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Duane Bong said:
That's big!... even my Canon 10D's images are a little soft at 20x30.
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the print inside the border is about 16x26. i figure that at about 135 dpi. which isn't awful. bare minimum is usually about 170dpi, so i MIGHT be able to cheat it a little.

the trade-off here is actually essential. you have to stand back a bit from prints bigger than a certain size.
 
Petteri Sulonen said:
You want to (routinely) make 20 x 30 prints... from an ultracompact?
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... i already do. you'd think i was crazy if i told you with what, and how. but since i am crazy it doesn't really matter.
Petteri Sulonen said:
Suit yourself. However, traditionally the optimal medium for that
print size has been medium-format or even 4 x 5 or more. IOW, don't
expect the world -- 'cause that's just not what compacts are
designed for, whether film or digital.
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well, no, i know. i own a 6x7cm mf camera, which probably has enough resolution to print that large tack sharp. i've never actually tried it, as i don't have the darkroom for it. but i do have a picture that's 44x32 (twice that size) from 35mm, originally. yes, it's grainy, originally from infrared film actually. since the grain is an integral aspect of the image and fully intentional, it looks just fine at that size.

mostly, i'm expecting to use this as a snapshot camera. but i figure that i can print at roughly 135 dpi for bordered 20x30 prints. i should be able to get away with that and still keep it acceptably sharp. i'm only worried about the noise because it looks ugly.
 
It's silly that a small sensor cameras has more megapixels than dslrs. Imagine the quality of the pics if the kept it at 5 megapixels. I wonder if this will be a step backwards in quality from my canon a75. I need a new small digi camara but I don't want to go backwards in terms of quality.. My a75 is dying on me and I'm just tired of pressing button after button to access features such as metering.. The lx1 is looking pretty good - but there are a few things not looking good..



canon a75,f4.5,1/60
 
i think it's kind of silly too. but that's the trend:

smaller, faster, more more more.

personally, my perfect camera is my old film nikon fm2.
 
Roland Karlsson said:
Bruce McL said:
The beginner will often want to email their pictures to relatives
and friends. They need a computer for that.
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Yepp - someone that is not all that computer savvy also needs some
help to do that. Most of all they need a semi automatic method for
making the picture into an acceptable size to mail. There are
software to do that - editors and picture handling software with
built in email support. Thats a good thing - not for you and me but
for many.

They also needs a simple tool for enhancing pictures - e.g.
removing red eyes and enhance the contrast of the image. Maybe also
some sharpening - but thats too easy to overdo IMHO. Also some
white balance - but that is not easy at all.
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All this in a program that can organise your pictures and download them directly from the camera? I think you described Apple iPhoto here :-)

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AK_2 said:
I could take a 1dmk2 image and make it look horrible by doing the
same.
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yeah, for a while my scanned film stuff looked about the same or worse for the same reasons.

my solution was to learn how to use an unsharp mask correctly, and use slower film.
 
PN said:
Simon Joinson said:
tenshi said:
Again, this is a preproduction model! So all the samples are only
for reference, not for serious comparison with other final
production models!
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I found the LX1 a really enjoyable camera to use (but then i love
the 16:9 format), and i HOPE the noise issue (which is a problem)
is solved in the final production cameras.
S
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Simon Joinson, dpreview.com
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I am sorry to say so, but your pictures show, at least for me, that
framing with 16/9 is not at all obvious. While #4, #8 and #13 make
good use of the format, #6 is an OK one-shot-panoramic, but most
other shots are thought in a different format and do not quite come
out as they should. #5 and #14 are real framing desasters.

I think that the gallery really demonstrates that the format is
exotic. Now exotic means would most of the time take pictures 2/3
or 3/4 for that matter. Interestingly enough, you did not choose to
take pictures in the more classic formats, like being worried of
losing pixels. My bet is that most users will fall into the same
trap although at 2/3, still ample resolution remains. Disadvantage
of course is that at 2/3, there is a lack of wide angle.

Hope you can accept my observation.

Cheers,
PN
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But you are basing your argument(s) on your opinion of my photography (which you obviously don't like!) These were taken in a hurry, shooting with 3 cameras simultaneously. The point is that if you like 16:9 this is the camera for you, if you don't, it isn't. I don't really see the point of arguing against the aesthetics of a particular aspect ratio - each to his own!
S
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Simon Joinson, dpreview.com
 
May very well be it.

So far, the available samples have been all over, from muddy to quite good.
The best I have seen are here on dpreview, from a pre-production model.
They print very well.

Nothing like cropping in camera. Forget cropping 200 photos from 4:3 when I come back from vacation and I want 6 x 4 prints. And no, I don't want to carry a DSLR shooting at 3:2.

Imagine looking at 16:9 pictures on a wide screen TV. Now, this is looking at pictures.
I want one, and the button will be on 16:9 or 3:2. Forget 4:3.
 
is perhaps "news" but not too newsworthy, if you ask me, images are WAY toooooooo noisy! Unless bad news is good news, as it often is in the medias.

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