compared to the other(s)).

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

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GaborSch said:
GaborSch said:
The off-center of the softness in the iimages you presented is disappointing. I hope it is not characteristic, or I will have to go with the 28-70/2.8L. (Note, that this is on a 1.6x crop camera!)
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I think what you are seeing is the very small DOF because the aperture was f/4 in many images (my mistake), so this made everything but the small area in focus out of focus, but not with good bokeh. My fault.

Maria

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J A K said:
J A K said:
I would advise you to go out and shoot a wall of bricks and then we can easily see any flaws
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That was my plan for this afternoon until I got a bad/sick migraine. So, it's rescheduled tomorrow.

Thanks - I'll hopefully post the results tomorrow. I'm looking for feedback as I have a few more days only = to make a final decision. I appreciate your help. A LOT!

Maria
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that if mine ever arrives, it is as good as yours. I'll be happy!

Thanks for the samples,
Jim

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Canon 1D Mark II, 20D, Pentax Optio 555, and G-III QL (yes - film)
 
Hope you don't mind my bricks pics.



Model Canon EOS 20D
Flash Used Yes
Focal Length 105 mm
Exposure Time 1/400 sec
Aperture f/4
ISO Equivalent 100
Exposure Bias
White Balance (-1)
Metering Mode matrix (5)



Model Canon EOS 20D
Flash Used Yes
Focal Length 105 mm
Exposure Time 1/80 sec
Aperture f/4.5
ISO Equivalent 100



Model Canon EOS 20D
Flash Used Yes
Focal Length 24 mm
Exposure Time 1/500 sec
Aperture f/5.6
ISO Equivalent 100

And some white bricks too



Make Canon
Model Canon EOS 20D
Flash Used No
Focal Length 24 mm
Exposure Time 1.60 sec
Aperture f/16
ISO Equivalent 400
Exposure Bias +1

Cheers,

José
Marla said:
Marla said:
Marla said:
I would advise you to go out and shoot a wall of bricks and then we can easily see any flaws
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That was my plan for this afternoon until I got a bad/sick
migraine. So, it's rescheduled tomorrow.

Thanks - I'll hopefully post the results tomorrow. I'm looking for
feedback as I have a few more days only = to make a final decision.
I appreciate your help. A LOT!

Maria
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http://mariaimage.smugmug.com/

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http://www.pbase.com/jmb_56/maxxum_7d
 
can sure bring on headaches. Sorry to hear you are a bit down. Anyway, if you do get a chance to do the "bricks" thing I'll be more than happy to check out the details.

Get some sleep and maybe you will feel a LOT better tomorrow! ;-)

Regards,

Joe Kurkjian, Pbase Supporter

http://www.pbase.com/jkurkjia



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When you do the brick wall comparison, maybe its useful to compare it with 17-40 at focal length 24mm and 40mm with apertures f4, f5.6 and f8.

That way, you can tell whether you can achieve the same level of sharpness by stepping down 1 or 2 stops. Most of the time you do have this option because of the IS.

I think 24-105 at f5.6 and f8 can be very sharp.

For some reasons, the flash shots are always very sharp. Could it be the mysterious flare problem reported in Japan? (Just kidding)
 
--Sorry my poor English after years in a foreign country. I meant did you miss the wide range whilst you were walking around

Hope your eyes are okay and hope you get a good monitor as that could be the reason. I have a Dell ultra sharp LCD and don't get sore eyes like I used to.
Take care
fredyr
 
I felt the 24-105 was excellent. I didn't miss anything else. With street photography, I don't use as much wide angle although 24 isn't that wide with the 1.6 crop factor. I do have the 17-40 which I love and it gets me good results.

Monitor - I have a Dell 17" which is pretty good, but I just noticed that people have mentioned some of my images look dark - which they don't on my monitor, and sometimes other people's images look over exposed so maybe my monitor needs to be recalibrated. With all this money for the 24-105, I can't afford a another one. :-)

Maria
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Somehow your bricks don't quite look like mine - I think your lens is "front focusing." :-)

Thanks for posting - I really like these images.

Maria
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J A K said:
J A K said:
if you do get a chance to do the "bricks" thing I'll be more than happy to check out the details.
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I'll be happy to take you up on that. I'm hoping to find some brick buildings sometime later this afternoon and will post this evening hopefully.

My migraine is basically 90% gone - but for some reason I woke up at 3:00 a.m. and couldn't get back to sleep so here I am. I'm going to try to get some work done - since I didn't do much yesterday.

Maria
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