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5D and the fate of APS and 4/3 DSLRs

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Raxel said:
At last canon released 'affordable' full frame DSLR, another
revolutionary movement after they released frst affordable DSLR,
300D.
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Affordable? Hmmm ... everything is affordable for someone i assume :) 3.500 euro is slightly more than affordable to me.

Roland
 
Probably make more than you....
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shinndigg
 
O, mejor dicho, probablemente gano más que usted...
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West Palm, did ya' notice he didn't mention Canon?? See, I can read just fine...
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See, that is what I like about other camera users, that is to say, those that use cameras other than Canon. Helpfull instead of insulting like PalmWest. Let me clarify that I'm certain not ALL Canon are as ignorant as PalmWest, nor nearly as rude. A workmate and my brother both own the 20D and aren't insulting. They actually appreciate photography for what it is, an art and appreciate the other tools available to create the art. they just appreciate a different tool.
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Let's make a comparision here between computers and DSLR's (which may be considered computers in and of themselves). As the years have passed, what has happened to computers? They have become INCREASINGLY SMALLER, to make them more mobile. There have been growing pains, but the end result is the same, smaller computers. A calculater of today can process millions times more info than a computer of even 20 years ago. That's part of the reason I think Oly's committment to a smaller sensor is the right direction. There have been growing pains (noise at high ISO being the only half legit arguement here), but as sensor technology continues to improve, others will see the advantage to smaller sensors. That doesn't mean that FF sensor technology will go to the wayside. It just means there will be more choices, and choice is ALWAYS a good thing, as it encourages progress. And as Forrest Gump said, 'That's all I got to say about that'.
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shinndigg
 
The real effect of Canon introducing another full 35mm frame sensor camera
is uncertainty for photographers buying systems.
Which one do you go for? Which ones will still be around in 10 years time.
All serious photographers would like smaller and lighter cameras but they
would also like 12mp to give the option of producing larger prints if they
want to. They would also like the option of usable ISO3200 even if they
rarely use it. Current sensor technology says you can't have 12mp and
low noise on an APS sensor.
For a while it seemed that Canons full frame 1Ds would be their medium
format competitor and APS sensors would be the mainstream. The Oylmpus
4/3 system could fit in as a smaller alternative. Now it is starting to look
as though Canon could go for a full 35mm frame as the mainstream. So
which lenses are a wise investment?
 
Ah, but Oly isn't doing it alone any longer. Panasonic is now into the 4/3 system as well and planning to produce some cameras, come next spring.

T3 wrote:
from scratch.
T3 said:
I was talking about larger sensor formats, ie APS and FF, whereas
Oly's 4/3 sensor is much smaller. Oly could have easily gone with
an APS sensor format, but they shunned it in the same way that Oly
stuck with manual focus on the OM and shunned autofocus.
Sometimes, going it alone simply means you end up...alone. And it
also paints them into a corner because they'll have more of a
challenge producing high performance low noise sensors with higher
pixel counts because their chosen sensor format is so much smaller.
I think Oly would have been better off if they had simply:
A) gone autofocus in the film SLR era,

B) gone APS in the DSLR era, and
C) stuck with a lens system based on full frame lenses (like manual
OM lenses and-- hypothetically-- autofocus OM lenses) with the
option of smaller "digital specific" lenses just like all the other
brands are doing.
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I agree. Also, most baby boomers born between 1950 and upwards, might just want the smaller sized camera bodies that APS or 4/3 format provide. Speaking for myself; after carrying heavy loads of SLR gear around for a long time, I eventually ended up with a Leica M4, for the main reason of its lesser bulk. The same reason I now embrace the Olympus 4/3 system. I think it will last a long time.
Donald Chin said:
Do you konw the exact size of APS-C sensor & 4/3 sensor? A simple
search in DP will give you the idea. :-)
IMO small sensor DSLR will remain as bread & butter for camera
manufacturers in years to come.

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you mean like these excerpts from your spelling

ALmost by definition it
still maitaining familiar sized lenses
other than Olympous that makes endoscopes.
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Now i have an excuse as english is obviously not my language and second i dont care about perfect spelling and grammar here but you ... sad .... i mean thats all you have ...

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PalmsWestPhoto said:
you mean like the web site that has the name just like your handle
plus .com that depicts you and mr bush in a somewhat awkward
position (well in reality you and a friend with bushes head
photoshopped) ?
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You never know. It may be me but Im sure you took a few second, third, ... looks at that web site

On the other had no one who is concerned about having a good business reputation would have posted the cr.ap that you post. Doesnt speak highly of you as a business owner.
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PalmsWestPhoto said:
3 years

well the AF in my current bodies is a lot older than that and runs
circles around it. AF hasnt been invented 3 years ago ...
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What AF is it?
 
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