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I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system (nomorecarts.com) and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks (inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks. Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
 
I believe using pigment-based inks on any glossy syrface will be a problem as they are not absorbed by the media or media coating but lie on the surface. So whether you purchase Cone or MediaStreet or another formula of pigment-based ink, you may still have the problem on glossy stock.

I don't know if using a top coating, such as Millenium-XE by Optima International ( http://www.optima-int.com -- Millenium-XE is a liquid laminate that is an ultra-violet light absorber) will improve the situation... I haven't tried it yet. (Note: their web site will be changing as of September 1st to be friendlier and able to take credit cards and PayPal for orders.)

Dennis
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing
fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system
(nomorecarts.com) and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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Dennis,

I am curious to know if you have ever ordered anything from Optima and had the distinct displeasure of dealing with them. NEVER again for me. That was an experience I'd just as soon forget.
Regards,
John Mitchell
Dennis Hays said:
I believe using pigment-based inks on any glossy syrface will be a
problem as they are not absorbed by the media or media coating but
lie on the surface. So whether you purchase Cone or MediaStreet or
another formula of pigment-based ink, you may still have the
problem on glossy stock.

I don't know if using a top coating, such as Millenium-XE by
Optima International ( http://www.optima-int.com -- Millenium-XE is
a liquid laminate that is an ultra-violet light absorber) will
improve the situation... I haven't tried it yet. (Note: their web
site will be changing as of September 1st to be friendlier and able
to take credit cards and PayPal for orders.)

Dennis
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
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I'd be real careful with Optima... There's a new thread on the Epson9000 list from a number of professional shops that have put out money and recieved nothing... along with their complete lack of customer service. (If any of the posters had positive things to say about either the product or company, i'd have taken it with more of a grain of salt.. but these expereinces were pretty abyssmal). I've seen this thread/subject come up about every few months with the same feedback. I'm not sure about cross-linking to other forums, so I'd just recommend going to the yahoo.groups site and looking up the Epson 9000 forum.

Just some advice to research before buying.

Jim
John Mitchell said:
Dennis Hays said:
I believe using pigment-based inks on any glossy syrface will be a
problem as they are not absorbed by the media or media coating but
lie on the surface. So whether you purchase Cone or MediaStreet or
another formula of pigment-based ink, you may still have the
problem on glossy stock.

I don't know if using a top coating, such as Millenium-XE by
Optima International ( http://www.optima-int.com -- Millenium-XE is
a liquid laminate that is an ultra-violet light absorber) will
improve the situation... I haven't tried it yet. (Note: their web
site will be changing as of September 1st to be friendlier and able
to take credit cards and PayPal for orders.)

Dennis
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
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As yet, I haven't. I had sent two emails to them regarding purchasing a small end-user quantity of Millenium -XE and, after the second post, someone from the company called me and we had a rather lengthy conversation. It was during this conversation that they alerted me to the change in the web site and that the formulations of their products were basically the same (Millenium-XE being the same chemical as Maxim-XE, just sold in smaller containers).

Their product was recommended to me by a fine-art digital artist.

I'd be interested in hearing of your dealings with them before I order (if I order).You can either post them here, if you'd like, or to me privately at [email protected], if you prefer.

Dennis
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
John Mitchell said:
Dennis Hays said:
I believe using pigment-based inks on any glossy syrface will be a
problem as they are not absorbed by the media or media coating but
lie on the surface. So whether you purchase Cone or MediaStreet or
another formula of pigment-based ink, you may still have the
problem on glossy stock.

I don't know if using a top coating, such as Millenium-XE by
Optima International ( http://www.optima-int.com -- Millenium-XE is
a liquid laminate that is an ultra-violet light absorber) will
improve the situation... I haven't tried it yet. (Note: their web
site will be changing as of September 1st to be friendlier and able
to take credit cards and PayPal for orders.)

Dennis
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
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I stand corrected!

A few people have written to me off line and told me of their experiences with Optima. A definite no-no.

Although there is no empirical knowledge that any of their formulas actually perform as Optima advertises, the customer service is less than a New York City street vendor selling Rolecks watches.

I prefer doing business with professionals, people that treat me with respect and, based on the feedback I received, I was wrong for even mentioning them.

A very public thank you to all that shared their experiences.

Dennis
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing
fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system
(nomorecarts.com) and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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Hi
I wish to be sure of what you are saying MIS inks are available from
http://www.inksupply.com/ or http: http://www.inkrefill.ca/
They are high quality dye based inks.
They also have a line of high quality quad and archeival inks.
The people at these sites would bend over backward to help a customer.
I am one of those people !
..
You mentioned cones and archeival and yellow clog and defective ink
And I would like to know who you are talking about......please
regards
Gerry Gray [email protected] http://www.inkrefill.ca
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Dennis Hays said:
A few people have written to me off line and told me of their
experiences with Optima. A definite no-no.
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. ..... and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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Hi SCOTT

I wish to be sure of what you are saying........... MIS inks are available from
http://www.inksupply.com/ or http://www.inkrefill.ca/
They are high quality dye based inks.
They also have a line of high quality quad and archeival inks.
The people at these sites would bend over backward to help a customer.
I am one of those people !
..

You mentioned nomorecarts and cones and archeival and yellow clog and defective ink ....with a web site address....
And I would like to know who you are talking about......please
regards
Gerry Gray [email protected] http://www.inkrefill.ca
====================================
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing
fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system
(nomorecarts.com) and purchased !!!!!!!! Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com)!!!!!!! so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are

defective. I talked to the !!!!!! people at at inksupply!!!!!!! and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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I have had this pint of yellow ink for over a year. It has recently clogged two cartridges. I do not think it is the ink that is to fault, I think it is too old. I am thinking of keeping my ink in one of those collapsible plastic containers used to prolong the life of film developing chemicals. I wonder if keeping it in the fridge would help? In my experience, even though I kept containers tight, the product would deteriorate, particularly dye, if there were air in the container. Obviously I am not a chemist, so I defer to people like Bryan Biggers to clue me in.
Leo Terminello
 
The customer service issues he's referring to were not with those companies.. they were with Optima International.

Although I don't speak for Dennis, all interactions I've had with http://www.inksupply.com , nomorecart, and Cone have been nothing short of stellar.

Jim
Gerry Gray said:
Dennis Hays said:
A few people have written to me off line and told me of their
experiences with Optima. A definite no-no.
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. ..... and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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Jim Collum is correct... I was referring to Optima. And I agree with him in regards to inksupply.com, nomorecarts.com, Cone (inkjetmall.com) and would add MediaStreet.com.

Dennis
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
jim collum said:
Although I don't speak for Dennis, all interactions I've had with
http://www.inksupply.com , nomorecart, and Cone have been nothing short of
stellar.

Jim
Gerry Gray said:
Dennis Hays said:
A few people have written to me off line and told me of their
experiences with Optima. A definite no-no.
http://www.DigitalSauces.com
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. ..... and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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Hi SCOTT

I wish to be sure of what you are saying........... MIS inks are available from

http://www.inksupply.com/ or http://www.inkrefill.ca/
They are high quality dye based inks.

They also have a line of high quality quad and archeival inks.

The people at these sites would bend over backward to help a customer.

I am one of those people !
..

You mentioned nomorecarts and cones and archeival and yellow clog and
defective ink ....with a web site address....

And I would like to know who you are talking about......please

regards
Gerry Gray [email protected] http://www.inkrefill.ca
====================================
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing
fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system
(nomorecarts.com) and purchased !!!!!!!! Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com)!!!!!!! so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
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scott58158 said:
defective. I talked to the !!!!!! people at at inksupply!!!!!!! and they
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scott58158 said:
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work.
Click to expand...
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing
fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system
(nomorecarts.com) and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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MIS..... Dye based inks are high quality
MIS..... Quad inks are high quality
MIS..... Archeival inks are high quality
Software reset for Epson printers
They are available with high quality service and excellent value from

http://www.inksupply.com/ or same http://www.missupply.com or http://www.inkrefill.ca/ thats me
..

When Scott says: purchased Cones pigmented archival inks..... yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are defective.....
I have no idea where Scott purchased, nor will he answer as he has an
INVALID email address.
..
Many thanks to people who have recognised error.
You will have to excuse my behavior....Some things I will not pass by!!!
Gerry Gray
******************************************************
Gerry Gray said:
I wish to be sure of what you are saying........... MIS inks are
available from

http://www.inksupply.com/ or http://www.inkrefill.ca/
They are high quality dye based inks.

They also have a line of high quality quad and archeival inks.

The people at these sites would bend over backward to help a customer.

I am one of those people !
..

You mentioned nomorecarts and cones and archeival and yellow clog and
defective ink ....with a web site address....

And I would like to know who you are talking about......please

regards
Gerry Gray [email protected] http://www.inkrefill.ca
====================================
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing
fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system
(nomorecarts.com) and purchased !!!!!!!! Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com)!!!!!!! so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
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Gerry Gray said:
defective. I talked to the !!!!!! people at at inksupply!!!!!!! and they
Click to expand...
Gerry Gray said:
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work.
Click to expand...
scott said:
I have a epson 1160 that is running piezo quad-tone inks and
getting wonderfull prints. I have a 750 with (missupply.com) dye
based inks and getting great prints for promos and pictures of my
kids etc. but not archival. I have a 2000p that I have been doing
fine art exhibition prints with and recently went to the CIS system
(nomorecarts.com) and purchased Cones pigmented archival inks
(inksupply.com) so I could continue to do fine art prints. However
the yellow continued to clog and come to find out the inks are
defective. I talked to the people at at inksupply and they
confirmed that they were having problems and refunded my money. I
now have the wonderfull task of finding inks that will work. My
friend and fellow photographer is using mediastreet archival inks
but doesn't like the fact that you can't print on glossy paper and
the amount of color shift under different lighting is a real
problem. I have purchased a new CIS system and am researching inks.
Let me know what your experiences are.
thanks
scott
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