LMC54
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Your a good man Joseph!!!! I'm glad you feel that way.
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Returned my S85 - probably will get the 707 but...
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Joe M.
Leading Member
Crutchfield has a great return policy. 30 days No questions Asked. I purchased a Car Sub. from them and it came there was a scratch on the cone. had a replacement the next day and I sent the bad one back postage prepaid by them.
Awsome Return Policy.
I think I have given them at least a 5 or 6 thousand dollars over the years.
The only problem with buying products from them is that they are always high priced and will not price match with anyone, authorized or not.
they do have a nice easy pay option though which I have used a few times. It works as stated.
Thanks
Awsome Return Policy.
I think I have given them at least a 5 or 6 thousand dollars over the years.
The only problem with buying products from them is that they are always high priced and will not price match with anyone, authorized or not.
they do have a nice easy pay option though which I have used a few times. It works as stated.
Thanks
probepro
Senior Member
Oh yes, the Pro90. There have been rumors in the Canon forum that there will not be a new IS lens for the 4-5 MP sensors. This is disappointing, because Canon will have to do better than bolting the current 10x IS zoom to a G2. It's quite possible the Pro90 series is over, and the Canon will concentrate on DC's with interchangeable lenses for the prosumer market, rather than trying to compete with Sony in the high-end EVF fixed lens market. It's interesting that folks are still buying the Pro90 IS for more money than the F707. Now this is real brand loyalty.
Stever46789
Senior Member
Brian isn't just taking advantage of the return policy HE IS ABUSING IT! He has NO intention of keeping the canon, he made that perfectly clear. If you all still think this is okay then you are all cracked!!
That is like buying a Wide Screen TV the week before the Super Bowl, then returning it the week after. This is not Rent-a-Center, these are retail establishments, and I for one don't want an extra couple of bucks added to the cost of products I buy because you morons like to "rent" things from stores.
Holy crap!
Stever
That is like buying a Wide Screen TV the week before the Super Bowl, then returning it the week after. This is not Rent-a-Center, these are retail establishments, and I for one don't want an extra couple of bucks added to the cost of products I buy because you morons like to "rent" things from stores.
Holy crap!
Stever
Stever46789
Senior Member
Joseph:
You don't go into it intending to return things, do you? He KNOWS he is going to return that camera after he has used it for a month.
Cheap.
You don't go into it intending to return things, do you? He KNOWS he is going to return that camera after he has used it for a month.
Cheap.
Stever--
I think you got this wrong.
First, what the guy said was that he was PROBABLY going to get a 707 when it appears, but that he wanted to try the Canon.
Next, he's buying from a store that makes part of its selling apparatus the return policy. That is, part of the store's sales incentive is that you can buy a product and return it if it doesn't meet your needs.
Next, while I never buy products KNOWING I'm going to return them, I often buy things that I return for one reason or another--they don't work as advertised, defective, don't do what I need done, quality comes up short, I realize it's not what I wanted in the first place, etc etc. The reasons are numerous.
Your assertion that this guy is abusing the return policy kind of sets you up as judge and jury in the situation, kind of the know it all, and for some reason that does not appeal to me. The idea that his (or anyone's) returning products is going to cost you money is laughable on it's face. Not how retail works.
Usually when a store allows returns this way it does so as a means of increasing its customer base. Once it has done that to a degree sufficient to satisfy its needs, the store will tighten up the policy. Two good examples of this are PCCONNECTION and OUTPOST.COM, both of which started with very liberal return policies as a means of drawing business. Both of which are now quite a bit more aggressive about limiting their returns. The fact is that as a percentage of total sales, returns are always quite small, and even an open door policy is not usually damaging to a retailer. As the margins narrow, or the overhead increases, or the management tries to squeeze every cent of profit out of its business, the perks such as 30 day returns are shut down.
Basically, your sympathies are misplaced. You ought to be on the side of the consumer, unless you are yourself a retailer, out there trying to take every dollar you can, and calling people childish names in the process.
I think you got this wrong.
First, what the guy said was that he was PROBABLY going to get a 707 when it appears, but that he wanted to try the Canon.
Next, he's buying from a store that makes part of its selling apparatus the return policy. That is, part of the store's sales incentive is that you can buy a product and return it if it doesn't meet your needs.
Next, while I never buy products KNOWING I'm going to return them, I often buy things that I return for one reason or another--they don't work as advertised, defective, don't do what I need done, quality comes up short, I realize it's not what I wanted in the first place, etc etc. The reasons are numerous.
Your assertion that this guy is abusing the return policy kind of sets you up as judge and jury in the situation, kind of the know it all, and for some reason that does not appeal to me. The idea that his (or anyone's) returning products is going to cost you money is laughable on it's face. Not how retail works.
Usually when a store allows returns this way it does so as a means of increasing its customer base. Once it has done that to a degree sufficient to satisfy its needs, the store will tighten up the policy. Two good examples of this are PCCONNECTION and OUTPOST.COM, both of which started with very liberal return policies as a means of drawing business. Both of which are now quite a bit more aggressive about limiting their returns. The fact is that as a percentage of total sales, returns are always quite small, and even an open door policy is not usually damaging to a retailer. As the margins narrow, or the overhead increases, or the management tries to squeeze every cent of profit out of its business, the perks such as 30 day returns are shut down.
Basically, your sympathies are misplaced. You ought to be on the side of the consumer, unless you are yourself a retailer, out there trying to take every dollar you can, and calling people childish names in the process.
Joe M.
Leading Member
No I don't I only return if unhappy with the Item or I find a better price. But nowadays most store will price match so the later does not apply.
Thanks
Thanks
Jay Jervey
Senior Member
You don't get it do you? Why do you think they charge a "restocking" fee for certain items (like notebook computers & digicams) and not others? Do you think it's harder to restock a digicam than a TV? No, tt's because unscrupulous lowlife take adavantage, that's why. The "restocking" fee is a deterrent. Go in and ask a manager why they do it.
Cubfan
Leading Member
I agree with you Stever, the end result of people "renting" digicams (and other products) is higher costs for everyone else. If you want to test drive a camera go to a store that has demo models available. When you buy a car you can take it out for a test drive, you can't take it home for 30 days...
Solomon
Senior Member
Steve is right on. Brian's intentions are simply wrong.
I think it is in all our interests to encourage stores to offer 30-day return policies. These are complex instruments. Even armed with the best reviews and word of mouth referrals, you often don't find things out until a week or so of shooting with the camera. To be able to return a purchase is a Godsend.
Brian's actions hurt the stores, discourages the 30-day return policy which enventually hurts all of us.
-EL
I think it is in all our interests to encourage stores to offer 30-day return policies. These are complex instruments. Even armed with the best reviews and word of mouth referrals, you often don't find things out until a week or so of shooting with the camera. To be able to return a purchase is a Godsend.
Brian's actions hurt the stores, discourages the 30-day return policy which enventually hurts all of us.
-EL
I used to own an art in San Francisco. If a client took home a Picasso and returned it because they didn't like it after they'd lived with it, that was acceptable. I sold it to the next person - for the same price. Nothing was lost in the value. And the customer who returned it felt valued and appreciated -- and returned to buy something else. It was a win/win situation.
Your stance isn't exactly tolerant there, brother. And to suggest that this is "American" is petty unfortunate. You seem not to have much respect for the customs of other cultures. Not everyone shares your beliefs.
Stever46789
Senior Member
Glen:
Read the post... I AM an American, so I think I am entitled to trash my own people thank you very much!
Also, unlike your Picasso, that digital camera he will return WILL lose value, that piece of art will only gain in value over time unless it is handled poorly.
Apples to Apples my friend. You are comparing grapes (sour ones at that) to these Apples.
Stever
Read the post... I AM an American, so I think I am entitled to trash my own people thank you very much!
Also, unlike your Picasso, that digital camera he will return WILL lose value, that piece of art will only gain in value over time unless it is handled poorly.
Apples to Apples my friend. You are comparing grapes (sour ones at that) to these Apples.
Stever
Stever46789
Senior Member
Thanks fellas.
The policy is typically in place for the average consumer, not the Jay Jervey's and Brian's of the world (the guys who sit 2 standard deviations out to the left).
Yes, it does cost us all money in one way or another, and Jay, if you think otherwise you are just as much a simpleton as the guy who before he purchases PLANS to retuen the camera.
Stever
P.S. He kept the memstick and accessories knowing he is going to buy the 707, so don't hand me this "he hasn't decided" crap either.
Stever
The policy is typically in place for the average consumer, not the Jay Jervey's and Brian's of the world (the guys who sit 2 standard deviations out to the left).
Yes, it does cost us all money in one way or another, and Jay, if you think otherwise you are just as much a simpleton as the guy who before he purchases PLANS to retuen the camera.
Stever
P.S. He kept the memstick and accessories knowing he is going to buy the 707, so don't hand me this "he hasn't decided" crap either.
Stever
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