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Stephen Schwartz said:
Until you tell me what you mean by observant, it would be
impossible to answer your question. For example, I have Karaite
friends. Are they observant? I also know a gay orthodox rabbu and
another orthodoc rabbi who is celibate. Are they observant?
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Am I the only one who sees the oxymoron in the statement: "gay orthodox rabbi???" If he's that orthodox, he should decide that he should be stoned to death.
Stephen Schwartz115733 said:
Let me try to help you ...

Can you tell me waht a mitzvah is?
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I've already answered this question. Invent something else, perhaps. Additionally, could you explain why are you so excited over this? Just had yours?
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Stephen Schwartz said:
How can I answer a question when YOU say I am not observant? Do
you know what Judaism is and what an "observant" Jews is?
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Observant Jew follows all the religious practices of his ilk, follows the Law as stated in the Torah and Talmud, and if he doesn't, he does not explain it, but repents.
 
1. There is nothing in Halacha that prohibits being gay, the prohintion is against sodomy.

As for condoning gay life style,etc., that would be a violation of Halacha but not of Reform or Conservative Judaism.

We have not stoned people for two millenia, BTW the penalty for claiming the divinity of Jesus 2000 yrs ago was also stoning.

2. I am nto sure waht message you refer to, but a bar mitzvah and a mitvah are very different things. Moreover, there is no requirement for a bar mitvah.
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What "ilk?"

What "law" ... Karaite, Rabbinic or Reform

Is Ariel Sharon "observant?"

Is the Kippah part of law?

Was the wailing wall part of a jewish temple?

BTW, NO Jew has ever fulfilled the law, that is part of the message of orthodox rabbinic law.

Bottom line is, I suspect you confuse "observant" with what we would call pious or frum. No I am not frum. Nor are the rabbis of my synagogue, but they are very religous and observant.

This ilustrates a common problem. Christians always seem to project beliefs on others .. whether it is is Jews or Hindus. II suspect that my beliefs are not interesting to you, other than as something to misuse.
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The radical religous right LIKES this stuff!

They are still fighting the crusades. They KNOW their God suports them .. whether it is in winning one for the gipper football or fighting for the divine right of Christ to rule over the Plains.

These folks regard Jimmy Carter as a Wimp and see Bill Clinton's bad taste in sex as a far, far more serious offence than GW Bush's willingness to kill others.
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Typo I assume.

I mean parents who dress their kids up in this way and have them flaunt their childish assets are abusive.

Or do you like such photography?
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Yes, yes I KNOW this is legal, Yes, I know that many Americans consioder this sort of thing OK. But, as long as we are talking taste, the image of a room ful of adults being entertaned by children loking like female impersonators, at least to me is disgusting.

But, perhaps, that si why we have the freedom of photographic sppeech .. so we can learn how wierd our neghbors really are.
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Oh, so there is no Jewish religion, only Jewish sects, none of which is able to agree with others on the topic of what it means to be an observant Jew. In this case, you're free to follow any Jewish tradition, be it Conservative, Orthodox, Liberal, Purple Bunny and Gravy, or Stephen Schwartz tradition. No problem here, it's not that you don't follow a particular religion, you just don't know what particular religion you follow.
 
I don't find anything abusive in these pictures. Maybe it's because I have no paedophilic tendencies, I don't find them exciting or suggestive. Hillarious, yes, but definitely nothing which would strike me as pornography.

If an adult woman was dressed this way, would you consider that porn, or just one of the types of clothing?

BTW, what about children posing in bikinis for catalogues? They often take poses which some people might label as 'suggestive.' Are they porn as well?
 
I'm not Eastern Orthodox, never have been. The point is that Christianity has been mentioned in this thread as an institution, it is not. It is a faith.
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to protect you and "your people" as you so quaintly put it. AT least have the decency to appreciate that fact. But your mind is so clouded by conspiracy theories and your obscession with being a victim that you obviously cannot appreciate that fact. A burnt out hippie clinging to your last vestige of structure - your Jewishness. A Jewishness that you totally reject in any meaningful sense.
 
MagicAngel said:
http://www.boston.com/news/local/new_hampshire/articles/2005/06/09/man_charged_with_possessing_pornographic_photos_of_toddler/

A guy goes into a CSV (drugstore) to print some images of his grand
child (that were actually child porn, no mistake about it) and get
arrested after the images are seen by the clerk.

Great, except that this story really makes me wonder about photo
processing. This store bascially says that clerks saw both sets of
prints. That must mean that clerks routinely monitor prints that
come out of printers. The only way to see images in a self serve
place is to actually take the time to look at all of the images.
Obviously, this guy had not right to do what he did, but what
privacy rights do the rest of us have? I mean are every image I
print of my son being view by someone? What if that guy is a
pervert and is making his own prints of my stuff?

I'd think that we would have some right to privacy and that clerks
and photo techs could just look though images at will.
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Look,... if you don't like the fact that clerks might be looking at your photos, then don't send them there.. Make your own prints.

I highly doubt if "some pervert" will be looking at your son's pictures and getting off by them....and so what if he does with your pictures...your son is fully clothed..right? Your son isn't doing anything in the photos that would make those illegal..right?

I don't know all the facts of this story, but I would imagine that the store could get into trouble if those images were made into prints.. I would hope that if I were a manager of that store, that my employees would have done the same!

Since perverts are everywhere,...what are you going to do..?? Lock your son up in a room with no windows? Perverts can be found in all public and private places.. Honestly, you sound like some of the ultra paranoid people who I encounter at sporting events where I am on assignment, photographing high school aged kids in sports...and their parents freak out over absolutely nothing... but because I have a fancy camera, I must be up to no good! ...Good grief! Yet they think NOTHING about the guy sitting next to them in the stands with a video camera (who could be a pervert) which has a high powered digital zoom that can get up a lot closer to the "action" than I can with a fast lens.. go figure..

JP

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Stephen Schwartz said:
15th century????

You seem to be living in an alternative universe.
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English pronunciation of 'Rome' (which you call 'Rhoum') would not appear until at least the 15th century. Earlier there was absolutely not one person who would pronounce 'Rome' like that, it would be pronounced more like [Roume].

Check it out once again:
Stephen Schwartz115733 said:
'Rome' prononunced as [roum] did not come into existence
at least until the 15th century, so don't invent terms such
as 'Rhoum' to back your alleged knowledge of history,
as you just prove your ignorance.
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Not only do you continue to prove your ignorance, but also your inability to read a sentence correctly.
 
I suspect that JonBenet has the same effect of pedophiles as the Sears catalog used to have.

Is it porn? No more, no less than Maplethorpe.
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Such an ignorant remarl does not deserve an answer.

Christianity is not a model of other religions. Judaism, Buddhism, Matiboa, Shinto, Islam are all very different from your idea of what a religion is.
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