Lens Cleaner brush...safe on D70 sensor?

BlixaFan · Aug 16, 2005

hey everyone,

i recently bought an Optex Lens Cleaner brush, (LP10 i think) and I have dust on my sensor. Its annoying me, so I'd like to clean it off...(air helped, but not enough)

is it safe for me to use this brush on the sensor??

thanks
mike (in vancouver)
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Benoit G · Aug 16, 2005

No I don't think it's safe. Do a search on Copperhill method with Eclipse solution and Pec Pads. You will find everything you need.
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jberth · Aug 16, 2005

The only safe 'blower' appears to be the Giotto Rocket blower - US$10 from somewhere like BHphoto.com. There are lots of reports here of other blowers leaving even more rubbish on your CCD than what you started with.

You certainly wouldn't rub your CCD (or the filter that covers it actually) with a brush now - would you ?

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/bnh/controller/home?O=productlist&A=details&Q=&sku=318545&is=REG&addedTroughType=search

Cheers

Justin

BlixaFan said:
hey everyone,
i recently bought an Optex Lens Cleaner brush, (LP10 i think) and I
have dust on my sensor. Its annoying me, so I'd like to clean it
off...(air helped, but not enough)

is it safe for me to use this brush on the sensor??

thanks
mike (in vancouver)
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travellerben · Aug 16, 2005

Of course it's safe to use a brush. Nikon has lent their name to an Optics Maintainance Kit that supplies a brush, pad and cleaner fluid. It's not obvious, but when you open the kit the instructions make it clear that it includes the cleaning of dslr sensors.

http://www.adorama.com/catalog.tpl?page=searchresults&searchinfo=Nikon%20Optics%20Maintenance%20Kit

Almost everyone on this board is making this issue much more complicated than it needs to be.
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travellerben · Aug 16, 2005

--Sorry, that reference does not lead directly to the kit like it's supposed to. Just type in the search block "Nikon Optics Maintenance Kit" and you will find it at $21.95.
Ben

BlixaFan · Aug 17, 2005

thanks a lot Ben
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Udo · Aug 17, 2005

Why would you use a $5 brush on a $1000 camera?

Get a brush specially made for sensor cleaning from http://www.visibledust.com . These brushes are very expensive. I bought one and found it works like a charm. And no, I do not get paid by visible dust.

Verkrazter Sensor.

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travellerben · Aug 17, 2005

Visible dust kit? By your reasoning I should be spending $3,000 to $6,000 for brush, soap, and chamois to wash my wife's $37,000 BMW. Actually I have probably less than $50 total in those cleaning items and they do the job very nicely. The same items also take care of the $24,000 Jetta that I drive.

Ben

SEAFOXFLA · Aug 17, 2005

--No where on the page dose it say to use on ccd sensor. spend the money and buy the correct brush.
Have you shot a Nikon lately?

P D Ferguson · Aug 17, 2005

BlixaFan said:
hey everyone,
i recently bought an Optex Lens Cleaner brush, (LP10 i think) and I
have dust on my sensor. Its annoying me, so I'd like to clean it
off...(air helped, but not enough)

is it safe for me to use this brush on the sensor??

The problem is that if you use this brush on anything else (like a lens), it will end up leaving more dust on your sensor that it cleans off. The advantage of PecPads is that they are use once, throw away. There's a good reason why this is the preferred method of cleaning a sensor.

Lionheart 705 · Aug 17, 2005

.........than any other I can ever recall on this forum.

I understand from a recent poster that the low-pass filter that sits on top of the CCD is made of lithium niobate. This is a crystal with a Mohs hardness rating of 5, meaning you can scratch it with a pocket knife, but just barely.

In other words, it is a very hard substance and unlikely to be damaged by tape, pads & liquid, brushes or anything else within reason that anyone other than a complete idiot is likely to use to clean it. It is after all only the filter, not the CCD itself we are cleaning.

For more see this link..

http://www.swiftgemsflame.co.uk/en-us/dept_4.html

Lionheart

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BlixaFan · Aug 18, 2005

so i gave the method above a shot, and it worked wonderfully. got rid of all the grime and dust on the sensor (with the exception of some in a corner that im going to attempt at getting tomorrow, after a good night of sleep)

no damage whatsoever, and the sensor looks like it did when i first got my D70.

i think its pretty safe to say that this scotch tape method is a good, easy and safe way of removing dust and spots on your sensor.
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Erciro · Aug 18, 2005

There is no way I would put something sticky in to my camera. seems such a great risk to me.

Lionheart 705 · Aug 18, 2005

Erciro said:
There is no way I would put something sticky in to my camera. seems
such a great risk to me.

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Lionheart 705 · Aug 18, 2005

BlixaFan said:
so i gave the method above a shot, and it worked wonderfully. got
rid of all the grime and dust on the sensor (with the exception of
some in a corner that im going to attempt at getting tomorrow,
after a good night of sleep)

no damage whatsoever, and the sensor looks like it did when i first
got my D70.

i think its pretty safe to say that this scotch tape method is a
good, easy and safe way of removing dust and spots on your sensor.
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Thanks and very glad you found it worked so well.

I do sometimes use a little isopropyl alcohol (can be obtained from chemists, doctors and medical wholesalers and is very inexpensive - £4 or so for half a litre here in the UK and enough for several lifetimes) on a pec-pad or similar is useful for any really stubborn greasy spots. It can leave a little smearing but strangely, tape seems to remove even this completely.

Lionheart

Dragons slain, trolls hung, drawn & quartered, (this is a completely free public service), witches burnt at the stake, serfs freed, maidens rescued, crusades fought, moats dug, sieges mounted, armour de-rusted, swords sharpened, boils lanced, teeth pulled, night soil collected, scolds bridled, outlaws hunted, virgins deflowered - call for free estimate

spiked · Aug 19, 2005

Using brushes dedicated to sensor cleaning is a good idea, to avoid contamination inevitable if you use them to clean other things.

But there's no need to pay big bucks for VisibleDust brushes. Soft nylon artist's brushes do the job nicely. You may have to wash out the sizing in them, as most come with it in for store display. I've been using a pair I bought on eBay for the better part of a year (they come with no sizing applied, ready to use), with great results. Do an ebay search on 'cleanskies brush'.

Here's a link to a good website describing the procedure:

http://194.100.88.243/petteri/pont/How_to/a_Brush_Your_Sensor/a_Brush_Your_Sensor.html

spike

Pov · Aug 19, 2005

They work GREAT and do not harm the sensor. Why take chances?
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Pov · Aug 19, 2005

unless you are FULLY informed about the risks. If you do a search you will find a number of posts from people who tried the tape method and ended up with sticky residue on their sensors.
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Lionheart 705 · Aug 19, 2005

Pov said:
unless you are FULLY informed about the risks. If you do a search
you will find a number of posts from people who tried the tape
method and ended up with sticky residue on their sensors.
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Please post the links with the evidence to support what they claim, as they never have. I'm not talking about contaminated tape - that is self evidently inconvenient (and very careless of course) and a risk that is equally present in any other method.

If it did by chance leave residue, so what? Just clean it off. Your sensor won't melt I promise you.............

Lionheart

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BlixaFan · Aug 19, 2005

Pov, scotch tape doesn't use glue....therefore there's no glue to leave behind...unless you use regular tape...then that would be a problem..

scotch tape is delicate enough to use...
it didnt leave any residue on mine....

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