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new 5D review at Steve's (nt)
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http://www.steves-digicams.com/2005_reviews/maxxum5d.html
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Igor_KV
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"With a price aimed at the amateur dSLR market, the 5D faces stiff competition, largely from the Canon EOS Digital Rebel XT"
Why not opposite?
Why not opposite?
Funny, I didnt think the Rebel XT compared at all. Didn't like the camera at all - there's many other things that matter more than 2 extra megapixels. But there's still people around here who keep mentioning needing more megapixels, so I guess those are the people considering the Rebel XT.
The review was pretty good. My viewfinder display doesn't look like his though. Mine shows a few little bars directliy to the right of the camera shake warning, not down the right side of the viewfinder as his screenshot showed.
The review was pretty good. My viewfinder display doesn't look like his though. Mine shows a few little bars directliy to the right of the camera shake warning, not down the right side of the viewfinder as his screenshot showed.
I suspect he's recycled some pictures from the 7D review. Naughty...
Rich Lanthier
Senior Member
I thought the review was quite positive. I have not been reading Steve's reviews for a while so I was less sure of what to see. Doesn't seem to be much testing/comparison of the camera. But it certainly was a positive review of the camera.
Rich
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Ross
Veteran Member
I spotted the viewfinder goof, too. He probably used the 7D review as a template, due to the similarities. I spotted a few more minor items that sounded more like the 7D than the 5D. How is his review of the Master Lite software (is it actually the lite version?), I haven't loaded it?
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Daniel (NL)
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Would that be a camera, or lens difference?
It might very well be the lens, the Nikon 18-70 pretty good as far as I've seen.
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It might very well be the lens, the Nikon 18-70 pretty good as far as I've seen.
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ab012_KM7D
Senior Member
not to mention default sharpening on KM tends to be lower then others...and that the D70s kit is more expensive....
there are so many variables going on that the comparison is not very meaningful at all
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Bernard
AS rocks!
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there are so many variables going on that the comparison is not very meaningful at all
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Bernard
AS rocks!
lens reviews and more on dyxum.com!
Sanjuro
Well-known member
Sorry but the photo taked with the 7D seems out of focus or?
I may need glasses in that case.
The color of the sky seems better in the 7D.
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Sanjuro
I may need glasses in that case.
The color of the sky seems better in the 7D.
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snowboard9
Leading Member
No information on lens, or conditions. Basicall, a hit and run . Such 'comparisons' are totally useless and unfortuneately, pollute the forum for those looking for true camera comparisons using equivalent conditions.
That is why most people look for professionals to do this - like Steve's or DPreview.
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That is why most people look for professionals to do this - like Steve's or DPreview.
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I agree. Other samples I've seen in controlled tests show the 5D every bit as good as the D70 quality under identical conditions when not using AS. And AS gives 5D advantage in low light.
drejc has trolling the forum and trying to stir things up for weeks making the same pointless comments and quotes and asking the same questions.
drejc has trolling the forum and trying to stir things up for weeks making the same pointless comments and quotes and asking the same questions.
)) agree! Matthew Lemin
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Not a ridiculous comparison at all. I looked at the same picture myself - he uses the same building for all his reviews. I too was immediately struck by the "softness" of the focus and am interested to see the comparison with the Nikon.
Of course it could be a number of factors. But one thing Steve is always careful with this picture to do is use the "kit lens" where available and to take the picture on a tripod in similar lighting conditions at a similar time of day.
I would reckon the difference is down to the quality of the lens. He took the same picture several times using different levels of compression and even a couple of raw pictures with enhanced sharpening. In each case the underlying softness of the focus is evident.
Ultimately the quality of pictures from a camera is substantially down to the quality of the glass. Nikon and Canon's glass is exemplary. I am not familiar with KM's lenses so cannot comment further except to say consider the lens you buy carefully before you go with the KM.
I love the "idea" of the KM 5D. I have been particularly taken by the articles on the 7D posted by Mike Johnstone in Luminous Landscape
http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-july03-05.shtml
http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-july10-05.shtml
and have been waiting anxiously for a full review from someone of the 5D with a view to possibly buying. The quality of the sample pictures on Steve's guide is a disappointment and I will now wait for Dave's full comparison before I make any rash decisions!
Of course it could be a number of factors. But one thing Steve is always careful with this picture to do is use the "kit lens" where available and to take the picture on a tripod in similar lighting conditions at a similar time of day.
I would reckon the difference is down to the quality of the lens. He took the same picture several times using different levels of compression and even a couple of raw pictures with enhanced sharpening. In each case the underlying softness of the focus is evident.
Ultimately the quality of pictures from a camera is substantially down to the quality of the glass. Nikon and Canon's glass is exemplary. I am not familiar with KM's lenses so cannot comment further except to say consider the lens you buy carefully before you go with the KM.
I love the "idea" of the KM 5D. I have been particularly taken by the articles on the 7D posted by Mike Johnstone in Luminous Landscape
http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-july03-05.shtml
http://luminous-landscape.com/columns/sm-july10-05.shtml
and have been waiting anxiously for a full review from someone of the 5D with a view to possibly buying. The quality of the sample pictures on Steve's guide is a disappointment and I will now wait for Dave's full comparison before I make any rash decisions!
Matthew Lemin
Well-known member
CORRECTION!
It probably IS mostly down to the sharpening. Just took the two sample photos of the building from Steve's site and ran them through photoshop. Even using JPEG rather than RAW you can virtually turn the KM 5D picture into the same sort of picture as the Nikon one.
The 5D moves back up my list of potential purchases again!
Still I await to see Dave's much more scientific approach. I would also like to see a few more lens reviews around. With all the DSLR's now so closely matched on features and image quality I would like a more objective assesment of the various lenses available in each makers range.
It probably IS mostly down to the sharpening. Just took the two sample photos of the building from Steve's site and ran them through photoshop. Even using JPEG rather than RAW you can virtually turn the KM 5D picture into the same sort of picture as the Nikon one.
The 5D moves back up my list of potential purchases again!
Still I await to see Dave's much more scientific approach. I would also like to see a few more lens reviews around. With all the DSLR's now so closely matched on features and image quality I would like a more objective assesment of the various lenses available in each makers range.
Terrible comparison, the dof is completely different on both shots, almost as if the metering/settings were different , this is not a fair comparison, plus I'm not convinced it is a better shot, leaf quality and corner to corner sharpness looks better on the km, the guy who says the nikon is better is wrong;
1) because he has no idea what he's looking at, comparing it too.
2) there is no basis for comparison for these shots, other than they are similar scenes.
idiot,,springs to mind
1) because he has no idea what he's looking at, comparing it too.
2) there is no basis for comparison for these shots, other than they are similar scenes.
idiot,,springs to mind
Finally you saw...
I know that D70s kit lens are better than KM 5D kit lens. but still suprise me that kind of softnes in outdoor pictures.
Don't get me wrong again... I like 5D and I have D70s (broken) waiting for new one and on other hand thinking to buy 5D.
that is the reson asking a lot of question about noise, speed, etc...
I like to hear as many comment about that becouse moving form nikon is not so easy as you think. Specially becouse there isn't so many lens as nikon have (also used one).
I know that D70s kit lens are better than KM 5D kit lens. but still suprise me that kind of softnes in outdoor pictures.
Don't get me wrong again... I like 5D and I have D70s (broken) waiting for new one and on other hand thinking to buy 5D.
that is the reson asking a lot of question about noise, speed, etc...
I like to hear as many comment about that becouse moving form nikon is not so easy as you think. Specially becouse there isn't so many lens as nikon have (also used one).
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