Lumiquest pop-up flash diffuser

Lumiquest has now designed a diffuser for built-in pop-up flash
units. Clever idea, mounts to the shoe, and probably helpful.
They call it the Softscreen. Here is the link:
http://www.lumiquest.com/softscreen.htm
Hi,

Thanks for letting us know. This could be very useful.

BTW I was wondering if you have had any experience with the Ultrasoft or the Big Bounce from the same company.
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
No, I don't have that model. I have the Midi Bouncer, which I have only used once. I wasn't particulary impressed with its benefits. I also have the Softbox which I have used extensively on my film camera, shooting perhaps over 1,000 images at weddings, with very good results. My tests with the Lumiquest Softbox on an AF360 and my D show additional underexposure of about 1 stop (something we don't need with digital). I have been using Stofen diffusers with my AF360s and D but am about to go back to the Softbox and just dial in another stop of exposure. I like the way the Softbox channels the light toward the subject, whereas the Stofen diffuser (similar to the Lumiquest Ultrabounce, by the way) does more scattering of the light (good for wide angle shots though).
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
...Do you mean -1 stop for the diffuser plus less for for compensation?
No, I don't have that model. I have the Midi Bouncer, which I have
only used once. I wasn't particulary impressed with its benefits.
I also have the Softbox which I have used extensively on my film
camera, shooting perhaps over 1,000 images at weddings, with very
good results. My tests with the Lumiquest Softbox on an AF360 and
my D show additional underexposure of about 1 stop (something we
don't need with digital). I have been using Stofen diffusers with
my AF360s and D but am about to go back to the Softbox and just
dial in another stop of exposure. I like the way the Softbox
channels the light toward the subject, whereas the Stofen diffuser
(similar to the Lumiquest Ultrabounce, by the way) does more
scattering of the light (good for wide angle shots though).
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
Thanks John.

I have the Stofen diffuser as well for the AF360FGZ, which I used extensively on my US trip, but I didn't buy the Lumiquest diffuser because of reports of erratic exposure with the Pentax flash.

I wasn't really that happy with the Stofen diffuser. It really works well when it is bounced but most of my shots were outside and the indoor locations had ceilings that were so high you could fit a 747 into them. Finally the lack of swivel on the ‘360 meant that most of the time I was shooting straight on with the flash. So I am ready to try other solutions like the Lumiquest stuff. I also have two Sigma 500 Super DGs (which I took with me as well) and I wouldn't mind having a solution that was interchangeable.

BTW how is your power pack performing? I ended up missing some shots because the flash was recharging - especially when using high speed sync.
No, I don't have that model. I have the Midi Bouncer, which I have
only used once. I wasn't particulary impressed with its benefits.
I also have the Softbox which I have used extensively on my film
camera, shooting perhaps over 1,000 images at weddings, with very
good results. My tests with the Lumiquest Softbox on an AF360 and
my D show additional underexposure of about 1 stop (something we
don't need with digital). I have been using Stofen diffusers with
my AF360s and D but am about to go back to the Softbox and just
dial in another stop of exposure. I like the way the Softbox
channels the light toward the subject, whereas the Stofen diffuser
(similar to the Lumiquest Ultrabounce, by the way) does more
scattering of the light (good for wide angle shots though).
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
...Do you mean -1 stop for the diffuser plus less for for
compensation?
I didn't keep my previous Stofen vs. Lumiquest exposure tests but I was getting about 1 stop underexposure with the Lumiquest Softbox. I will just increase the flash (AF3560) by one stop when using it and watch the LCD screen. I like the light coverage it gives of individuals and small groups.
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
Thanks John.

I have the Stofen diffuser as well for the AF360FGZ, which I used
extensively on my US trip, but I didn't buy the Lumiquest diffuser
because of reports of erratic exposure with the Pentax flash.
I didn't seem to get erratic flash, just constant 1 stop underexposure with it. I am going to try it again.
I wasn't really that happy with the Stofen diffuser. It really
works well when it is bounced but most of my shots were outside and
the indoor locations had ceilings that were so high you could fit a
747 into them. Finally the lack of swivel on the ‘360 meant that
most of the time I was shooting straight on with the flash. So I am
ready to try other solutions like the Lumiquest stuff. I also have
two Sigma 500 Super DGs (which I took with me as well) and I
wouldn't mind having a solution that was interchangeable.
Yes, that was my finding too. Close-up, inside, with a low ceiling, the 45 degree bounce works well with it. Otherwise the bottom half of the subject is dark!
BTW how is your power pack performing? I ended up missing some
shots because the flash was recharging - especially when using high
speed sync.
The external lead acid power pack I bought is working VERY WELL. The red light does not go out unless you are in a huge room or outside with a full discharge, and even then it comes back in a couple of seconds. The only thing you have to remember is not to take more than about 5-6 in a row or the flash will overheat and shut down. I bought it from this guy (no connection).
http://www.aljacobs.com/THE%20BLACK%20BOX.htm
No, I don't have that model. I have the Midi Bouncer, which I have
only used once. I wasn't particulary impressed with its benefits.
I also have the Softbox which I have used extensively on my film
camera, shooting perhaps over 1,000 images at weddings, with very
good results. My tests with the Lumiquest Softbox on an AF360 and
my D show additional underexposure of about 1 stop (something we
don't need with digital). I have been using Stofen diffusers with
my AF360s and D but am about to go back to the Softbox and just
dial in another stop of exposure. I like the way the Softbox
channels the light toward the subject, whereas the Stofen diffuser
(similar to the Lumiquest Ultrabounce, by the way) does more
scattering of the light (good for wide angle shots though).
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
Thanks John.

I have the Stofen diffuser as well for the AF360FGZ, which I used
extensively on my US trip, but I didn't buy the Lumiquest diffuser
because of reports of erratic exposure with the Pentax flash.
I didn't seem to get erratic flash, just constant 1 stop
underexposure with it. I am going to try it again.
Perhaps I am confusing things then. There were some threads some time ago, which you and Brett were involved in. Perhaps it was that he was getting overexposure with the Stofen and the Sigma and you were getting underexposure with the Lumiquest and the Pentax.

[...]
BTW how is your power pack performing? I ended up missing some
shots because the flash was recharging - especially when using high
speed sync.
The external lead acid power pack I bought is working VERY WELL.
The red light does not go out unless you are in a huge room or
outside with a full discharge, and even then it comes back in a
couple of seconds. The only thing you have to remember is not to
take more than about 5-6 in a row or the flash will overheat and
shut down. I bought it from this guy (no connection).
http://www.aljacobs.com/THE%20BLACK%20BOX.htm
Do you have a picture of the connectors that go into the flashgun? I'm not sure how this is meant to work.

I saw in a previous post that when you got the power pack you thought that it would be good for about 500 shots but that was before you had used it. Is that approximately what you have found in practice? On the website they reckon that it should deliver around 800 shots per charge.

After that last trip I am thinking seriously about getting one of these. The only thing that really worries me is the weight.
No, I don't have that model. I have the Midi Bouncer, which I have
only used once. I wasn't particulary impressed with its benefits.
I also have the Softbox which I have used extensively on my film
camera, shooting perhaps over 1,000 images at weddings, with very
good results. My tests with the Lumiquest Softbox on an AF360 and
my D show additional underexposure of about 1 stop (something we
don't need with digital). I have been using Stofen diffusers with
my AF360s and D but am about to go back to the Softbox and just
dial in another stop of exposure. I like the way the Softbox
channels the light toward the subject, whereas the Stofen diffuser
(similar to the Lumiquest Ultrabounce, by the way) does more
scattering of the light (good for wide angle shots though).
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
BTW I was wondering if you have had any experience with the
Ultrasoft or the Big Bounce from the same company.
I have both the Ultrasoft bounce diffuser and the Mini-SoftBox. I use the latter the most. It does a good job of spreading the light source for direct flash and is less dependent upon room reflectivity.

Godfrey
 
Perhaps I am confusing things then. There were some threads some
time ago, which you and Brett were involved in. Perhaps it was that
he was getting overexposure with the Stofen and the Sigma and you
were getting underexposure with the Lumiquest and the Pentax.
Yes, Brett was getting inconsistent and strong overexposure with the Stofen on the Sigma. I was getting consistent 1 stop underexposure with the Lumiquest on the AF360 and using my D. But I liked the light coverage with the Lumiquest, and am going to go back to it.
Do you have a picture of the connectors that go into the flashgun?
I'm not sure how this is meant to work.
You have to make a notch under the battery cover on the flash so that the cable can get inside the battery compartment. (I would only do this to units that are OUT of warranty.) When finished I put a piece of gaffer's tape over the battery cover on the AF360 because I have had some of the covers pop loose just at the wrong time and the flash wouldn't fire. Have not had any problems since then.



I made my own fake batteries from 1/2" wood dowels, per the instructions on his site. But he shipped two of his plastic ones with the battery.



At first I used an old cell phone car charger coiled cord, but found that it pulled on the flash bracket too much and I was getting crooked images. So I ended up using some black lamp cord that I bought at Home Depot. I put a two connector auto trailer connector in line so that I could disconnect the cord near the flash.


I saw in a previous post that when you got the power pack you
thought that it would be good for about 500 shots but that was
before you had used it. Is that approximately what you have found
in practice? On the website they reckon that it should deliver
around 800 shots per charge.
I have only used it for about 200 shots at a time but I wouldn't doubt that it would be possible. He also advertises that it can "sit" on the charger and always be ready to go.
After that last trip I am thinking seriously about getting one of
these. The only thing that really worries me is the weight.
He doesn't supply a cord or a shoulder strap. I had a very nice strap from a leather bag that I used. You just put the battery under your armpit with the strap over your shoulder and you hardly know it is there. I bought a small nylon bag at Ritz for $10 because I didn't like the metal case of the battery banging against things in my camer bag.
Good luck! I am very happy with mine!
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
Thanks for that link. I'm buying one of those for traveling when I
cannot bring an external flash.
In a different vein but still relating to flash diffusers, here's
somthing else:
For those who may not be familiar with the Lightsphere2
on-camera-flash diffuser, this may prove interesting. Be sure to
view the video:
http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=3354218&showprevnext=1
Yes, I have looked at the Lightsphere, and it is interesting. However, it does not appear that it could be used with the AF360 because of the lack of swivel, but on the Sigma yes. And the AF360 probably doesn't have enough power for straight diffusion. Thanks for the post and link.
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 
Hi Zaldidun,

Thanks for this.

I've been aware of the Lightsphere II for quite a while. There used to be a lot of discussion about it on the Fuji forum (before it descended in to infighting and recriminations). The product seems to be great for indoors shooting; in fact some people on the Fuji forum actually made their own versions of it and tested it out.

What I'm not sure about is how well it will do outdoors for fill flash in the day or standard flash at night (I saw the pictures on his site but there was some debate about the night shots); I don't think these issues were ever resolved on the Fuji forum.

I may ask the survivors over there if they can do some comparisons between that and some of the other diffusion methods. However since the Lightsphere II apparently isn't available for the Pentax AF360 or the Sigma Super 500 DG I'm not in too much of a hurry to ask.
Thanks for that link. I'm buying one of those for traveling when I
cannot bring an external flash.
In a different vein but still relating to flash diffusers, here's
somthing else:
For those who may not be familiar with the Lightsphere2
on-camera-flash diffuser, this may prove interesting. Be sure to
view the video:
http://secure.mycart.net/catalogs/catalog.asp?prodid=3354218&showprevnext=1
 
BTW I was wondering if you have had any experience with the
Ultrasoft or the Big Bounce from the same company.
I have both the Ultrasoft bounce diffuser and the Mini-SoftBox. I
use the latter the most. It does a good job of spreading the light
source for direct flash and is less dependent upon room
reflectivity.
Thanks Godfrey.

I will probably look at the Mini-Softbox, the Softbox and the Big Bounce.
 
John,

Thanks for posting this detailed explanation and the pictures.
Perhaps I am confusing things then. There were some threads some
time ago, which you and Brett were involved in. Perhaps it was that
he was getting overexposure with the Stofen and the Sigma and you
were getting underexposure with the Lumiquest and the Pentax.
Yes, Brett was getting inconsistent and strong overexposure with
the Stofen on the Sigma. I was getting consistent 1 stop
underexposure with the Lumiquest on the AF360 and using my D. But
I liked the light coverage with the Lumiquest, and am going to go
back to it.
Do you have a picture of the connectors that go into the flashgun?
I'm not sure how this is meant to work.
You have to make a notch under the battery cover on the flash so
that the cable can get inside the battery compartment. (I would
only do this to units that are OUT of warranty.) When finished I
put a piece of gaffer's tape over the battery cover on the AF360
because I have had some of the covers pop loose just at the wrong
time and the flash wouldn't fire. Have not had any problems since
then.



I made my own fake batteries from 1/2" wood dowels, per the
instructions on his site. But he shipped two of his plastic ones
with the battery.



At first I used an old cell phone car charger coiled cord, but
found that it pulled on the flash bracket too much and I was
getting crooked images. So I ended up using some black lamp cord
that I bought at Home Depot. I put a two connector auto trailer
connector in line so that I could disconnect the cord near the
flash.


I saw in a previous post that when you got the power pack you
thought that it would be good for about 500 shots but that was
before you had used it. Is that approximately what you have found
in practice? On the website they reckon that it should deliver
around 800 shots per charge.
I have only used it for about 200 shots at a time but I wouldn't
doubt that it would be possible. He also advertises that it can
"sit" on the charger and always be ready to go.
After that last trip I am thinking seriously about getting one of
these. The only thing that really worries me is the weight.
He doesn't supply a cord or a shoulder strap. I had a very nice
strap from a leather bag that I used. You just put the battery
under your armpit with the strap over your shoulder and you hardly
know it is there. I bought a small nylon bag at Ritz for $10
because I didn't like the metal case of the battery banging against
things in my camer bag.
Good luck! I am very happy with mine!
--
John Power
Racehorse in the Desert

'Life is too short to miss out on photography.'

 

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