Bibble RAW Preview vs. Photoshop CS

I downloaded the trial version of Bibble Pro for my Mac G4 running OSX 10.3.8. Seems to work great, the interface nicer IMHO than say CSLE. The big issue I am having is with the the transition from Bibble to Photoshop CS. The on screen preview in Bibble following adjustment look awesome in terms of color and sharpness, but when I either "save as" of the image or "transfer to external viewer" & open the image in CS it looks nowhere near as crisp as it did in Bibble.

I posted a question on this in the Bibble forums OSX section, but only one of the administrators answered stating that it is probably due to differnent color management settings between the two. I've tried all I can think of the get them on the same color manage, but to no avail. Images still look way better (at least on screen) in Bibble Pro.
Anyone else exerience this type of thing either in Bibble , CS 1/LE, RSE, etc?

Thanks
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I don't know about the 'on screen' sharpness, but I found Bibble to be unsatisfactory basically because the sky rendition was totally false & nothing I seemed to do corrected for this.

I agree, that it's a tad awkward to visualise the finished result from the CS2 RAW plug in & I'm still new to this RAW 'stuff' but I'm beginning to think that it's probably best to use a set of standard settings to extract a JPEG image and use normal filters to 'fine tune' the result.

Personally, I seem to get better results doing this.
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WightWalker

I use Bibble Pro and then GIMP and have not seen this problem. The workflow used is open in Bibble, adjust exposure/white balance/curves if necessary, then save as 100% JPG (set in preferences/output along with the external viewer option set to 16 bit), then open in GIMP. The pictures when brought into GIMP look just as sharp and color correct as they did in Bibble. I really like the batch processing options that Bibble offers as well as the blown highlight recovery.

photo_mom said:

I use Bibble Pro and then GIMP and have not seen this problem. The
workflow used is open in Bibble, adjust exposure/white
balance/curves if necessary, then save as 100% JPG (set in
preferences/output along with the external viewer option set to 16
bit), then open in GIMP. The pictures when brought into GIMP look
just as sharp and color correct as they did in Bibble. I really
like the batch processing options that Bibble offers as well as the
blown highlight recovery.

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What is GIMP - I assume it's a Graphics Package, but which one.

I've been experimenting a bit more with Bibble particularly the batch process as it's useful to have a JPEG image of the file to work with with better results; can the default arrangement be set to change the Tone Curve & Sharpness base on say one image and applied to all in the batch.
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WightWalker

Here's the example of the image with sky rendition that I still cannot get right with Bibble; CS2 looks the way that I saw it.



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WightWalker

WightWalker said:

What is GIMP - I assume it's a Graphics Package, but which one.

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Gnu Image Manipulation Program (GIMP) is a freeware image editor.

See http://www.gimpguru.org for tutorials and more info including links to download the program.

WightWalker said:

I've been experimenting a bit more with Bibble particularly the
batch process as it's useful to have a JPEG image of the file to
work with with better results; can the default arrangement be set
to change the Tone Curve & Sharpness base on say one image and
applied to all in the batch.

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Yes, you can edit one image and then copy the settings and apply it to all of the images that you tag for a batch. Then again, you can edit each image and batch save them with their individual settings. It's very flexible.

WightWalker said:

Here's the example of the image with sky rendition that I still
cannot get right with Bibble; CS2 looks the way that I saw it.

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This is a previous post about the main reason I like Bibble. It's about a sky shot that I had taken that was horribly overblown.
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/read.asp?forum=1036&message=13396065

Jay Taylor said:

The on screen preview in Bibble following
adjustment look awesome in terms of color and sharpness, but when I
either "save as" of the image or "transfer to external viewer" &
open the image in CS it looks nowhere near as crisp as it did in
Bibble.

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If you could post some examples we could probably help a bit more. It could be something as simple as the fact you are saving heavily compressed jpegs.

Michael

Michael,

Not sure what you mean by posting examples because the issue was with the on screen preview of the image while in Bibble as opposed to the appearance of the on screen image in CS. Image that looked great (super sharp, good color rendition, etc.) did not appear to have the same quality viewed in CS.

Anyhow, my trial licence for BibblePro has expired so I can't really look into it anymore. I'm now trying out C1LE.

Thanks

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I've seen the same thing with Bibble, so I asked in their forum. Apparently this is a side effect of the "highlight recovery" algorithm, with which the the company is very proud.

The "cure" for such problematic shots would be to turn off "highlight recovery" in Bibble (clear Bibble's cache) and restart Bibble. (Remember to turn on the recovery thingy again if you find it does wonders for other shots

Regards
Søren