Is this the end of the road for the optio family, as Pentax concentrates more on DSLRs, or will there be continued new top end models. If so, when would we expect to hear news of the next upgrade to the O450,550,555,750 line.
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Will there be a Optio 850
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Ernesto Cardenas
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Perhaps we have to look the sales in each segment of the market.
The Optios 450..750 are rivals of the S30..s70, V1..V3, perhaps the G3..G6, so a deep review of the results of this segment could be provide us an understanding of the reasons of the Pentax behaviour.
It looks clear that Pentax doesn't have intentions to compete in the DSLR-like (828,A2....) so perhaps they believe that the action is in the very compact segment and obviusly in the DSLR segment, and since Pentax have less resources than Canon they have to choose, and the sacrified was this segment, very intensive in innovations but not so profitable.
My 2 cents...
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The Optios 450..750 are rivals of the S30..s70, V1..V3, perhaps the G3..G6, so a deep review of the results of this segment could be provide us an understanding of the reasons of the Pentax behaviour.
It looks clear that Pentax doesn't have intentions to compete in the DSLR-like (828,A2....) so perhaps they believe that the action is in the very compact segment and obviusly in the DSLR segment, and since Pentax have less resources than Canon they have to choose, and the sacrified was this segment, very intensive in innovations but not so profitable.
My 2 cents...
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Hey Brian
I tend to agree with what you say.
I think the 750Z was Pentax's last effort with the Optio 5x zoom camera range
I'm serious when I say it makes me sad
I have an FZ5 and will possibly upgrade that to the FZ30 and my eldest will have the FZ5.
However, I won't be trading the 750Z for aby reason. It will die in my hands.
I would like faster processing speed and faster mechincs. I would like better low light action and a better designed LCD. I would like a tougher lens cover.
However, none of that really worries me too much.
The Optio 450,555,750 (and the 550 with it's "noise") are still not matched and this from a camera (in the case of the 450/550) 2-3 years old. There are very few cameras of that vintage that have lasted so well.
Nice work Pentax but the Panasonic LX1 and it's daughters/sons are likely to be the replacement to the 750Z when it dies (unless the 850 arrives).
Wazza
I tend to agree with what you say.
I think the 750Z was Pentax's last effort with the Optio 5x zoom camera range
I'm serious when I say it makes me sad
I have an FZ5 and will possibly upgrade that to the FZ30 and my eldest will have the FZ5.
However, I won't be trading the 750Z for aby reason. It will die in my hands.
I would like faster processing speed and faster mechincs. I would like better low light action and a better designed LCD. I would like a tougher lens cover.
However, none of that really worries me too much.
The Optio 450,555,750 (and the 550 with it's "noise") are still not matched and this from a camera (in the case of the 450/550) 2-3 years old. There are very few cameras of that vintage that have lasted so well.
Nice work Pentax but the Panasonic LX1 and it's daughters/sons are likely to be the replacement to the 750Z when it dies (unless the 850 arrives).
Wazza
Ernesto Cardenas wrote:
so perhaps they believe that the action
Brian
so perhaps they believe that the action
Maybe they can produce a compact camera without any compromise. If anyone can, it will be Pentax.
Brian
Yes, although I am not completely convinced on the LX1, it did make me look carefully, so maybe it could provide the evolution path to something great. It is let down by thickness a little, and loses resolution in 4:3 mode and gains no more zoom over the optio, plus noise is still a bit unknown.
Brian
Roland Mabo
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Hu? The Optio SVi has 5x zoom too... but it seems not to be on sale in all countries... I wonder what happened with it, it should be on sale now.
Take care
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There have been a lot of threads here about the deficiencies of the SV family, such as excessive jpg compression, slowness and corner sharpness, so I don't consider it to be a replacment for the 450 -750. -- yet!
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Kesha270057
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For me, I would like more that 1/1000 manual shutter speed, 1/2000 it's okay..
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barondla
Senior Member
the SV and 750 are being closed out by Pentax to dealers now. If you want one better buy quick. Hate to see them go.
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hamster_ken
Well-known member
it should have
1. better focus speed ...
2. support anti-shake / high ISO
3. better nosie cotrol .
4 .manual twist-barrel zoom control.
1. better focus speed ...
2. support anti-shake / high ISO
3. better nosie cotrol .
4 .manual twist-barrel zoom control.
I can deal with what I have in the 750Z but I have 7mp to play with so in low light I can zoom back and enjoy the faster AF
I don't need IS in the 5X, never had an issue with shake but higher ISO might be useful in the few times I need it
I have never really had issue with my 450 or 750Z wrt "noise". I prefer less "noise control" in camera.
I'd prefer faster electronic zoom. Adding manual twist would IMO make the camera a larger form factor and I like it smaller
With the flip and twist LCD, make the hinge internal and not external and allow the LCD size to be increased.
Allow optical zoom and exposure and AF control in video
A few others but I'm getting really picky now
G LAU
Leading Member
The 750Z have not been widely available in the market (Hong Kong) since April. I think this is a great camera but bad marketing. Pentax has come out too many models within a very short period of time of very similar function, which confused customers who never know or use a Pentax before.
Given it's over a year old and sales have been excellent, not suprised it's slowing down now.
Most cameras only really sell for the first 6 months of release these days and in a few cases, less than that
Such is the volatile DC market we see today
timo
Veteran Member
-whatever happend to the SVi, announced but never seen?
In view of Pentax's announcement that they are reducing emphasis on compact cams, maybe they realise that just a cosmetic upgrade of the SV is not enough. I wonder whether this one will ever happen.
I hope Pentax will go on making small cams. But I hope they will not splatter the market with confusing and indistinguishable models.
Tim
In view of Pentax's announcement that they are reducing emphasis on compact cams, maybe they realise that just a cosmetic upgrade of the SV is not enough. I wonder whether this one will ever happen.
I hope Pentax will go on making small cams. But I hope they will not splatter the market with confusing and indistinguishable models.
Tim
timo
Veteran Member
Hi wazza - that's interesting: never seen one here in Singapore. Lets see if the changes are purely cosmetic - spec-wise the SV is an attractive camera but according to the reviews never quite delivered.
tim
Tim
I doubt there is much change but we can always live in hope
The SV for some reason was a failure by Pentax - it happens.
I am just surprised they didn't put their attention of issues identified by users of the Optio range
ie slow performance (shot to shot, AF low light, startup, zoom etc)
I feel they tried to address many issues in the 750Z but they took the shine off it by not addressing the common issues I mention before
Even Pentax-haters agree that the SMC 5x lens is a class leader so I was hoping that Pentax might make use of that in future releases. Looks like that may never happen now
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