I'd use an 85mm/1.8 lens (cost 300 bucks) on the D2X and a 135mm/2.0L (cost 1000 bucks) on the 5D.
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Well if you take into account depth of field, I'd probably need the Nikon 85mm/1.4 to compete with the 135mm Canon.
Price would be about the same. Image quality about equal. Print sizes about equal.
Leonel Eleutrio
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slipstream
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Why use a 135 f2 as in this comparison a 135 f2.8 will do the same and also cots 300 bucks. But I would use the 135 f2 as that is one really great lens.
But instead of saying why not use the appopriate lens I could also have said why not frame accordingly with the 5D?
Anyway 5D and D2X are no direct competitors at all.
Mark Tuccillo
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The only problem with you logic is that the D2x out sells both the 1DsII and 1DII combined.
I put an 85mm/1.4 on a D2X and a 135mm/2.0L on a 5d.
I shoot both lenses wide open. The depth of field would be similar.
Now in both cases you're using a legendary lens/cult object. If you get flaws with either of them, you'll get flaws with any lens.
Now here's my question. You fill the frame and you don't want to crop. Would the 135mm/2.0L (probably Canon's best lens) be soft in the corners? I don't know. I haven't used it.
I shoot both lenses wide open. The depth of field would be similar.
Now in both cases you're using a legendary lens/cult object. If you get flaws with either of them, you'll get flaws with any lens.
Now here's my question. You fill the frame and you don't want to crop. Would the 135mm/2.0L (probably Canon's best lens) be soft in the corners? I don't know. I haven't used it.
Riku
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Well can you prove him wrong then? Otherwise, zip it!
If you did not know, there is a little bit more to image quality than just the corners.
Since I'm so polite I won't say who you remind me of ;-)
slipstream
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I doubt this has anything to do with DOF but more that canon users have asked for an L equivalent of the 28-135 IS for years. Which is what this24-105 is all about. And you must admit that this is one great lens to have on your 5D as an all pupose lens. It also fits nicely in the less expensive F4 range of L lenses that C has been building up for a couple of years now. 17-40, 24-105, 70-200 all F4 but alot cheaper than the 2.8 equivalents. With the money you save getting these F4 lenses you could buy some primes for the very low light or very narrow dof action your shooting.
slipstream
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I don't know but I doubt it.
slipstream
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Just checked it for the money you save you can get a 28 1.8, 50 1.4 and 135 F2.
That is a very nice setup. You could better this with a 24 1.4 but that one is very expensive.
That is a very nice setup. You could better this with a 24 1.4 but that one is very expensive.
slipstream wrote:
And you must admit that this is one
5D with 24-105 = good high ISO performance plus IS. Wider at wide end and longer at long end.
D2X with 17-55 = bad high ISO performance with no IS but 2.8.
But I've heard complaints about the 24-105 that you wouldn't want to use it wide open at 24mm on a 5D.
And you must admit that this is one
I would seem to have a slight advantage over the 17-55.
5D with 24-105 = good high ISO performance plus IS. Wider at wide end and longer at long end.
D2X with 17-55 = bad high ISO performance with no IS but 2.8.
But I've heard complaints about the 24-105 that you wouldn't want to use it wide open at 24mm on a 5D.
John Ricard
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slipstream
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Well I would not because I like having a real all purpose lens for those times I do not want to carry everything with me. A 24-105 and a 50 1.4 would already fit alot of my needs. 17-40 or 70-200 will never do it on their own for me. And they also lack IS which I want in my all purpose lens. I think more than 50% of the time I would be using this lens. The fact that the others overlap with this lens is an advantage in my view as it limits the need for changing lenses. I never understood why people want lenses which follow each other exactly in range.
slipstream
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There seems to be quite some vigneting wide open at 24. That probably is the reason why you heard that.
Imola Red
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I might be late on this one but I keep seeing this arguement and it is SOOOOOO STUPID.
"i want my 35, 50 and 85 to look the way they are suposed to".
BLAH!
I wonder how people can do it.........it just throws me sooooo far off when I shoot with my 35mm film camera, my 1D at 1.6 magnification and THEN have to shoot Medium Format and then it's all screwed up!!!
I'm rolling my eyes as I say all that.
We've been dealing with this difference for decades now. The guy shooting 35mm film on a 85mm lens is seeing it different then the guy in the medium format with a 85mm lens.
Since when is 35mm the ONLY FORMAT? 35mm is a crop. Plain and simple.
"i want my 35, 50 and 85 to look the way they are suposed to".
BLAH!
I wonder how people can do it.........it just throws me sooooo far off when I shoot with my 35mm film camera, my 1D at 1.6 magnification and THEN have to shoot Medium Format and then it's all screwed up!!!
I'm rolling my eyes as I say all that.
We've been dealing with this difference for decades now. The guy shooting 35mm film on a 85mm lens is seeing it different then the guy in the medium format with a 85mm lens.
Since when is 35mm the ONLY FORMAT? 35mm is a crop. Plain and simple.
Vieri Bottazzini
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according to your imaginary poll, almost no pro photographers should use the d2x! lol that was one of the funniest I read in the (nonsense) FF vs DX religious war... thanks for the laugh!
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josh007
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He married Canon, and he would give his live for it. These are the insecure people that have to tell the world how good they are. He is all over the forums trollin'. Some day he will realize that smart people don't care about what he has to say.
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Daemeon
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Or conversely, buy one. Use it. Then bash it on the web.
I'm sure Nikon will continue to sell plenty of D2X's without you doing free smear campaigns for them.
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