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The *ist D was supposed to be in the same class of D100 and 10D in their old days.

Now, 20D seems to be over and the D200 is coming very soon, where and what is the Pentax's equivalent grade offer?? Will there be any???

See more D200 news below:-

http://alpseb.free.fr/D200/NikonImagingNikonD200.htm

http://www.infodigitalcamera.com/blog/15/d200-specification-2/

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Rice, those are not official sites, and Nikon has not announced the D200 yet. I would consider those sites hoaxes.

As for Pentax we know that a medium format DSLR is on the way and I'm sure the D replacement will be coming before my D needs to be replaced.

Les
RiceHigh said:
The *ist D was supposed to be in the same class of D100 and 10D in
their old days.

Now, 20D seems to be over and the D200 is coming very soon, where
and what is the Pentax's equivalent grade offer?? Will there be
any???

See more D200 news below:-

http://alpseb.free.fr/D200/NikonImagingNikonD200.htm

http://www.infodigitalcamera.com/blog/15/d200-specification-2/

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get the 'rule of thumb'!

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brew1brew said:
Rice, those are not official sites, and Nikon has not announced
the D200 yet. I would consider those sites hoaxes.
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The Nikon communities believe this is true so the chance for hoaxes is little.
brew1brew said:
As for Pentax we know that a medium format DSLR is on the way and
I'm sure the D replacement will be coming before my D needs to be
replaced.
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The MF DSLR is not something for most advanced amateurs, it's too expensive and too large. Also, I hope there is a choice for those *ist D users who want to upgrade , but there is none so far and in the foreseeable future. BTW, I got a DS to replace my D mostly, but I won't consider this is an "upgrade" indeed.

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RiceHigh said:
The *ist D was supposed to be in the same class of D100 and 10D in
their old days.

Now, 20D seems to be over and the D200 is coming very soon, where
and what is the Pentax's equivalent grade offer?? Will there be
any???
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It wouldn't surprise me if the 200D spec were true.

I think the current rumors for the next Pentax are:

10mp. Faster processor (hopefully higher frame rate 8-)
Probably 2.5" LCD.
Early next year.

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http://www.y3m.net/penwik/pmwiki.php/Main/PentaxLensWiki
 
Actually, I am hoping that the rumor may be true because Pentax may end up with the same sensor, a la what happened with the D100, D/DS etc. Would be a very good advancement. Pentax would have to respond with a substantially upgraded model to stay competitive.
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John Power
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Useful Links to Past Pentax Forum Threads and some Exceptional Images are at: http://www.solutns.com/pages/pentaxforum.html

 
I don't think it's a big secret that Pentax lags behind the the bigs by about a year. I you really want to chase the cutting edge, I'd recommend Canon.

Pentax may not offer the latest and greatest, but I think their cameras are very well thought out and well built.

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I agree. I have nothing but good things to say about the build quality of the *istD - lines
 
I will second that. Pentax, supposedly, isn't a company to make a Version 1.2 of anything. They take their time to work out what their product should be like, and not make a mess of things. Heck Minolta came later, but came up with quite a lovely product.
snow4ever said:
Pentax may not offer the latest and greatest, but I think their
cameras are very well thought out and well built.
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racehorse in the desert said:
Actually, I am hoping that the rumor may be true because Pentax may
end up with the same sensor, a la what happened with the D100, D/DS
etc. Would be a very good advancement. Pentax would have to
respond with a substantially upgraded model to stay competitive.
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

Useful Links to Past Pentax Forum Threads and some Exceptional
Images are at: http://www.solutns.com/pages/pentaxforum.html

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Hi John

I believe the 12MP CMOS sensor is a Nikon proprietary device, I doubt if they will offer it to others (sadly). I hope I'm wrong, but don't hold your breath.

I like many others suspect it will be a while before Pentax do anything to replace the D at the upper end of their offerings. In the film days they had the superb LX, which was a groundbreaker, then downhill after that with the Z1, then Z1-P and finally MZ-S, all were curates eggs, brilliant in some areas and poor in others (sufficient to stop sales) and offered poor perceived value to the punter.

I just have a bad feeling that this trend will continue, it seems embedded in the Pentax company DNA. The superb glass that was developed for the LX (A series lenses) was continued with the FA* and some FA lenses, there was an encouraging blip with the Limited's. Sadly, only some of the newer stuff has been above average, but none are simply brilliant like the A* and FA* lenses.

Lance, Brett, myself, and many others, spend inordinate amounts of time scouring the globe for the extremely rare FA* lenses, (10/10 to B&H for securing black 31 and 77mm Limited's and some other difficult FA lenses, I just wish they could secure the FA* zooms and tele lenses), it would be so productive if we could just go get them like a Canon or Nikon lens, even the independents are reluctant to make Pentax mount anymore. In the UK Tokina are no longer imported which is a blow, as they were about the best quality independent out there.

However I live in hope that the Pentax lens road map will be extended and of high (FA*) quality levels.

Rgds..
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richardday wrote:
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richardday said:
In the UK Tokina are no
longer imported which is a blow, as they were about the best
quality independent out there.
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What's this?

I hadn't heard this. No more Tokinas in the UK in any mount or just in Pentax mount?

[...]
 
OK,

I've found this:

It looks like this company may be taking over as Tokina importers for the UK:

http://www.sangers.com/

This is where I saw the information.

http://www.nikonians.org/dcforum/DCForumID17/1657.html

Intro 2020 No longer Tokina UK importers:

"It is true that Intro 2020 are no longer the importers of Tokina. I have an e-mail from them to this effect. They declined to say who would become the importer just that I should keep an eye on the photographic press.
This was the main text dated 15-07-05.

Hi Mike, as of today we are no longer the UK importers of Tokina products so all I can suggest is that you keep your eyes on the photographic press for an announcement as to who becomes the new UK distributor

Steve Hunt
Intro 2020 Sales"

Sangers Group taking over as UK Tokina Importers:

"I today's Amateur Photographer (20th August 2005) there is a news article about Sangers Group Ltd in Birmingham taking on the importation of Tokina, the 12-24 is featured as being available. Sangers can be contacted on 0870 444 0003. So good news at last!"
mpixel said:
mpixel said:
In the UK Tokina are no
longer imported which is a blow, as they were about the best
quality independent out there.
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What's this?

I hadn't heard this. No more Tokinas in the UK in any mount or just
in Pentax mount?

[...]
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Sony Semiconductor http://products.sel.sony.com/semi/about.html is the OEM for the sensors used by Pentax, and Nikon and KM and lots of others....

The DX sized CMOS chip they make for the Nikon D2x is one of their earlier attempts at large CMOS sensors for the traditional phtography market - but note they recently also started to sell a CMOS sensor in their new lower cost HDTV recorder that is getting good reviews from the video people (mostly because of its dramatically lower cost).

Anyway, I find it hard to beleive that Sony does not already have engineering samples of other CMOS APS-C size sensors available to Pentax et. al. for evaluation. One or two models probably, DX size, physically ready to slip in where their faithful CCD sensor has proved so useful, but of course the new sensor(s) is quite different and will require development of supporting electonics. So Pentax (and KM and Nikon and whoever) certainly are at a stage where cameras will be ready by next PMA, probably sooner.

When such cameras do hit the market, you will find (via the above link), eventually, a write up about those sensors on their news page.

-gt
 
richardday said:
Hi John

I believe the 12MP CMOS sensor is a Nikon proprietary device, I
doubt if they will offer it to others (sadly). I hope I'm wrong,
but don't hold your breath.
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This conceptual D200 is surely the "everymans" (well advanced> pro) version D2x - same sensor but more consumer specced.

The D2x is in another total class (price being one of the big measures) to the *istD, D70s, 20D etc. If there is to be a D200 perhaps it is bringing the super-high res sensor closer to the masses....
richardday said:
[snip] However I live in hope that the Pentax lens road map will be
extended and of high (FA*) quality levels.
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The Pentax interviews and roadmap point to their target market - low-mid users, picking up the traditional SLR cross over and those dissatisfied with the P&S digicams.

Richard, you are right that they have set a path for themselves over the last 20 years which certainly has them continuing in the same trajectory. But the fact that they have been able to (1) produce the somewhat unusual "Limiteds" (2) continue with FA* lenses through the 90s to recently and (3) produce the D FA Macros and target a High-Performance D FA Telezoom indicates at least the intention is there to have a place for the enthusiast-advanaced user.

It is inevitable that - provided they last as an independent maker - they will at some stage produce a more advance, higher res, faster DSLR --- just like PC/Macs get bigger/faster/better so will DSLRs. Even if they don't need to they will. It might take some time but it will happen... I think survival in this tough, fast-moving global market is the trickier question....

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Brett



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