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You just won a contest, you get to choose your prize:

Canon XT or Nikon D50 or Minolta 5D with one zoom lens (your choice)

vs

E-500 with 2 lens kit

vs

FZ-30 and $500 cash
 
D50 With the Nikon 200-400 Zoom. Then Sell the zoom and use the proceeds to get the 85 1.4, 70-200vr, and 17-35. :)
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Unda Covalava said:
You just won a contest, you get to choose your prize:

Canon XT or Nikon D50 or Minolta 5D with one zoom lens (your choice)

vs

E-500 with 2 lens kit

vs

FZ-30 and $500 cash
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By giving us the choice of lens...I would do what everyone else is doing...choosing the MOST expensive lens. You should have stipulated a maximum spending amount...

The E500 2 lens kit will sell for less than $1000. To get any of those other cameras into that price range, you would need to go with the KIT LENSES!
 
Easy. I'd take the Nikon D50 with the 70-200VR. And no way I am going to sell it on ebay. I'm going out and shoot a card of photos! That would make a great addition to my D70 with 18-70 kit lens.

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Darlene
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Assuming you were looking for some actual guideance rather than me being a wiseguy,

Currently, I'd get a D70, non S kit. I prefer the ergonomics and usability of the Nikons to the canons, the Olympus 4:3 aspect ratio bugs me (I don't want to crop every pic for 4x6s), the 500 bucks won't buy any more performance for the prosumer, and I don't know anything about the Minolta.

Why the 70 over the 50? The kit lens with the D50 is pretty underwhelming by many accounts, whereas the kit for the d70 is nice. Many folks are getting the D70 kit lens with the d50. THat said, right now there is a rebate on the D70 non s, and it is actually cheaper to get the D70 kit than the d50 with the 18-70. Nothing wrong with the d50, but the only advantage over the d70 is noise, and I've yet to see any evidence that this is anything but different in camera processing that could be duplicated in post. The d50 lacks features I use (2nd command wheel, backlit Lcd) so for me, the choice is easy.
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The honest answer is appreciated.

I'm kinda leaning towards the Oly kit for the reasons you listed and the dust shaker (no worries about changing lenses).

5D, though, with the image stabilizer is nice for those of us spoiled by image stabilized prosumers.

XT - well, it's blazing fast, images are soid, and there's no lens switching with a sigma 18-200.

The D50 feels right in the hand.

The FZ-30 is cheaper, has the most reach, is image stabilized, has the flip-down screen which I value.
shinndigg said:
For the value, excellent colors and even better lenses, Oly for sure.
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shinndigg
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At the same time, you can only have that one zoom lens.

I meant it more as what you like to shoot with, given the choice, rather than what would you rather have to sell on ebay.

True, your suggestion of a max spending limit probably would have solved this issue.
E1derful said:
By giving us the choice of lens...I would do what everyone else is
doing...choosing the MOST expensive lens. You should have
stipulated a maximum spending amount...

The E500 2 lens kit will sell for less than $1000. To get any of
those other cameras into that price range, you would need to go
with the KIT LENSES!
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Assuming a one lens solution, would you still choose the kit lens to go with your D70, or something else?

The D70 does feel really good, as does the D50. I think I'd miss the 2nd wheel as well.

As for the 4:3 aspect of the Oly, it doesn't bug me as much, since that's all I've known. And there's just something about images from the Olympus cameras that I've owned that I like (non-DSLR).
poliscijustin said:
Assuming you were looking for some actual guideance rather than me
being a wiseguy,

Currently, I'd get a D70, non S kit. I prefer the ergonomics and
usability of the Nikons to the canons, the Olympus 4:3 aspect ratio
bugs me (I don't want to crop every pic for 4x6s), the 500 bucks
won't buy any more performance for the prosumer, and I don't know
anything about the Minolta.

Why the 70 over the 50? The kit lens with the D50 is pretty
underwhelming by many accounts, whereas the kit for the d70 is
nice. Many folks are getting the D70 kit lens with the d50. THat
said, right now there is a rebate on the D70 non s, and it is
actually cheaper to get the D70 kit than the d50 with the 18-70.
Nothing wrong with the d50, but the only advantage over the d70 is
noise, and I've yet to see any evidence that this is anything but
different in camera processing that could be duplicated in post.
The d50 lacks features I use (2nd command wheel, backlit Lcd) so
for me, the choice is easy.
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I wouldn't hesitate to buy my D70 with kit lens again. But that doesn't mean it is the right camera for you. You have to look at your needs. None of those cameras are bad. Just get what fits best in your hands and which suits the type of photography you want to do.

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Darlene
Favorites: 5700, 8800, D70
http://www.pbase.com/imacatmom
 
and i'd drop the Nikon because it is too expensive.

The XT, 5D minolta and the Oly all seem close to call but there are not many reviews of the last two.

IMHO the stabilisation on the 5D is irrelebvant if it cannot do the high ISO work as well as the others ... and from what I can tell the XT seems better than the Oly at ISO 800+.

IMHO the KEY advantage to a DSLR is the high ISO capability ... i was doing soem casual shooting today and being restricted to ISO 200 (at best) is amazingly annoying .. i desperately needed at least 400 if not 800.
 
I'm biased because I have a Nikon, but I think the d50 is a pretty good bang for the buck camera and shouldn't be written off lightly, not that they don't all have their strenghts.
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I would look more closely at some of the reviews. iirc the 5D is excellent until maybe 1600, at which point the high iso leaders xt and Nikon D50 are a little better.

Right now I'm most interested in: (in order)
E-500 b/c I can switch lenses and not worry about dust
5D because everything is image stabilized

tie: XT because it rocks and has mirror lock-up or Nikon D50 because it's fast and feels better in-hand than the XT.

Or more likely the FZ30 because it feels right, has the range 35-420mm with Macro, has Image Stabilization, has movie mode, and in one piece, can cover most photo and travel situations (I don't shoot action in low light).
Alfisti said:
and i'd drop the Nikon because it is too expensive.

The XT, 5D minolta and the Oly all seem close to call but there are
not many reviews of the last two.

IMHO the stabilisation on the 5D is irrelebvant if it cannot do the
high ISO work as well as the others ... and from what I can tell
the XT seems better than the Oly at ISO 800+.

IMHO the KEY advantage to a DSLR is the high ISO capability ... i
was doing soem casual shooting today and being restricted to ISO
200 (at best) is amazingly annoying .. i desperately needed at
least 400 if not 800.
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Alfisti said:
IMHO the KEY advantage to a DSLR is the high ISO capability
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Thats a non issueI bet 95% of all photographers wont shoot past ISO 400 maybe 800 in 95% of the time. Unless you specialize in low light photography low noise hi ISO is just a convenience. Should all cameras
offer low noise hi ISO? Yes, but its not a necessity.

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