apple computer

dnapolimerasi · Oct 1, 2005

hi everyone.

Maybe this isn't the right place where to talk about computer, but maybe some of you can help me.
I've a Nikon D70 and to best use it i want to buy a new computer.
I was wondering to switch to Apple OS from win xp, so here are the questions:
1) all the Nikon software and drivers are available also for apple?

2) Photoshop CS is the SAME as the one for Win XP? I mean, i don't have to restart from zero to understand how it works?

3) last question, does some of u know a place in Orlando where to buy at lower place an apple powerbook 17' g4?
thank you very much
bye

flat five · Oct 1, 2005

dnapolimerasi said:
hi everyone.
Maybe this isn't the right place where to talk about computer, but
maybe some of you can help me.
I've a Nikon D70 and to best use it i want to buy a new computer.
I was wondering to switch to Apple OS from win xp, so here are the
questions:
1) all the Nikon software and drivers are available also for apple?

yes

dnapolimerasi said:
2) Photoshop CS is the SAME as the one for Win XP? I mean, i don't
have to restart from zero to understand how it works?

nah, they are the same... PS actually runs very well on a mac and is comparable to the windows version.. capture runs slower on a mac because nikon hasn't custom tailored capture to take full advantage of osx...

dnapolimerasi said:
3) last question, does some of u know a place in Orlando where to
buy at lower place an apple powerbook 17' g4?

nope, it's going to be expensive no matter where you buy it

... i know orlando has an apple store in the millenia mall so that will probably be your best bet.. all of the apple authorized dealers sell the computers for roughly the same price....you can probably buy online for a better price...
jeff

John EH · Oct 1, 2005

You have to get it out of the camera, right? Also there is a mac tools forum here.

I switched to Mac a year or so ago and I'm never going back to PC.....Ever.

Photoshop is essentially the same, although maybe zippier.

Nikon capture and Picture Project and Nikon view are available although I think there are problems with having Capture and View on the same mac computer. I don't care for View or Picture Project.

I get my color in Capture and do any clean up in Photoshop CS.

Probably your digital experience will likely be the same or about the same.

What you won't have to put up with is a bunch of pop-ups, spyware, and viruses and having to buy third party stuff to protect yourself at the OS level.

Go to a mac store and play around with one before you buy. To each his own.

John

Frank C. · Oct 1, 2005

Apple computer .....
oooo....
shrivers running down my spine...
my last apple was the IIe back in '85 ..hehe=)

Duane Ellison · Oct 1, 2005

John EH said:
What you won't have to put up with is a bunch of pop-ups, spyware,
and viruses and having to buy third party stuff to protect yourself
at the OS level.

That is the key right there! Earlier this year after a long fight with spyware and viruses I finally gave up and bought an iMac. Like John I will NEVER go back to a PC. You can do the same things on a PC I just want to USE my computer - not fight with it...

--
Duane...

SF236268 · Oct 1, 2005

Apple is to Windows as Nikon is to Canon... smaller market share but insanely better!!

Hats off to all Apple Nikonians

Frank C. said:
Apple computer .....
oooo....
shrivers running down my spine...
my last apple was the IIe back in '85 ..hehe=)

Frank C. · Oct 1, 2005

SF said:
Apple is to Windows as Nikon is to Canon... smaller market share
but insanely better!!

smaller but more eXpEn$ive... (!)

SF236268 said:
Hats off to all Apple Nikonians

Frank C. said:

Apple computer .....
oooo....
shrivers running down my spine...
my last apple was the IIe back in '85 ..hehe=)

Click to expand...

TIMartin · Oct 1, 2005

Frank,

Those are probably shivers of delight; if not, get them checked out by a physician.

What did your digital camera look like in 1985?
Where could you find a 300GB hard drive? How about even 300MB?
How far did you have to travel for a Starbucks in 1985?
Grande Decaf Iced Caffè Latte indeed!

How about your PC or your high-speed Internet connection: what did they look like?
Heck, the world was still using coax Ethernet back then. Cable internet? DSL?

You should stop by your local Apple shop and see how things have changed.
Apple runs on a variant of UNIX now and is considered among the safest,
fastest and most scalable available platforms for any desktop. I do not think
that you will find a soul that disputes that it is the best-designed desktop
environment on the planet.

I use both Mac OS and Windows; heck, sometimes I even use Windows on my Mac.

I use the tool most appropriate for the task at hand. Mac OS X suits many of my tasks;
perhaps it would suit some of yours too.

--
-- Tim

FJBrad · Oct 1, 2005

dnapolimerasi said:
hi everyone.
Maybe this isn't the right place where to talk about computer, but
maybe some of you can help me.
I've a Nikon D70 and to best use it i want to buy a new computer.
I was wondering to switch to Apple OS from win xp, so here are the
questions:
1) all the Nikon software and drivers are available also for apple?

Yes

dnapolimerasi said:
2) Photoshop CS is the SAME as the one for Win XP? I mean, i don't
have to restart from zero to understand how it works?

Some keyboard shortcuts are slightly different, but the nav and GUI are very similar. I switch back and forth between platforms with no problem. Some system preference settings will be different, but nothing major

dnapolimerasi said:
3) last question, does some of u know a place in Orlando where to
buy at lower place an apple powerbook 17' g4?
thank you very much
bye

The 17" is great, but quite spendy. Consider getting a 12' or 15", and putting the extra $ into a high quality LCD. This way, you can still edit on the road, but have a much more portable puter (especially with the 12"), while at home, you'll have a dual display system, putting pallettes, dialogue boxes and tools on the pBook display leaving your entire second display for image.
Get a Pbook with a superdrive for burning DVD's

--
FJBrad
D70...it's not rocket surgery.

Frank C. · Oct 1, 2005

Apple caters to a niche market. Everythiing comes out later and
is more expensive on an Apple ( both hardware and software ).
I agree it is always on the technological cutting edge but
I don't think it is worth the bother, unless you gotta make
a fashion statement to your clients or something.... =)

TIMartin said:
Frank,

Those are probably shivers of delight; if not, get them checked out
by a physician.

What did your digital camera look like in 1985?
Where could you find a 300GB hard drive? How about even 300MB?
How far did you have to travel for a Starbucks in 1985?
Grande Decaf Iced Caffè Latte indeed!
How about your PC or your high-speed Internet connection: what did
they look like?
Heck, the world was still using coax Ethernet back then. Cable
internet? DSL?

You should stop by your local Apple shop and see how things have
changed.
Apple runs on a variant of UNIX now and is considered among the
safest,
fastest and most scalable available platforms for any desktop. I
do not think
that you will find a soul that disputes that it is the
best-designed desktop
environment on the planet.

I use both Mac OS and Windows; heck, sometimes I even use Windows
on my Mac.
I use the tool most appropriate for the task at hand. Mac OS X
suits many of my tasks;
perhaps it would suit some of yours too.

--
-- Tim

maddog57 · Oct 1, 2005

Duane Ellison said:
Duane Ellison said:

What you won't have to put up with is a bunch of pop-ups, spyware,
and viruses and having to buy third party stuff to protect yourself
at the OS level.

Click to expand...

Duane Ellison said:
That is the key right there! Earlier this year after a long fight
with spyware and viruses I finally gave up and bought an iMac.
Like John I will NEVER go back to a PC.

So your iMac is not a PC? Do you share it with everybody? I have a PC that is running a Microsoft OS. I do not have to deal with pop-ups. I have them blocked with a pop-up blocker. I don't have spyware. I run a spyware program. I haven't had a virus in the past 10 years. I run antivirus software. So what are you trying to say.

By the way I am not a Microsoft enthusiast. I have deployed a great many Unix and Linux applications in my career and believe that the best application and OS should always be used for the given situation. Rarely has that ever been based on a Apple solution.

You can do the same things

Duane Ellison said:
on a PC I just want to USE my computer - not fight with it...

--
Duane...

--

'We all have photographic memories. Some of us just don't have very big CF cards.'

TIMartin · Oct 1, 2005

Frank C. said:
Apple caters to a niche market. Everythiing comes out later and
is more expensive on an Apple ( both hardware and software ).
I agree it is always on the technological cutting edge but
I don't think it is worth the bother, unless you gotta make
a fashion statement to your clients or something.... =)

Frank,

The Mac market is not a niche market inasmuch as the Windows market
is not a niche market. Perhaps the Mac market used to be niche.
It is true that the Mac market is a quickly re-emerging market.

For example, I run an Oracle database on my Mac. I run Microsoft Office on my Mac.
I can connect to Microsoft VPNs from my Mac. Firefox, for example, is released

mostly simultaneously on Mac & Windows. I use it on both. If I must use Internet
Explorer, then I have it for both. These are everyday development and

producivity tools that do not really fit into a niche label. Perhaps your awareness
of Apple/Mac is a little dated.

Perhaps Mac users currently need to be a bit more resourceful in finding tools
that suit their needs; however, there is no shortage of good, available tools.

The biggest exception in my routine I have found is Microsoft Visio and
ESRI's ArcGIS. These are not available for Mac; however, if necessary,
I fire-up Windows XP on my Mac (in a Window) & use Visio & ESRI there.
I haven't found a Mac emulator for my Windows boxes yet.

The analogy of Nikon versus Canon for Mac versus Windows is probably a good one.

But now this thread is digressing to a point where it is more inappropriate for this forum.

Regards,

-- Tim

Robert Peters · Oct 1, 2005

maddog57 said:
Duane Ellison said:

maddog57 said:

What you won't have to put up with is a bunch of pop-ups, spyware,
and viruses and having to buy third party stuff to protect yourself
at the OS level.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

maddog57 said:

That is the key right there! Earlier this year after a long fight
with spyware and viruses I finally gave up and bought an iMac.
Like John I will NEVER go back to a PC.

Click to expand...

So your iMac is not a PC? Do you share it with everybody? I have

No.. His iMac is a pc.

maddog57 said:
a PC that is running a Microsoft OS. I do not have to deal with
pop-ups. I have them blocked with a pop-up blocker.

Extra software?

maddog57 said:
I don't have
spyware. I run a spyware program.

I have never had to run anything.

maddog57 said:
I haven't had a virus in the
past 10 years. I run antivirus software.

Ditto my previous comment.

maddog57 said:
So what are you trying
to say.

By the way I am not a Microsoft enthusiast. I have deployed a
great many Unix and Linux applications in my career and believe
that the best application and OS should always be used for the
given situation. Rarely has that ever been based on a Apple
solution.

You can do the same things

maddog57 said:

on a PC I just want to USE my computer - not fight with it...

--
Duane...

Click to expand...

--
'We all have photographic memories. Some of us just don't have
very big CF cards.'

Bob Peters

Bill Karadimos · Oct 1, 2005

Duane Ellison said:
Duane Ellison said:

What you won't have to put up with is a bunch of pop-ups, spyware,
and viruses and having to buy third party stuff to protect yourself
at the OS level.

Click to expand...

That is the key right there! Earlier this year after a long fight
with spyware and viruses I finally gave up and bought an iMac.
Like John I will NEVER go back to a PC. You can do the same things
on a PC I just want to USE my computer - not fight with it...

--
Duane...

I have used Windows based PC for years and have never had the prob you are talking about, But I also know that computers are popup magnets (Windows and yes Apple) so I do what all other users do. Install protection, If you have the right software installed you shouldn't have any probs, It blame it on windows is lame.
--

Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming - ' Wow! What a ride!'

Greg Lhotka · Oct 1, 2005

Well I am not going to get in on the Mac / Wintel debate. I use both at work but have Mac's at home.

As for the Price, Apple controls the price so your not going to get a big discount anywhere.

BUT....You can do what I did, Apple sells referb machines through the on line apple store. That is how I bought my lastest laptop. It comes with the full warranty.

Go to Apple.com, Click on the store, scroll down and click on red tag labeled SAVE.

http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPLE/WebObjects/AppleStore.woa/73104/wo/of63ZpNfGjBo3FfNBVtOBL85daD/0.0.15.1.0.6.63.0.0.0.0.0.0.3.1.1.0?85,53

The other way is to find a student or teacher that will get you the education discount.

Two notes: 1) You will need at least a Gig of ram. 2) On powerbooks, I would $300 and get Apple care, it extends your warranty to 3 years it is worth the money, though you may never need to use it.

Greg

maddog57 · Oct 1, 2005

Robert Peters said:
maddog57 said:

Duane Ellison said:

Robert Peters said:

What you won't have to put up with is a bunch of pop-ups, spyware,
and viruses and having to buy third party stuff to protect yourself
at the OS level.

Click to expand...

Click to expand...

Robert Peters said:

That is the key right there! Earlier this year after a long fight
with spyware and viruses I finally gave up and bought an iMac.
Like John I will NEVER go back to a PC.

Click to expand...

So your iMac is not a PC? Do you share it with everybody? I have

Click to expand...

No.. His iMac is a pc.

Robert Peters said:

a PC that is running a Microsoft OS. I do not have to deal with
pop-ups. I have them blocked with a pop-up blocker.

Click to expand...

Extra software?

Nope. Pop-up blocker is part of MS Internet Explorer. It works quite well and gives me the option of allowing pop-ups for sites that I need them. I also use Mozilla and it has a pop-up blocker as well. No alliances here.

Robert Peters said:
Robert Peters said:

I don't have
spyware. I run a spyware program.

Click to expand...

I have never had to run anything.

There are reasons that people right spyware and viruses to target M$. One reason is a distinct hatred for Mr. Gates. That however is not the main reason. The main reason is that M$ by far has the #1 share of the market. If you are going to take the time to write a program like that you are going to want to affect the most people you can. Why bother with MAC users. It used to be that IE was the only browser that got exploited. When Mozilla started to gain market share they also succumbed to exploitation. No one is exempt. It is just a matter of numbers.

Robert Peters said:
Robert Peters said:

I haven't had a virus in the
past 10 years. I run antivirus software.

Click to expand...

Ditto my previous comment.

Also see my previous comment.

Like I said. I am not a M$ enthusiast. But let's be real here.

Robert Peters said:
Robert Peters said:

So what are you trying
to say.

By the way I am not a Microsoft enthusiast. I have deployed a
great many Unix and Linux applications in my career and believe
that the best application and OS should always be used for the
given situation. Rarely has that ever been based on a Apple
solution.

You can do the same things

Robert Peters said:

on a PC I just want to USE my computer - not fight with it...

--
Duane...

Click to expand...

--
'We all have photographic memories. Some of us just don't have
very big CF cards.'

Click to expand...

Bob Peters

--

'We all have photographic memories. Some of us just don't have very big CF cards.'

maddog57 · Oct 1, 2005

TIMartin said:
Frank C. said:

Apple caters to a niche market. Everythiing comes out later and
is more expensive on an Apple ( both hardware and software ).
I agree it is always on the technological cutting edge but
I don't think it is worth the bother, unless you gotta make
a fashion statement to your clients or something.... =)

Click to expand...

Frank,

The Mac market is not a niche market inasmuch as the Windows market
is not a niche market. Perhaps the Mac market used to be niche.
It is true that the Mac market is a quickly re-emerging market.

Perhaps you need to get around a bit more. In the 17 years I've been in the business I have dealt with IBM, Apple, Mac, Microsoft, Sun (all the way back to Sun 3 series) Linux, Prime (anybody remember them), among other off the wall Operating Systems. The one constant you will see when you walk into almost any workplace is that there will be Microsoft based PC's. At the server level it is a different story. Many ISP's are using Linux solutions. Many server applications are Unix based. I think Apple is trying to break into this market. But on the desktop, M$ rules. It is not a niche, it is a standard. Mac is still and most likely will always be a niche desktop computer.

TIMartin said:
For example, I run an Oracle database on my Mac. I run Microsoft
Office on my Mac.

TIMartin said:
I can connect to Microsoft VPNs from my Mac.

TIMartin said:
Firefox, for example,
is released
mostly simultaneously on Mac & Windows. I use it on both. If I
must use Internet
Explorer, then I have it for both. These are everyday development and
producivity tools that do not really fit into a niche label.
Perhaps your awareness
of Apple/Mac is a little dated.

Perhaps Mac users currently need to be a bit more resourceful in
finding tools
that suit their needs; however, there is no shortage of good,
available tools.

The biggest exception in my routine I have found is Microsoft Visio
and
ESRI's ArcGIS. These are not available for Mac; however, if necessary,
I fire-up Windows XP on my Mac (in a Window) & use Visio & ESRI
there.
I haven't found a Mac emulator for my Windows boxes yet.

Yet it almost sounds that you are trying to emulate a Windows computer with your MAC. Why not save some money and go with a high end Windows PC. Now if you were arguing open source vs. M$ that would be a whole different story.

TIMartin said:
The analogy of Nikon versus Canon for Mac versus Windows is
probably a good one.

But now this thread is digressing to a point where it is more
inappropriate for this forum.

Regards,

-- Tim

--

'We all have photographic memories. Some of us just don't have very big CF cards.'

Duane Ellison · Oct 1, 2005

Wow - never been involved with a religious war before... Just stating my preferences and experiences. Really I could care less what anyone else uses be it software, cameras, computers, cars, guns, scopes... It doesn't matter as long as you are happy with what you are using. I am happy with my Apple and that's my opinion. I also like Ruger law enforcement sniper rifles and that isn't a popular view either (everyone else is using the Remington model)... So pick and use whatever you want - and if it isn't fun or enjoyable switch to something else...

--
Duane...

tugelbend · Oct 1, 2005

TIMartin said:
Frank,

TIMartin said:
I use the tool most appropriate for the task at hand. Mac OS X
suits many of my tasks;
perhaps it would suit some of yours too.

--
-- Tim

I agree with Tim. I use a Win XP PC ( home built, 3.2 Ghz) for my business. It handles games and Photoshop CS very well. I also have a Mac Mini and an old DV400 iMac Lime.

All work fine with Photoshop CS, all of them recognise the D50, all of them are networked so if I have a picture on one, I can view or alter it from any other.

I dont think either is the best at everything, but I like using the Mac Mini more than the PC, but thats personal preference.

I dont think you will notice much difference using Photoshop CS on either platform, but I have found it runs better on my Mac Mini, but that could be because the Mac isnt running spyware and antivirus in the background all the time.

So, buy a Mac for your Nikon. If you want to play games, get a PC. Then, you have the best of both worlds.

allan

--
Visit my growing gallery at http://allanmacdonald61.fotopic.net

USVI4ME · Oct 1, 2005

Switched to the Powerbook five years ago, now have a 17" G4 Powerbook and love it. Will never go back to the PC.
--
-L-
Sony DSC717 on the bottom of the ocean - now happy with D70

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