D7 dedicated flash af assist light performance

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The D7' s lens performance seems to be good . It does not have a focus assist light and some have commented about irritating focus hunting .

I am interested in buying this camera and would like to know if the dedicated Minolta flash with af light function solves this problem .
 
It is my understanding that the AF assist light on the Minolta Flashes do not work when used on the Dimage 7.

I have a 3600HS(D) and have never noticed the AF light working on the flash unit.

Joo
The D7' s lens performance seems to be good . It does not have a
focus assist light and some have commented about irritating focus
hunting .
I am interested in buying this camera and would like to know if the
dedicated Minolta flash with af light function solves this problem .
 
The AF assist light is used in cameras that use Phase detect technology, such as canon slr cameras. Most film slr camers use the phase detect technology.

As far as I know all the consumer and prosumer digital cameras use a contrast detect technology. This means they are all slow and inaccurate. The Sony F707 attempts to correct this by using a low power laser to create a pattern that assists the contrast detect technology.

D7 also has contrast detect, and thus, can not take advantage of the AF assist light. If the light turned on, it would only waste power.

The only digital cameras that support the use of more advanced Phase detect technology are professional camera.

Hope this helps,

Kalahari
The D7' s lens performance seems to be good . It does not have a
focus assist light and some have commented about irritating focus
hunting .
I am interested in buying this camera and would like to know if the
dedicated Minolta flash with af light function solves this problem .
 
Thank you .

I was relying on the information supplied in Steves Digicam's review , which stated in it's conclusion that the D7 AF was superior as it uses phase detect technology rather than contrast .
As far as I know all the consumer and prosumer digital cameras use
a contrast detect technology. This means they are all slow and
inaccurate. The Sony F707 attempts to correct this by using a low
power laser to create a pattern that assists the contrast detect
technology.

D7 also has contrast detect, and thus, can not take advantage of
the AF assist light. If the light turned on, it would only waste
power.

The only digital cameras that support the use of more advanced
Phase detect technology are professional camera.

Hope this helps,

Kalahari
The D7' s lens performance seems to be good . It does not have a
focus assist light and some have commented about irritating focus
hunting .
I am interested in buying this camera and would like to know if the
dedicated Minolta flash with af light function solves this problem .
 
The Canon G-1 has an assist lamp built in, and within it's range,
it helps a lot. I have several nice sharp images taken when I could
not see the target in the LCD at all. Many people buy one of the
cheap laser pointers at a store and just carry it in their pocket to
use as a low light focus assist.
As far as I know all the consumer and prosumer digital cameras use
a contrast detect technology. This means they are all slow and
inaccurate. The Sony F707 attempts to correct this by using a low
power laser to create a pattern that assists the contrast detect
technology.

D7 also has contrast detect, and thus, can not take advantage of
the AF assist light. If the light turned on, it would only waste
power.

The only digital cameras that support the use of more advanced
Phase detect technology are professional camera.

Hope this helps,

Kalahari
The D7' s lens performance seems to be good . It does not have a
focus assist light and some have commented about irritating focus
hunting .
I am interested in buying this camera and would like to know if the
dedicated Minolta flash with af light function solves this problem .
 
D7 also has contrast detect, and thus, can not take advantage of
the AF assist light. If the light turned on, it would only waste
power.
First, all literature I've seen on the D7 claims it has phase detection AF. Second, why on earth wouldn't the AF assist light help a contract-detection system? These systems start having problems in low light (thus low contrast) .. shining some light on the situation will bring that contrast out considerably and give the AF something to lock onto.
 
Well, Maybe I am wrong.

If the D7 really has phase detect instead of contrast detect, then I do not understand why the focus is so slow.

Second, for a contrast detect system to use an AF light it has to be at a frequency that is detectable by the CCD.

I guess in the end this problem may not be hardware related at all, but rather software related.

Kalahari
D7 also has contrast detect, and thus, can not take advantage of
the AF assist light. If the light turned on, it would only waste
power.
First, all literature I've seen on the D7 claims it has phase
detection AF. Second, why on earth wouldn't the AF assist light
help a contract-detection system? These systems start having
problems in low light (thus low contrast) .. shining some light on
the situation will bring that contrast out considerably and give
the AF something to lock onto.
 
Well I double checked the Minolta site and it clearly stated that Dimage 7 uses Video AF (or contrast detect) and not Phase detection.
Here is the quote from the FAQ on the Minolta site:

Question:
Why does the DiMAGE 7 take time to focus on the subject in AF mode?

Answer:

It is due to difference in AF systems between the DiMAGE 7 and Maxxum/Dynax SLRs. In general, the conventional film cameras (silver-halides) use AF system called Phase Detection, while Video AF is widely used for DSCs. The Phase Detection system, which is capable of obtaining defocus amount and achieves high speed AF operation, usually requires a large space between the optics and CCD to split through-the-lens light for distance calculation. Thus, given priority for compactness, non-lens-replaceable DSCs are often equipped with Video AF system, which operates comparatively slower than the phase detection. DiMAGE 7's AF is not inferior to other DSCs featuring Video AF.
If the D7 really has phase detect instead of contrast detect, then
I do not understand why the focus is so slow.

Second, for a contrast detect system to use an AF light it has to
be at a frequency that is detectable by the CCD.

I guess in the end this problem may not be hardware related at all,
but rather software related.

Kalahari
D7 also has contrast detect, and thus, can not take advantage of
the AF assist light. If the light turned on, it would only waste
power.
First, all literature I've seen on the D7 claims it has phase
detection AF. Second, why on earth wouldn't the AF assist light
help a contract-detection system? These systems start having
problems in low light (thus low contrast) .. shining some light on
the situation will bring that contrast out considerably and give
the AF something to lock onto.
 
Very interesting. Earlier in this forum, much was made of the fact that Minolta claimed to use Phase detection on the D7 and specifically spoke of the disadvantages of contrast detect with respect to the D7's system. (Do a search in this forum for "phase detection" and nose through the threads)

In fact, I could swear that Phil's review originally listed phase detection as the AF type. But it seems Minolta either never said that, or they have backpedaled on their claims somewhat now that the AF has proven to be comparatively weak. And Phil's specs do say contrast detection right now.

Back to the relevant issue though: the CCD detects VISIBLE light frequencies, obviously, so wouldn't any visible-light AF assist light help? I know it does on my E-10, which also uses contrast detection.
Well I double checked the Minolta site and it clearly stated that
Dimage 7 uses Video AF (or contrast detect) and not Phase detection.
Here is the quote from the FAQ on the Minolta site:

Question:
Why does the DiMAGE 7 take time to focus on the subject in AF mode?

Answer:
It is due to difference in AF systems between the DiMAGE 7 and
Maxxum/Dynax SLRs. In general, the conventional film cameras
(silver-halides) use AF system called Phase Detection, while Video
AF is widely used for DSCs. The Phase Detection system, which is
capable of obtaining defocus amount and achieves high speed AF
operation, usually requires a large space between the optics and
CCD to split through-the-lens light for distance calculation. Thus,
given priority for compactness, non-lens-replaceable DSCs are often
equipped with Video AF system, which operates comparatively slower
than the phase detection. DiMAGE 7's AF is not inferior to other
DSCs featuring Video AF.
 
Very interesting. Earlier in this forum, much was made of the fact
that Minolta claimed to use Phase detection on the D7 and
specifically spoke of the disadvantages of contrast detect with
respect to the D7's system.
Steves digicams and Imaging resource both state phase detection.

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Andrew.
 
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The D7' s lens performance seems to be good . It does not have a
focus assist light and some have commented about irritating focus
hunting .
I am interested in buying this camera and would like to know if the
dedicated Minolta flash with af light function solves this problem .
 

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