The Samsung Pro 815 - the future "DSLR"?

The better small sensor prosumer cameras, like the Olympus 8080 or the E-300 does not show noticable noise until ISO settings above 400.

Not considering noise, these cameras offer resolution that rival the Canon 20D. (see Phil's comparison pages)

I guess most of you are too young to rember when using color 35mm film above ISO 200 was a big deal. Most pros wouldn't touch it because of noise. Even B&W film at ISO 400 was considered too grainy.

Now people complain if they don't have noise free images at ISO 1600.

You don't know how good you got it...you young whipper-snappers.

While histogram preview can be very useful, people have long developed skills using basic metering and exposure compensation to get accurate exposure.

I do seen many people demand LCD framing capability in a DSLR. 20Da demonstrates it is technically possible. I think in one or two years, LCD preview and live histogram will be available in DSLRs.

Mapleaf

Edwaste said:

mapleaf said:

I see some improvement in the zoom range. But I don't see a
anything revolutionary. I think the big prosumer is on the decline
because many people are buying cheap DSLRs.

Mapleaf

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Funny how people who are so obsessed with the shooting speed that
DSLR's offer, but yet are perfectly happy to wait until AFTER the
shot to see if their exposure was correct via histogram.

I think it makes much more sense to see a live electronic preview
with histogram or other methods such as the OLY 8080's "direct
histogram" mode and get the exposure right BEFORE the shot.

Getting the exposure right is the utmost important task in
photography.
Poor exposure will lose detail and prevent good resolution.

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Edwaste said:

I guess most of you are too young to rember when using color 35mm
film above ISO 200 was a big deal. Most pros wouldn't touch it
because of noise. Even B&W film at ISO 400 was considered too
grainy.

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LOL. Got some scans yesterday, this one is exactly from ISO200 film. Done in a lab with Fuji Frontier, not the best though good pro-grade scanner that average Joe is never going to get at home.



And well, this is Panasonic FZ20 (the NOISY camera), also at ISO200:

Edwaste said:

Now people complain if they don't have noise free images at ISO 1600.

You don't know how good you got it...you young whipper-snappers.

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The problem is, they never tried to look at film frames with a 1000x zoom and once printouts turned out well, what else one needs to know? :-D

Dmitry

In the sub $1k range, there are already three terrific DSLR's (350D, E300, *istDS), and soon to be a fourth (D50). And the D70 can be had for around $1k if you look. There are plenty of good cameras with interchangeable lenses and optical viewfinders in that price range.

What we have here is a pretentious P&S. Has the dslr 'look' but not the guts, sort of like kids that put a huge wing on the back of their Civic.

I wrote - that matters for ME. So I chose DSLR. If You don't need that - what's the problem? Choose what You need...

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