Camedia Master DOA, i GB Microdrive in critical condition :-(

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I just got the highly acclaimed Olympus E-10 and it seems to work fine. However, the Camedia Master software tells me that I need to change the port settings, lower the communications speed or set the mode dial to outer connection mode. Yikes!

But, 5 seconds after plugging in the USB cable into the camera and turning it on, "Removable Disk E:" mysteriously appears in the Win ME (Malevolant Edition) explorer so I can download the JPGs and TIFs. It looks like no RAWs for a while!

The fact that windoze sees the camera tells me that the Camedia software is faulty. There is an upgrade on the Olympus site to version 2.1, but the CD which came with the camera is version 2.5. Any word on which version actually works on win-ME?

The 1GB IBM Microdrive screws up the booting process, usually ending in failure. I often see the status screen on the camera flash every icon 3 times and then the whole thing goes blank. Occasionally, the "reading memory" red light flashes interminably, even after turning the camera off and requires a battery removal to stop it.

Sometimes, it does boot and will take a few pictures, but it often dies unexpectedly and often will not recover from sleep mode. Removing the hard drive while leaving the 128 MB Olympus SmartMedia card in restores normal operation.

I use the 1700 mAh Powerex AA cells on full charge. Even using an AC adapter will not fix the boot problem. However, leaving in FRESH batteries and connecting the Powerex, 7.2 V MH-DPB140LI, Lithium battery pack gives me a boot about every other time. Once it boots, I can quickly switch to AC power and it seems to work. I suspect that the 6.4 V AC transformer provides less current than the 2 sets of batteries.

I hope that I can take 128 MB worth of pictures on the SmartMedia card, put in fresh batteries, jump start it with the Li battery boost, quickly switch to AC and have enough juice left to transfer the images to the mdrive. My hopes in buying the oversized mdrive were to be able to shoot an entre day/event before going home to download (no laptop). More later after extensive testing...

The guy at Thomas Distributing recommended the 1700 mAh Powerex batteries over the 1800 mAh Mahas. Should I try the 1800's? Do NiMH batteries really need 3-4 recharge cycles to be fully powered?

Dave Weikel (of davidweikel.com fame) says that he has successfully kludged (creatively engineered) 5, 1.2 V D cell NiMH batteries together to give a whoping 8000 mAh and 6.65 volts. The unrechargable Li batteries from Nikon measure 3.2 volts (* 2 = 6.4 V). It sounds like this should work. 5 big, D cell batteries should have much more "cold cranking amperage" than 4 wimpy AA cells to wind up the hard drive. The added voltage should boost the output wattage by at least 20%. Will this work? Will his (my!) camera (hard drive) melt down? Any electrical engineers out there?

One of the surveys of many E-10 owners with 1 GB mdrives on some Olympus club web site said that 87% had no trouble and that only 6% had serious trouble. It looks as if I am one of the unlucky 6%!.

Oh well, the pictures are great!--BrianP
 
Hi Brian,

Gawd it's been so long since I saw someone post that Camedia doesn't see my E10! that I had almost forgotten about that problem. :o)

Yes, the Camedia is just about worthless. But Yes, the WinME will see your E10 as a removable harddrive, where in you can retrieve your photo's.

What you need to get, and I don't have a link handy, is the RAW Plugin. This will help you be able to view your RAW images in Photoshop.

Hope that helps.

Vance.
I just got the highly acclaimed Olympus E-10 and it seems to work
fine. However, the Camedia Master software tells me that I need to
change the port settings, lower the communications speed or set the
mode dial to outer connection mode. Yikes!

But, 5 seconds after plugging in the USB cable into the camera and
turning it on, "Removable Disk E:" mysteriously appears in the Win
ME (Malevolant Edition) explorer so I can download the JPGs and
TIFs. It looks like no RAWs for a while!

The fact that windoze sees the camera tells me that the Camedia
software is faulty. There is an upgrade on the Olympus site to
version 2.1, but the CD which came with the camera is version 2.5.
Any word on which version actually works on win-ME?

The 1GB IBM Microdrive screws up the booting process, usually
ending in failure. I often see the status screen on the camera
flash every icon 3 times and then the whole thing goes blank.
Occasionally, the "reading memory" red light flashes interminably,
even after turning the camera off and requires a battery removal to
stop it.

Sometimes, it does boot and will take a few pictures, but it often
dies unexpectedly and often will not recover from sleep mode.
Removing the hard drive while leaving the 128 MB Olympus SmartMedia
card in restores normal operation.

I use the 1700 mAh Powerex AA cells on full charge. Even using an
AC adapter will not fix the boot problem. However, leaving in FRESH
batteries and connecting the Powerex, 7.2 V MH-DPB140LI, Lithium
battery pack gives me a boot about every other time. Once it boots,
I can quickly switch to AC power and it seems to work. I suspect
that the 6.4 V AC transformer provides less current than the 2 sets
of batteries.

I hope that I can take 128 MB worth of pictures on the SmartMedia
card, put in fresh batteries, jump start it with the Li battery
boost, quickly switch to AC and have enough juice left to transfer
the images to the mdrive. My hopes in buying the oversized mdrive
were to be able to shoot an entre day/event before going home to
download (no laptop). More later after extensive testing...

The guy at Thomas Distributing recommended the 1700 mAh Powerex
batteries over the 1800 mAh Mahas. Should I try the 1800's? Do NiMH
batteries really need 3-4 recharge cycles to be fully powered?

Dave Weikel (of davidweikel.com fame) says that he has successfully
kludged (creatively engineered) 5, 1.2 V D cell NiMH batteries
together to give a whoping 8000 mAh and 6.65 volts. The
unrechargable Li batteries from Nikon measure 3.2 volts (* 2 = 6.4
V). It sounds like this should work. 5 big, D cell batteries should
have much more "cold cranking amperage" than 4 wimpy AA cells to
wind up the hard drive. The added voltage should boost the output
wattage by at least 20%. Will this work? Will his (my!) camera
(hard drive) melt down? Any electrical engineers out there?

One of the surveys of many E-10 owners with 1 GB mdrives on some
Olympus club web site said that 87% had no trouble and that only 6%
had serious trouble. It looks as if I am one of the unlucky 6%!.

Oh well, the pictures are great!
--
BrianP
 
I think most people with E-10s have given up on 1GB microdrives working and use 340MB drives instead.(Do a forum search and you'll find plenty of posts to read) If I'm not mistaken, most of those reporting 1GB drives working have the B-30LPS Grip with the LIPO battery which is rated nearly 3X's the amperage of a set of 1600maH NiMHs, so that may explain a bit. I have a 340MB MD that I run all the time. No problems with 1500, or even 1350maH NiMHs. It only messed up ONCE on boot and I really jerked the camera around while it was coming up to speed, so maybe it was a gyroscopic thing? I shut it off, rebooted and have never had a problem since.

You might also be better served with a couple of 340MB drives since you're sort of putting all your eggs in one basket, so to speak.

The adapter is only rated for 2A or 2000maH, so it's not much more powerful than a set of 1600maH NiMHs, probably less powerful on a surge really.

NiMHs do require a few charge/discharge cycles to really get deep... I think it helps if you run them until the camera shuts down, wait a few seconds, turn it back on and repeat about three times... Each cycle will yield less pictures if you take some each time and the batteries will get a nice deep discharge and still not be brought so low as to endanger them. You can tell you're getting into the bottom of the charge when you turn the camera back on and it immediately goes to flashing the LCD battery icon instead of shutting it off after a brief period as it does with fully charged batteries.

A charger with a discharge feature might do as well if you have one.
 
Hi Brian

Camedia master works okay, but you cannot connect to the camera from within (but then why would you want to if you can see the camera as a hard drive? - if you actually want to use it (there's better viewers around) then just map to the drive when it appears, or better still, copy to the computer and view there.

I'm also one of the 6% with a non-functioning 1Gb microdrive - I think that Gerald is right about the power. I've been using a 340 Mb microdrive, which caused a few card errors for the first few days (and sometimes if left alone for a long time). But under normal circumstances this works fine - OTOH with the huge reduction of price on the CF cards, I'm beginning to feel that this is a safer way to store images.

Finally - - - enjoy your new camera - we all do around here - and don't get too paranoid trying to find faults with it which arent going to impact on the way you use it.

:-)

kind regards
jono slack
http://www.slack.co.uk

p.s. I find my 1Gb microdrive extremely useful for crucial backups from my computer that I can carry around with me.
I just got the highly acclaimed Olympus E-10 and it seems to work
fine. However, the Camedia Master software tells me that I need to
change the port settings, lower the communications speed or set the
mode dial to outer connection mode. Yikes!

But, 5 seconds after plugging in the USB cable into the camera and
turning it on, "Removable Disk E:" mysteriously appears in the Win
ME (Malevolant Edition) explorer so I can download the JPGs and
TIFs. It looks like no RAWs for a while!

The fact that windoze sees the camera tells me that the Camedia
software is faulty. There is an upgrade on the Olympus site to
version 2.1, but the CD which came with the camera is version 2.5.
Any word on which version actually works on win-ME?

The 1GB IBM Microdrive screws up the booting process, usually
ending in failure. I often see the status screen on the camera
flash every icon 3 times and then the whole thing goes blank.
Occasionally, the "reading memory" red light flashes interminably,
even after turning the camera off and requires a battery removal to
stop it.

Sometimes, it does boot and will take a few pictures, but it often
dies unexpectedly and often will not recover from sleep mode.
Removing the hard drive while leaving the 128 MB Olympus SmartMedia
card in restores normal operation.

I use the 1700 mAh Powerex AA cells on full charge. Even using an
AC adapter will not fix the boot problem. However, leaving in FRESH
batteries and connecting the Powerex, 7.2 V MH-DPB140LI, Lithium
battery pack gives me a boot about every other time. Once it boots,
I can quickly switch to AC power and it seems to work. I suspect
that the 6.4 V AC transformer provides less current than the 2 sets
of batteries.

I hope that I can take 128 MB worth of pictures on the SmartMedia
card, put in fresh batteries, jump start it with the Li battery
boost, quickly switch to AC and have enough juice left to transfer
the images to the mdrive. My hopes in buying the oversized mdrive
were to be able to shoot an entre day/event before going home to
download (no laptop). More later after extensive testing...

The guy at Thomas Distributing recommended the 1700 mAh Powerex
batteries over the 1800 mAh Mahas. Should I try the 1800's? Do NiMH
batteries really need 3-4 recharge cycles to be fully powered?

Dave Weikel (of davidweikel.com fame) says that he has successfully
kludged (creatively engineered) 5, 1.2 V D cell NiMH batteries
together to give a whoping 8000 mAh and 6.65 volts. The
unrechargable Li batteries from Nikon measure 3.2 volts (* 2 = 6.4
V). It sounds like this should work. 5 big, D cell batteries should
have much more "cold cranking amperage" than 4 wimpy AA cells to
wind up the hard drive. The added voltage should boost the output
wattage by at least 20%. Will this work? Will his (my!) camera
(hard drive) melt down? Any electrical engineers out there?

One of the surveys of many E-10 owners with 1 GB mdrives on some
Olympus club web site said that 87% had no trouble and that only 6%
had serious trouble. It looks as if I am one of the unlucky 6%!.

Oh well, the pictures are great!
--
BrianP
 
87% had no problems with the 1 gig is probably reversed! I dont think you would find 6 percent here that have the 1 gig working with or without the Lipo!

The 340's are at 99.9 I think :) I have 4 that are 100 % :)
One of the surveys of many E-10 owners with 1 GB mdrives on some
Olympus club web site said that 87% had no trouble and that only 6%
had serious trouble. It looks as if I am one of the unlucky 6%!.

Oh well, the pictures are great!
--
BrianP
 

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