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Still can't decide between the 24-105 L and the 24-70 L
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pipspeak
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One big reason I'd sell my 24-70 is its weight... the 24-105 is lighter and therefore a better all-round lens if image quality is as good as the 24-70 IMO. Don't get me wrong, the 24-70 is fabulous but after recently taking it on a 3-week vacation I started to get a bit fed up with its size and weight. It's not a lens to take if you want to travel light!
The 70-105 range of the 24-105 new lens is what appeals to me the most but that apparently is also its weakest end. I'm also not a great fan of IS simply because it makes a lens far less durable IMO. I've dropped my 24-70 to no ill effect. I would not want to drop an IS lens, even a few feet. So for now I think I'll stick to the 24-70 and my trusty 85/1.8.
Also check out the Tamron... it is a perfect size for travelling and well built but image quality seems to depend entirely on luck. Some folks swear by them. I sold a mine for the 24-70. All I miss about the Tamron is its wonderfully compact size.
The 70-105 range of the 24-105 new lens is what appeals to me the most but that apparently is also its weakest end. I'm also not a great fan of IS simply because it makes a lens far less durable IMO. I've dropped my 24-70 to no ill effect. I would not want to drop an IS lens, even a few feet. So for now I think I'll stick to the 24-70 and my trusty 85/1.8.
Also check out the Tamron... it is a perfect size for travelling and well built but image quality seems to depend entirely on luck. Some folks swear by them. I sold a mine for the 24-70. All I miss about the Tamron is its wonderfully compact size.
pipspeak
Senior Member
I assume you mean get both, choose your favorite, then send one back.
A great idea if one has the cash flow!
A great idea if one has the cash flow!
Felipe Rodríguez
Senior Member
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I'm more than happy with my Sigma 24-70 2.8 (it's the latest version).
Most of these pictures were taken with it:
http://www.pbase.com/feliperodriguez/sanluis
Of course, now for me there is no question: the 25-105 will be my next lens.
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Most of these pictures were taken with it:
http://www.pbase.com/feliperodriguez/sanluis
Of course, now for me there is no question: the 25-105 will be my next lens.
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mike bustad
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--I sell all my stuff now on FM buy and sell forum. I never use Ebay anymore it's a great place to buy and sell. I think I got something like $1050 for it I would have to check to make sure. But I bought the 24-105 from Penn for $1099 which is about the best price one can get it for.
Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
mike bustad
Forum Pro
--Hi Felipe
I know of many people in the forum who love the Sigma and I have seen some great shots using that lens but for some reason I never did.
Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
QL
Leading Member
This is what I did. I am restless withot both of them.
Peru_Photog
Leading Member
IS with slow aperture is not going to give you the bokeh of the F2.8.
F4 turns me off to the 24-105L.
Yuk!
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F4 turns me off to the 24-105L.
Yuk!
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F/2.8 no IS turns ME off. Without IS you need at least F2 or it won't do the job many instances.
Peru_Photog
Leading Member
I'm the minority that does not think bumping up the ISO is a good solution for having a lens that's too slow...there have been exceptions but I believe this mostly true.
The reason? Canon does not make a DSLR tyet hat provides truly noise-free images at 800+ ISO. Not yet, anyways.
When people refer to Canon DSLR's as being noise-free, what they're really saying is that Canon makes the best DSLR's because they deliver minimal noise in COMPARISON TO OTHER MAKES.
Still, they have a ways to go for providing better noiseless images at 800+ ISO. I'm not happy yet. So until then, I prefer the fastest lenses.
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It's not just the photographer...it's the equipment too that CAN matter.
The reason? Canon does not make a DSLR tyet hat provides truly noise-free images at 800+ ISO. Not yet, anyways.
When people refer to Canon DSLR's as being noise-free, what they're really saying is that Canon makes the best DSLR's because they deliver minimal noise in COMPARISON TO OTHER MAKES.
Still, they have a ways to go for providing better noiseless images at 800+ ISO. I'm not happy yet. So until then, I prefer the fastest lenses.
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Peru_Photog
Leading Member
There is no way the Tam 24-75 blows away the Canon 70-200 F2.8 IS...this has never happened. The Canon 70-200 F2.8 even blows away the Canon 24-70 F2.8L in image quality, so how much more is it better then the Tamron? Lots!
This is especially true with color rendition, and contrast.
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This is especially true with color rendition, and contrast.
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Peru_Photog
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Seems like a waste of $ to buy both, yea? Too much overlap in focal length, and in aperture speeds. Better to buy a fast prime within the zoom's focal range...at least the aperture would be faster, etc.
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QL
Leading Member
The IS is very useful for indoor casual flash shootings that require deep DOF at 1/30 second with ambiant Shootings at 1/30 second without IS are too slow. Besides the 24-105 IS, there is no other Canon EF L lens less than 70mm with IS.
I just can't let my 24-70 go. It is so nice for low light shootings and for portrait as well.
I just can't let my 24-70 go. It is so nice for low light shootings and for portrait as well.
egilsrud
Active member
Thanks Mike.
I've noticed that the going rate for a nice used 24-70L on the FM Buy & Sell forum has been dropping - it's now closer to $950. I'm glad you got a good price for yours.
Another problem for me is that I have no posting history on FM, and no B&S transactions, so I'll have a bit of a hurdle to establish credibility.
I shot a charity fundraiser last night, using mostly the 24-70 on my 20D. The pics turned out great, but I must admit that there were times that I needed wider than 24mm. It wasn't convenient to switch to the 10-22, so I had to make do. I really miss the range of the 17-85IS at times - it's really a flexible lens. On the other hand, I don't miss the CA which ruined some otherwise nice shots.
Regards,
Jeff
I've noticed that the going rate for a nice used 24-70L on the FM Buy & Sell forum has been dropping - it's now closer to $950. I'm glad you got a good price for yours.
Another problem for me is that I have no posting history on FM, and no B&S transactions, so I'll have a bit of a hurdle to establish credibility.
I shot a charity fundraiser last night, using mostly the 24-70 on my 20D. The pics turned out great, but I must admit that there were times that I needed wider than 24mm. It wasn't convenient to switch to the 10-22, so I had to make do. I really miss the range of the 17-85IS at times - it's really a flexible lens. On the other hand, I don't miss the CA which ruined some otherwise nice shots.
Regards,
Jeff
mike bustad
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Tanglefoot47
Tulalip Wa.
And your comparison pics are where?
this lens is selling all the time on fredmiranda.com. buy a used one there for the going price of $950 to $1000. use it and see if you like it. if you have never used the 24-70, you need to find out how big and heavy that baby really is; if you don't mind the weight, then you've just bought a great lens at a nice discount. if you don't like it, for whatever reason, sell it again. you will get your money back, or darn near. cheaper than renting.
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Of course, if you are flash shooting with a deep DOF - i.e. smaller aperture, you may as well use the 17-85IS or the 28-135IS.
There is never just one choice!
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