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which is better the canon 20d or nikon70s

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D70 has it all over the 20D. (Just thought I'd start the flame war earlier :) ).
 
People will argue this of course, but it's not most critical component (the camera). The glass is. Camera's are features. They hold the image. You can buy either camera and be as good or average as your willing to work. If this is your first camera, you can't go wrong with either; just keep in mind this one opinion, it's the glass that matters most next to your skill level.

Good luck ..
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Fitz
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And IMHO the 20d far surpases the D70 in every way.

But particularly in image quality. The extra 2 MP's really seems to make a difference in the work that I do. I crop 16x20's and sell them to clients all the time. The d70 could do it, but the results just were not as good.

The D70 is also considerably and noticably slower than the 20D.

Best of luck!
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VIPER2 said:
this will be my frist camera!
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A DSLR makes a very poor first camera. Just because it's expensive and it's digital doesn't mean it's a magic bullet. DSLRs actually take a quite a bit more skill with camera and computer to get first-rate pictures than do film SLR's or digital point and shoots. I'd recommend a decent digital point and shoot and some photography classes first.
 
It's also internal processing procedures and ability. Nikon uses a CCD... bad enough also made by Sony.

I don't want to start a war. But all the SMART reviewers point to the 20D as being a winner in complete and accurate image quality.

EOSPhotoguy
 
giving someone first timer DSLR is like handing someone that has never driven the keys to new Corvette with a six speed manual transmission instead of putting them in a nice Honda with an automatic. You can learn in both but you might find that automatic an easier place to get the basics down.
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Bill
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'The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.' Unknown
'Every man dies; but, not every man lives' Braveheart
'Sometime the magic works. Sometimes it doesn't' Little Big Man
 
Before you try to learn to swim, drink alot of water. The only danger with beginning with a DSLR is that you could get discouraged. There are other things that could become problems, like getting stuck in the rut of always shooting in Program or Auto, without learning the meaning of the viewfinder info. I still say it's better to get the DSLR, if you can afford it, and get the 20D, so it will still remain viable, after the rest of the world has caught up.

Find out what you want a point and shoot to do by picking from the behavior of the 20D. I just bought a G-6 because it shares the same memory, flash and battery with the 20D, and serves as a mid-range lens when I have something else mounted on the 20D. I carry an S-60 all the time, because it is suited for that, but still produces good photographs. When I have time, and don't mind carrying the rig, the 20D is used for hands-down best work, and further learning. I've been at this for only 22 years. BTW, my first real camera was the Nikon FA, against loud warnings about this being "too much, too soon". The really great thing about getting a fully capable camera at the beginning is that it will respond to your curiosity like an avid lover. Try everything, and go everywhere. It serves to feed your relationship with your own vision, and it becomes the means for that adventure. Get it!
 
beyondalldoubt said:
The only danger with beginning with a DSLR is that you could get
discouraged.
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Would you rather get discouraged having invested $2000 or less than $500.

DSLR are great and you can learn on one. The downside is that they are brutally honest and will quickly show flaws in technique and knowledge. We see it daily here in post with titles like "Why are my pictures soft"

Really there are some great P&S that will allow total manual overrides for when someone is comfortable going past the auto mode. These can be had for less than $500. I think when you begin to hit about against the creative limits it is then time to upgrade to something that is more flexible.

Even stranger thought a good used 35mm film body to learn on. Image what you can do these days with $500 if you look at film bodies.
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Bill
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'The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.' Unknown
'Every man dies; but, not every man lives' Braveheart
'Sometime the magic works. Sometimes it doesn't' Little Big Man
 
Wm. Bates said:
an easier place to get the basics down.
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I learned how to use an SLR back in the days when there was no autofocus or built-in light meters. I was kid. I leaned how to do it by doing it.

I'm not a genius or a great photographer. But I sure don't need any snobs sticking their big white lenses in my face telling me that I'm not good enough to join their exclusive SLR club. I'll do it if I want and you can't stop me.

Bob
 
Bobster2 said:
Wm. Bates said:
I'm not a genius or a great photographer. But I sure don't need any
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snobs sticking their big white lenses in my face telling me that
I'm not good enough to join their exclusive SLR club. I'll do it if
I want and you can't stop me.

Bob
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I wouldn't dream of stopping anyone...and I'll gladly help when they want or need it.

I just don't think blowing a few thousand dollars on equipment to learn photography which someone may or may not like is the wisest decision. It can be done very well for much less. But heck its there money let them spend it the way they want. I really don't care.

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Bill
Taking It One Day At a Time



http://www.pbase.com/slowpokebill
'The fact that no one understands you doesn't mean you're an artist.' Unknown
'Every man dies; but, not every man lives' Braveheart
'Sometime the magic works. Sometimes it doesn't' Little Big Man
 
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