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Timothy W.

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I know Phil states that it has a caoted magnisium body, and over at Steves digicams he says"Sony's latest top of the line Cyber-shot camera, the R1 is encased in a black, magnesium alloy body, and is the first to use Sony's new 10.3-megapixel CMOS imager and the first "large imager" camera to offer live preview."

I wonder if this can be clarified. Although it sure looks like a solid feeling camera. Thats one thing the 828 sure had going for it was its feel, and with the R-1 sensor and specs it looks like so far that this camera will have the brains to match the body!
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Timothy W. said:
I know Phil states that it has a caoted magnisium body, and over
at Steves digicams he says"Sony's latest top of the line Cyber-shot
camera, the R1 is encased in a black, magnesium alloy body, and is
the first to use Sony's new 10.3-megapixel CMOS imager and the
first "large imager" camera to offer live preview."
I wonder if this can be clarified. Although it sure looks like a
solid feeling camera. Thats one thing the 828 sure had going for it
was its feel, and with the R-1 sensor and specs it looks like so
far that this camera will have the brains to match the body!
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The prototype I had was made of cheap plastic, and this was my main objection to the camera's construction. However, if the final version is made of magnesium alloy, this will be a great improvement and I will retract all my reservations regarding the camera's build quality. If it's true, it will be great news.

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Timothy W. said:
Well Steves digicams says it is Mag. Ally, Phil says it is plastic
coated mag alloy. Do I understand that You say it was totally
plastic?
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Yes. However, it seems to be a very early prototype made with the purpose of gathering feedback from photographers. I hoped they would change material in the production version, and mag body is really the best option. This prototype was so plasticky, it was the main reason for me not to consider buying it - it wouldn't last a month, not with my way of shooting, out in the woods, bumping into trees every now and then. :) But now, I'll seriously consider it as a backup to my primary system.

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it seems to me that it is an upgrade over f282 (obviously right?). well, i think that if they built f282 in magnesium alloy, the r1 should be the same too or even improved. i don't know, but what i have learned from most manufacturers, the new cameras should follow the same built and sometimes improved over their previous models. it sounds strange enough to me that if the f282 is in magnesium alloy yet r1 is in plastic??????? right? correct me if am wrong
 
Phang Yin Wai said:
it seems to me that it is an upgrade over f282 (obviously right?).
well, i think that if they built f282 in magnesium alloy, the r1
should be the same too or even improved. i don't know, but what i
have learned from most manufacturers, the new cameras should follow
the same built and sometimes improved over their previous models.
it sounds strange enough to me that if the f282 is in magnesium
alloy yet r1 is in plastic??????? right? correct me if am wrong
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I looked at the pictures at Steve's, and there is no mention of magnesium alloy, and the thing looks the same as the plasticky PoS I had with me, so I don't know anymore - maybe they decided to skimp on build quality to finance the bigger sensor.

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I went back to Steves to see where this was written so I could post it for you, but it appears Steve has edited out the "Alloy Magnisium body" and now does not say anything about the body! hmmmmm. Perhaps it is plastic junk? Not a good thing!
Danijel Turina said:
Phang Yin Wai said:
it seems to me that it is an upgrade over f282 (obviously right?).
well, i think that if they built f282 in magnesium alloy, the r1
should be the same too or even improved. i don't know, but what i
have learned from most manufacturers, the new cameras should follow
the same built and sometimes improved over their previous models.
it sounds strange enough to me that if the f282 is in magnesium
alloy yet r1 is in plastic??????? right? correct me if am wrong
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I looked at the pictures at Steve's, and there is no mention of
magnesium alloy, and the thing looks the same as the plasticky PoS
I had with me, so I don't know anymore - maybe they decided to
skimp on build quality to finance the bigger sensor.

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Quote at dpnow.................

so much budget went into the large 10 megapixel sensor that economies had to be made elsewhere - the chassis is plastic, not cast alloy as in the F-828
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Timothy, a lot is made of metal or plastic. Doesn't really matter. For example, Rebels are made of high-impact plastic. Plastic is not a bad thing. Besides I doubt if most of us intend to take our cameras out in the desert or roll over them with our cars or drop them onto the floor.

I think Phil says it well in his preview: "The entire camera feels weighty and solid. Build quality and finish are very good, the DSC-R1 certainly feels purposeful."

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I've been looking forward to the 828 replacement for over a year, but if it is made of crappy plastic I wont buy it.

I want a solid, great feeling camera like the 828 and I'm prepared to pay extra for the quality.
 
Some plastic is way better than any cheap cast metal. The quality of the plastic is what counts. If you are simply biased against plastic, almost all have some, some more than others.

This is all kinda stupid as the release and final specs are not out yet.

"Crappy Plastic" . . . what a joke!

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That pre-production model looks like it is made of cheap plastic and people from this forum who have touched a pre-production medel described it as being made of cheap plastic.

If between now and the released model they change it to a simular quality to the 828, be it via a high quality plastic or magnesium alloy, then I'll certainly be interested in buying the camera.

I wont jump ship just yet :-)
 
Spooky66 said:
That pre-production model looks like it is made of cheap plastic
and people from this forum who have touched a pre-production medel
described it as being made of cheap plastic.
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It is quite possible for them to change the material and use plastic of higher quality; I certainly wouldn't mind a policarbonate/kevlar composite or something similar; I might actually prefer it, because it would be lighter and still very resistent to impacts. However, the pre-production sample was made of very cheap plastic- PE, PP or something similar, basically it felt cheap and I strongly disliked it. If it collided with a tree or a rock, it would spill guts all over. With my E1, if it falls on a rock, a chunk of rock will most likely break off.

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Stupid it may sound, but the fact is at one time stevesdigicams listed it as being made of Mag alloy, then all of a sudden he removed the Mag Alloy from his r1 preview. I found that kind of strange. I like the feel of the 828 in my hands. I was just hopping the r1 feels as solid. I am at the turning point of a dslr, but perhaps the r1 right up my ally. But I guess we wont know any more details untill the rooster lays her eggs!
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Yah I've been to a camera show and the lighting is terrible. It's like a warehouse and it has dim lights. I took pictures with the H1 and they didn't look good. But when I got my hands on the H1 when I bought it and used it in real life, the pictures were amazing!!!
 
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