Pro1 issues?

Hi all,

Sorry for the general post but I'm contemplating buying a Pro1. I'd like to ask the Pro 1 users if you could let me know what are the main issues or problems with the camera that you've experienced? I know no camera is perfect...the challenge seems to be to find one that you can live with.

Thanks in advance.
Andrew

1. Poor visibility of LCD in bright sun, electronic viefinder is not too swift for action shots.

2. Filter and/or front of lens attachment issue.

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Francis

I've recently bought a Pro1 and love it But at high ISO it does have pretty noticeable noise.

regards,
alan

Filter, lens hood issue. Also poor placement of MF button. Other than these I find no problems.

I moved from a G3.. had it about 2 yrs with excellent service. When the Pro 1 prices dropped and the firmware update was released, I could not resist the urge to get one. The firmware update was HUGE for this camera and I have not been disappointed with my purchase. Moving from the G3, the transition is very quick. The menus and buttons are very similar. The images are VERY good which is what this is all about. I shoot nearly everyting at ISO 50 or 100 and rarely go beyond that. Noise is no problem whatsoever at these settings. I do not use the EVF very often so this is not an issue. I got away from the viewfinder on the G3 (for obvious reasons) and became an LCD focus type. On the Pro 1 it is larger and one of the best on any camera. Construction of the camera is top notch. It feels like a serious camera and is well balanced. I have had no problems with "dust" and no problems with the vignetting that often pops up in discussion. The front lens element looks very vunerable when not protected. So, I keep the filter adapter and a UV filter on the camera almost all the time. I think that for the price you can get it today, it is a bargain. I would not hesitate to recommend it to a friend and in fact have done so. I have some Pro 1 image on my Pbase link.. mostly in the Flowers section. Browse them if you like.. Regards. R.
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ralph m
http://www.pbase.com/rmcmillan
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I got mine recently from G5, the operaating speed, af speed low light af ability, and the picture quality blows G5 away (G5 is also good though). And I like the location of the buttons, it depends on where you will get used to rest your thumb.

Only compain right now is I do get certain shading under certain lighting condistions. Not a huge issue as I guess I can just crop the pics. Before a pr2 come out, to me this is the best prosumer we can get.

Noise at high ISO is perhaps the biggest issue for me. I try to stick to 50 unless I really can't.

Otherwise, it's minor irritations only. Like the strap getting in the way of the swivel LCD when the camera's round your neck. And the zoom ring operating ar*e first. The MF button, as already stated, is too easy to press by mistake. Pro 1 over-exposes a bit in my experience, but that's easily fixed. Movies are only 15fps which isn't up to much these days but most Pro 1 users don't buy it for that.

Nothing major strikes me. It's rapidly becoming a classic camera in my opinion.

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Androo
http://Androo.smugmug.com

Thanks for all our great feedback! Any problems taking pics without a tripod in room lighting only? I've found some of the newer cameras for whatever reason really need exceptionally steady hands to take a clear pic. My old point and shoot rarely missed a sharp pic with a little effort being taken to stabilize the camera.

Andrew

Any mini-sensor (2/3") digicam such as the Pro1, camera movement impact is much more severe than, say, full frame 35 dslr because you have to enlarge the image 3-4 magnitude over that of the 35 dslr for a given print size. I use a Manfratto monopod whereever situation permits for this very reason. The Manfratto monopod actually functions very well as a carrying handle for the Pro1, and easily retains your general camera view such as while waiting for someone to move out of the way.

I like big prints, with the monopod supported shots AND in combination with very high shutter speed, I can consistent get tac sharp 13X19 (i9900) prints.
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Francis

Only had my Pro 1 one week. Knew limitations going in. Thats why my other camera is a IDMII, for those low light situations, or sports photography. But for general pics, image quality is fantastic, and it is soooo easy to carry around compared to dSLR. Think hard about how you are going to use the camera. and if its limitations are what you need, then it is not for you, you need a dSLR.
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Steve L.

Alan Potter said:

I've recently bought a Pro1 and love it But at high ISO it does
have pretty noticeable noise.

regards,
alan

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I only use ISO 50 - if a higher ISO is called for, I just use a flash or a mini tripod.
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I didn't know you could do that? WA40x )

Get a Nikon CP8700 soft leather paded bag ($30) and it will further makes it easier to carry around. The bag will hold a spare bat and some CF cards.
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Francis

That looks like a better solution than the Canon cover/case. I cant find details on it. It is compact enough to wear on your belt?

Thanks.
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Chuck

The Pro 1 has the best glass on it for a Canon Compact with the G6 coming a close 2nd place. The next step up would be to purchase a DSLR with high-grade lenses. The G6 is a very close second. The Pro 1 is easy to use and produces beautiful images.

The EVF is good and even necessary. The LCD is one of the brightest made and is actually brighter and better than the G6. The build is solid and the features complete.

It can vignette slightly. But no more than a typical compact digital. In fact, the only reason this makes news is because the Pro 1 uses an L series lens... a type of high end lens which is not known for vignetting. As i said though, it's slight and of little importance. The MF button is easy to hit but that was an intentional design choice. When you realise it's there, you avoid it unless you need it. It's ready to accept other Canon accessories including flashes and filters etc. Speedy response to handling. ISO at 50 and 100 is great. I feel that the noise at 200-400 is too high for my use. Nothing unusual about noise over 100 ISO on a CCD camera. The only way up is once again to buy a DSLR from Canon with a CMOS sensor. The Super Macro mode on the Pro 1 is VERY nice - note that Super Macro internally crops the image to 5MP which is still plenty large.

Pro 1 = Beautiful pictures and lovely colour. Reliable and attractive in design as well. Easy to use in P-Mode and Auto. Likely to hold it's ground for a while yet. Definately worth the current price and worth more than it's original release price. No current issues with the Pro 1 at this time. All were solved with the latest Firmware upgrade late last year.

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Regards,

Marco Nero.
http://www.pbase.com/nero_design/powershot_pro1

How does the Pro 1 perform in lower light conditions? I'm talking standard living room lighting for example. My older Sony S70 could take sharp pics without a tripod 90% of the time in this light. Some of my friend's Olympus and Canon cameras for whatever reason just can't produce a sharp picture without a tripod.

I plan to use a new camera for a planned European trip and there will be alot of museums etc... that don't allow flash photography. I don't want blurry pics if I can avoid it.

Cheers
Andrew

One other thing ... You can buy it right now from Dell for $524. There's 15% off plus a $70 coupon #1VWL8GL8PSGGVK. Only for first 3000 people (purchases of ALL types of cameras). Go to Dell.com

Maybe that makes the decision easier?

Thats a great deal - I just ordered one from B&H this week for $620. Dell has been out of stock on the Pro1 for a couple of months and I couldn't wait any longer.

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Chuck

The answer depends on the usual. First, what is standard indoor light? Moving target or stationary? etc etc.

The links here are to pics all taken indoors, iso 50, some with flash, some without. Check them out and see what you think. My personal opinion is that I would like better performance in low light, but we all know what that means.
http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere/image/38533916
http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere/image/40834296
http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere/image/40834294
http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere/image/40834292
http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere/image/40667732
http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere/image/41976073
http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere/image/41976072

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http://www.pbase.com/darrel_labossiere

? Who told you this??
Are you sure?......
I think it's only sensitive to equvilent focal length...

ftgchan said:

Any mini-sensor (2/3") digicam such as the Pro1, camera movement
impact is much more severe than, say, full frame 35 dslr because
you have to enlarge the image 3-4 magnitude over that of the 35
dslr for a given print size. I use a Manfratto monopod whereever
situation permits for this very reason. The Manfratto monopod
actually functions very well as a carrying handle for the Pro1, and
easily retains your general camera view such as while waiting for
someone to move out of the way.

I like big prints, with the monopod supported shots AND in
combination with very high shutter speed, I can consistent get tac
sharp 13X19 (i9900) prints.
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Francis

Click to expand...

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Canon 20D , Pro1

Prime : 15 f/2.8 fisheye, 24 f/1.4L,35 f/1.4L, 50 f/1.4 ,85 f/1.8 ,100 f/2.8 Macro ,135 f/2L ...

Zoom: 10-22 EFS , 17-85 EFS , 24-70 f/2.8L ,70-200 f/4L & f/2.8L IS , 100-400 f/4.5-5.6L IS...
Saving for : 1Ds MKII then later 16-35 f/2.8L