pHOTOSHOP OR rAWsHOOTER?

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I'm a RawShooter advocate! What version of Photoshop are you using?
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If you can visualize it, then create it in the camera, finish it off with the print that matches your mind's eye then you are, most likely, a master...
 
I don't have Photoshop, but find Rawshooter great enough for my needs PLUS it is for free.

I use Paint Shop Pro 9, it has its own RAW converter/processor but quite limited. Rawshooter beats it by a mile in regards to available controls.

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When I shoot RAW I use RawShooter, its free and I like it. I then use PSP 8 if I think I need to.
Photoshop is very expensive I reckon.
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Dave in Cuxton
 
PhotoShop is only suitable for those who have paid off their mortgages otherwise there are many good older versions of PSP or other programs to be found on magazine discs which will perform most of the average procedures that most people will want to perform.

One of the best free programs that I have ever used is PHOTOCONTROL. It can't develop RAW files but for sharpening ,colour & WB adjustment is does a fine job. If you don't get on with it well it doesn't matter because, as I said, its free !!

Download it from this Website

http://www.topart.com.au/test/photocontrol.htm

Keith-C
 
I like the "workflow" aspects of RAWSHOOTER, but the current version seems to apply chroma noise reduction even if all settings across the board are set to their minimum values. If I'm going to bother shooting RAW, I don't want my "developer" program eliminating options before I start. To see this in action, take a high ISO shot that shows a lot of noise and view it in RWS at 1:1. When you scroll the image around, you can see the noise until the "working wheels" stop and things pop into place. Again, even with the "color noise suppression" slider set to 0.

Also, at default settings (as shot?), the colors from RWS don't seem to be as vivid or saturated vs the defaults from Olympus Master, or even Irfanview's rendering of the .ORF files, and the "as shot" white balance isn't listed as the same. For example, I have two images that are 5800K/5300K according to Olympus Master, but RWS reports them as 5200K/4850K ???

For the price right now (free trial), it's worth a look, but the real question will be how much are they going to charge once all the kinks are worked out.
Ok, I will give in and star to learn to shoot raw. Maybe even for
beach volleyball. Is Photoshop good enough or should I get
RawShooter? I am asking here, since this is where I feelo I belong.
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I'd use ACR before rawshooter, but feel olympus studio is the "best" raw converter option right now. There is a free trial of studio so you can see for yourself..
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Stacey
 
Before CS2 I used RawShooter for its work-flow. I had some issues with RawShooter with always applying sharpening I did not want and its inability to convert to a PSD file. Photoshop CS2 Bridge and ACR 3 now my current work-flow.
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JJMack
 
I have been using RSE for a while since its inception until recently when I compared the results to PS CS2, I found the latter rendering the images to more realistic colors and closer to what I captured, this is of course before any adjustments (use as shot); since i have to use PS to enhance the pics anyway, I'm now using PS CS2 exclusively since the workflow is all integrated; I used not to like PS CS1 conversion but CS2 did finally 'convert' me (no pun intended) ...

I'll use RSE as backup for cases where I need to view different looks ...the RSE colors tend to be on the dull and greenish side as opposed to CS2's.
Cheers
 
If you can get it, I would recommend Oly Studio. It is not so good software from the workflow point of view (very slow even on fast machine...), but resulting images are the best. I have tried RSE from version 1.0 till new one 1.1.3, but mainly skin colors are very unnatural with RSE.
 
I continuously come back to ACR because of the colors, ease of layout, and overal look of the Oly images. I have installed RAW Shooter (too bland for me), SilkyPix, Paint Shop Pro, Bibble, Capture One LE (closest choice to ACR), and of course the likes of Paint Shop Pro 9, etc.

Yet each and every time (remember, Capture One LE comes very close), I wind up coming back to ACR. The colors are richer IMO and I've become quite accustomed to the layout, sliders, etc. I've used ACR with Photoshp 7.0, CS, and now CS2 - and it keeps getting better and better.

The key to purchasing photoshop is if you live near a college of university. If you know a student - and the book store has it in stock, you can usually pick up the Academic Version (same full version) for only $149.00 or so. Then you keep buying the upgrades (that's what I did - but then, I was taking some courses at the local university when I did this).

And the fact that Adobe keeps upgrading ACR is wonderful. You download it, unzip the file and then paste the RAW ACR plug-in in the plug-ins folder of Adobe...and wallaaaaaa, it's done...updated!

If you can't swing Photoshop, get the next best thing...Elements 3.0 which uses the exact same ACR plug-in (which is constantly updatable).

I'm telling you - again, as one whose tried them all and constantly experiments, Photoshop ACR just cannot be bested IMO. Sure, there are other views, but hey...I'm just weighing in here with my own opinion.

Have a great day...

 
Take a deeper look: C1 has more details (they are washed out at ACR) and more brillant overall image quality... (better algorithm)

But it´s subjective...
 

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