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the new 70-300IS vs 70-200/4 w/wo 1.4X

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How would anyone know? No one has seen the new 70-300. It shouldn't be too long though. Perhaps a month or less.

That said, it would be hard to imagine it would be as sharp as the 70-200 f/4L. Probably not even as good as the 70-200 f/4L with 1.4x TC, but we don't know that yet.
 
Just got a phone call today from the shop. :) Ordered mine from a store in Calgary. Hopefully it'll arrive next week.
 
together with the 24-105L

the price of the new 70-300IS is a little bit more than the 70-200/4 cuz of the inclusion of UD lens.

hence, i would if it can get close to the L. from the MTF, it looks much better than the old 75-300
JimStrutz said:
How would anyone know? No one has seen the new 70-300. It shouldn't
be too long though. Perhaps a month or less.

That said, it would be hard to imagine it would be as sharp as the
70-200 f/4L. Probably not even as good as the 70-200 f/4L with 1.4x
TC, but we don't know that yet.
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Yes it has.
JimStrutz said:
How would anyone know? No one has seen the new 70-300. It shouldn't
be too long though. Perhaps a month or less.

That said, it would be hard to imagine it would be as sharp as the
70-200 f/4L. Probably not even as good as the 70-200 f/4L with 1.4x
TC, but we don't know that yet.
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Cogito ergo spud.
 
Glazers in Seattle has a demo copy in right now. The clerk offered to let me take samples with my flash card, but I didn't have one with me. Pfui! Handling wise, though, it seemed to focus more quickly than the old 75-300, but not as briskly as the 70-200 f/4. The IS seemed pretty quiet. I'm quite anxious to see how the lens performs.
 
Eden,

I love it. It really IS fantastic. No, it's not the 70-200 f/2.8 IS, but it doesn't try to be, and it isn't priced to be. Nonetheless, for an f/4-5.6 lens, I find it to be tremendously sharp and vivid, and its IS absolutely rocks. I can shoot 1/15 handheld at 300mm. Yes, "WOW".

With a TC, I'd have to say that the 70-200 and 70-300 have to be pretty close to each other in everything expect aperture, as the 70-200 will retain f/4 throughout. On the other hand, the 70-300 is SO easy to carry, it is, without a doubt, the lens I will take with me (alongside my 24-105) when travelling most of the time. It's sharp wide open and just a very, very good performer overall.

It certainly behaves more like the 70-200 than the old 75-300, and I think the biggest problem is that people think it SHOULD be a 70-200 f/2.8 IS. Well, it's not. It's not a 100-400 L either, but it's damn close, and I am sure that it would be difficult for the vast majority of shots to be distinguishable among them. It is a virtually perfect compact tele-zoom from what I can tell, and once you mix in all of the factors, including price, performance, usefulness, ergonomics, it would certainly be among the top 3 or 4 lenses I am glad I own.
Eden Yip said:
Elan Remford said:
JimStrutz said:
How would anyone know? No one has seen the new 70-300. It shouldn't
be too long though. Perhaps a month or less.

That said, it would be hard to imagine it would be as sharp as the
70-200 f/4L. Probably not even as good as the 70-200 f/4L with 1.4x
TC, but we don't know that yet.
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Cogito ergo spud.
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Cogito ergo spud.
 
for what it is worth.......................
I tried the NEW 70-300 IS ...w/ and w/out a tamron 1.4x SP ...
and alongside a 70-300 DO IS...w/ and w/out a tamron 1.4x SP ...

DO focused a little quicker..
I.S. were same performance... down to 1/20 or so @ 300mm

the light was pretty bad at the counter...
so the focus-lock... with tele conv... was not so stable.. for either

I found the NEW lens about as sharp as the DO...
to the crude limits of my comparisons...

front rotates, it is longer, no FTM ... so?...
I dont mind that... TOO MUCH..

but at less than 1/2 price..

I will put the tamron on sometimes... as needed..
but to have 300 mm.. will be nice..

I will still get a 300 f4 IS for ... sharp tele andmid macros..
it is unbeatable ... a different ball game...

but the 70-300 will go well with my 17-85...and be very useful...
to its limits...

IFF ... DELL ships it in a week or so..
 
Elan Remford said:
Eden,

I love it. It really IS fantastic. No, it's not the 70-200 f/2.8
IS, but it doesn't try to be, and it isn't priced to be.
Nonetheless, for an f/4-5.6 lens, I find it to be tremendously
sharp and vivid, and its IS absolutely rocks. I can shoot 1/15
handheld at 300mm. Yes, "WOW".
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i meant compared to 70-200/4 not the 2.8 IS version.

In HK, the new 70-300 IS is priced at a little bit more ( USD 70) than the 70-200/4. i like to see any head to head comparsion of these 2 lenses.

i am also thinking if canon would soon upgrade 70-200/4 with IS after the success of 24-105L, the first IS in its F4 L product line.
Elan Remford said:
With a TC, I'd have to say that the 70-200 and 70-300 have to be
pretty close to each other in everything expect aperture, as the
70-200 will retain f/4 throughout. On the other hand, the 70-300
is SO easy to carry, it is, without a doubt, the lens I will take
with me (alongside my 24-105) when travelling most of the time.
It's sharp wide open and just a very, very good performer overall.
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do u mean the new 70-300 is sharp wide open? is it still good beyond 200mm?
Elan Remford said:
It certainly behaves more like the 70-200 than the old 75-300, and
I think the biggest problem is that people think it SHOULD be a
70-200 f/2.8 IS. Well, it's not. It's not a 100-400 L either, but
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no, i rather compare it to 70-200/4
Elan Remford said:
it's damn close, and I am sure that it would be difficult for the
vast majority of shots to be distinguishable among them. It is a
virtually perfect compact tele-zoom from what I can tell, and once
you mix in all of the factors, including price, performance,
usefulness, ergonomics, it would certainly be among the top 3 or 4
lenses I am glad I own.
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btw, have u received your 5D? i sold my 70-200/4 becuz it's too long on 1.6X. with the possibility of FF i am thinking to buy back the 70-200/4. the new 70-300 IS is a tempting alternative if it is on par with the L

i am still in the decision between 5D and 1N.

yesterday, i went to the local dealer they said all 5D sold out in one day. i was allowed to test feel the weight of a 1D2 without battery & lens. I am surpised, it's very light!!! would it weight much differently with a battery?
 
i meant the comparsion to 70-200/4 with / witout TC.

with TC, the 70-200/4 will become a 98-280/5.6 comparable to the spec of the new 70-300IS.
Guitarman said:
for what it is worth.......................
I tried the NEW 70-300 IS ...w/ and w/out a tamron 1.4x SP ...
and alongside a 70-300 DO IS...w/ and w/out a tamron 1.4x SP ...

DO focused a little quicker..
I.S. were same performance... down to 1/20 or so @ 300mm
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Guitarman said:
the light was pretty bad at the counter...
so the focus-lock... with tele conv... was not so stable.. for either

I found the NEW lens about as sharp as the DO...
to the crude limits of my comparisons...
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on par with the DO lens? hmm... is it a compliment? :>
Guitarman said:
front rotates, it is longer, no FTM ... so?...
I dont mind that... TOO MUCH..
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no FTM? shouldn't the micro-USM be able FTM, just like the 50/1.4?
Guitarman said:
but at less than 1/2 price..

I will put the tamron on sometimes... as needed..
but to have 300 mm.. will be nice..

I will still get a 300 f4 IS for ... sharp tele andmid macros..
it is unbeatable ... a different ball game...

but the 70-300 will go well with my 17-85...and be very useful...
to its limits...

IFF ... DELL ships it in a week or so..
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sorry - Igues I got that backwards...

the tamron is quite good and the kenko pro..I hear is even better if not the same product...
ON my macro it shows no real noticeable difference
so I assume on any REALLY SHARP lens. will look good

so we are back to your original conditions...

I say it HAS to look better @ 200 +1.4x Sp (or kenko pro)
than any aperture on the 70-300 @ 300 ....

and my specultation is nearly worthless...

you need a picture or two
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I WONDER why someone does not have all these lens... and new ones as they come out...

test them and charge $.25 to look at results...
or have a 'ad-rich' site to see them...
 
The battery for the 1D2 is pretty heavy and the body with the battery certainly has some heft to it.

If the 70-300 IS is close to the quality of the 100-400 IS then you can conclude that the 70-200mm f/4L will be better since the 70-200mm f/4L is generally regarded as being better than the 100-400 IS.

Greg

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Funny...your bad news is my good news...
they said mine would shipp around 10th to 15th..
but I have not rcvd any official ship date in an email...

maybe this will be one of these long weird dreams I have read about from DELL ....

I seriously felt it was close to the DO in sharpness.. not better or worse in my limited look.. In Other Words ... nothing showed me a worse picture

I believe I DID not get a DO .. after 2 near purchases...
due to the .... 'glow' I see in a lot of the pics...

I believe it is a good sub for the DO... at a savings

my macro has spoiled me...and also that 300 f4 I rent....
but I wont see those mtf lines from this lens...I know

FYI
to these speculations please add THIS
http://www.photozone.de/8Reviews/canonFAQ.htm
about 3/4 way down this long page..
is a chart...
at the bottom of the chart are the two lenses in question ...
the DO and NEW 70-300 ...

it is just a chart...but whose info is that based on?
I believe based on the MTF...

keep OUR fingers crossed ..but we MAY have a winner...bargain lens...

ha!...that rotates, has no FTM and is longer than a bread box...he he!

LATER
 
Hello guys the camera shop called me today and my 70-300IS lens is in, going to pick it up today. Will post results once I've had a chance to test the lens......hoping for the best.
 
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